Best artist who influenced the worst music

Whiney - that video's unavailable in my country

I have never heard a good Tom Waits cover

I quite like Dion's cover of "Looking for the Heart of Saturday Night."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9fZLOqsTxM

System of a down
Serj Tankian: “I love Faith No More and Mike Patton. Patton always pushes boundaries and does something completely different.”

Slikpnot
Corey Taylor: “Mike Patton is a crazy genius. Watching him basically take the piss out of that entire audience and the fact everyone in that band had such diverse personalities that it worked, I was mesmerized. It shook my whole idea of what you can do musically”

Deftones
Chino Moreno: “The first album had a couple of good songs, but Angel Dust sounded savage to me. It sounded way more like a Mike Patton record. I feel like he had a lot more influence on it.”

ramones' "i don't wanna grow up" is the first one i thought of too.

also, the various "way down in the hole" versions used in the wire.

important to note that there are many godawful tom waits covers too (eagles, rod stewart, scarlett johansson)

It's still up for debate whether I saw Serj wandering around at the first Mr. Bungle reunion show

I think I actually like the nu-metal bands/songs best when they're influenced by Patton. System of a Down, definitely. Korn's second album sounds very much like he heard "Ugly In The Morning" and made a whole album out of that. So I concede on it - definitely a huge influence on the genre.

The Scarlett Johannsson album is one of my favorite albums of the '00s

to look at?

maybe i should also renege slightly on the Waits covers: I've never heard one I can safely say improves on the original. None of the Wire ones float my boat

Mike Patton is one of my favorite singers. Faith No More, one of my favorite bands of all time. Very inspiring to me. I fell in love with that band at a very young age, and I saw them a few times growing up. I was bummed out when they parted ways [in 1998], but they're doing shows again, which is awesome.
But as far as influence, the way that I sing, I definitely was inspired by Mike Patton, but lyrically, I approach my songs very differently than Mike Patton does. He comes from a place of a bit more sarcasm... a lot more sarcasm. Whereas I come from that heart and soul kind of place. My two favorite singers are Mike Patton and Mike Ness from Social Distortion. Total opposites, but I like the storytelling that Mike Ness does so I kind of fused both those two guys together at an early age, and it inspired me to become my own thing." - Jacoby Shaddix

ums, i didn't notice an open quote so i thought you were speaking for yourself there haha

to look at?

― voodoo chili, Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:59 PM (fifty-two seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's a bleary 4AD-style record by the TVOTR producer, the songwriting is obviously peerless, and ScarJo has an affectless post-punk delivery that everyone jizzed over when Italians Do It Better was doing the same.

voodoo I am jacoby shaddix just try to keep a low profile

trying to think of ground zero for the awful rinkydink uke/xylophone/toy piano sound that has defined music used in commercials, TV and movies for the last 15+ years, and coming back to the Mark Mothersbaugh's Wes Anderson soundtracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDYZ5CzfGg

impossible to hear that music today and not hear a voice going "think all credit monitoring apps are created equal? think again."

maybe i should also renege slightly on the Waits covers: I've never heard one I can safely say improves on the original. None of the Wire ones float my boat

I rather like Sarah McLachlan's cover of "Ol' 55", Ramones cover of "I Don't Wanna Grow Up", and Holly Cole made an entire album of jazz-trio Waits covers that most people kinda dump on but I think is vg

I wouldn't consider them one of my favorite bands or anything but Mr. Bungle influenced a lot of nu metal and Disco Volante is a pretty solid album (the others have their moments, too).

Stockhausen influenced a lot of third-rate "avant-garde" rock artists like Frank Zappa.

and ... The Beatles

Zappa might be the worst artist who influenced far better music than they made themselves (argument begins...now). Probably another thread though.

good call on the rushmore soundtrack one eye open

and ... The Beatles

― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:40

my first thought when i saw this thread

Every influential artist ever.

true.

Dylan or the Beatles. That just comes with being massively influential - it's hard NOT to influence a lot of bad music when you're that famous and celebrated.

I thought what we're focusing on here is the (negative) quality of the bad music, not the quantity...

Whoever was responsible for post-grunge.

I wonder whether post-grunge really is the most hated genre of all time or if it's just an ILX affectation.

Tom Waits was a pretty good influence on things up until the late 90s. That's almost 30 years. It started going south with Dresden Dolls, Gogol Bordello.

not sure if this is correct, but I feel like a lot of extremely tepid 90s and early 2000s music was influenced by REM

I went to Cesky Krumlov one time and spent the weekend hanging out with (among other people) the singer from a Tom Waits covers band, he was a nice guy and very funny but had also just done a load of acid and was only just about holding it together the whole time. I saw his band in Prague a few months later and they were pretty good, spoke to him afterwards and he had absolutely no memory at all of me or the weekend.

I think the problem with post-grunge is that it was still a thing until the mid 00’s so it lasted for a better part of a decade. Also, it was hard to ignore because it managed to sneak in hits into mainstream radio.

That wasn’t a problem with say, nu metal because it hardly had radio airplay (were there many crossover hits? I think Linkin Park was the closest one) and it didn’t really last for a fucking decade.

Whoever was responsible for post-grunge.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:38 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

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