Lana Del Rey - Chemtrails Over The Country Club (2021)

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I’m just here to show off the display name fgti gave me

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Sunday, 21 March 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

i agree with simon, upthread.

treeship., Sunday, 21 March 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

I think for me it's just getting to the point where it's like Arab Strap or the Ramones, like I just don't really need any more albums like this

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

This is how I'm feeling. There's nothing particularly bad about this album, but there's also nothing to really convince me this is anything more than just another Lana Del Rey album. Listening to Chemtrails at work the other day, when it ended it went straight on to NFR and just 30 seconds of that first song sounded so much more compelling than anything here. Honeymoon is the only one that took time to grow on me, everything else was really instant and I've gone back to them all a lot. I'll probably give this another chance to see if anything sticks.

kitchen person, Sunday, 21 March 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

it feels pretty distinct to me as far as her albums go, much more folk-y and atmospheric than before & her vocal approach has changed too with much more falsetto than before

ufo, Sunday, 21 March 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

First 2-3 tracks are great, maybe her best lyrics. The rest is kind of a featureless blur (though the line "I love you lots/Like polka dots" always makes me smile).

Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Sunday, 21 March 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I'm in the "this is kinda boring" camp. As background, it's unobjectionable but mostly doesn't distinguish itself. The production does achieve a consistent vibe, but it kind of flattens her melodic instincts, which really carried NFR imo.

flattens her melodic instincts

This. Her weakest since Honeymoon.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

Late with this, but...

ugh why did i think this much about a ldr thinkpiece

^^New board description?

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

was really looking forward to the djp livetweet of this record but i also couldn't survive the falsetto in "white dress"

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson),

Oof the falsetto in the chorus is the thing I liked the most on first listen. Love how thin and powerless it sounds, it’s a nice break from the usual Lana vocals. Maybe it just stand outs to me because at this point in her career every song of hers fades one into another for me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 05:50 (three years ago) link

Yeah, exactly, I love "White Dress" and specifically the way she sings the chorus (also the video makes me want to go out and cruise the sunny spring Paris streets on rollers !).

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:06 (three years ago) link

I also hope the awkwardness of fitting way too many words into a line like she does in “white dress” or Ariana Grande on “positions” becomes a trend in pop.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I think my favorite moment on this record is when she does that in the second verse of "Wild At Heart"

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link

the forced phrasing was really bugging me the other day, like "swim-MING pools" in the title track and "schoo-ellls/joo-ells" in for free

na (NA), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

the one that is driving me nuts is the "every time I said 'no' it wasn't quite what I meaned / if you know what I mean" in "Not All Who Wander", just c'mon.

Overall I'm feeling pretty middling on this, feels like a kid sibling to NFR - starts out pretty great, but much of the rest of it just feels like lesser versions of what she did more interestingly on NFR.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

Okay, I have to retract part of that, hadn't made it to the last two songs. I really like the vibe on "Dance Til We Die".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

it hadn't really occurred to me until just now how funny the phrase "The Men In Music Business Conference" is

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link

it's hilarious, one of my favorite lines on the album

akm, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

I haven't listened to this but the title is awful, so awful, I can't bear it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link

Old favourite Cherry Blossom rumoured to be on the next one; she did an IG post quoting the lyrics. I do yearn for a ‘Best of the Unreleased Tracks’ compilation with Driving In Cars.., Serial Killer, Queen of Disaster, Yes To Heaven, Pawn Shop Blues etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZuT6ltpFKI

piscesx, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

yeah it would be nice to see some of those officially released though so many of them seem like the work of a different person at this point. Driving in Cars is still one of her best pop songs.

akm, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

xp at first I thought she was saying "mini music business conference." Would be pretty funny either way

J. Sam, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

I haven't listened to this but the title is awful, so awful, I can't bear it

it's her best album title!

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

Heard it first as Meta-Music Conference (or metal?), all of which (along with "men in music") sound like a title you'd see in a dream.

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

Ok on my third listen now and this might be the first LDR album since Ultraviolence in which I love more than 2 songs in it.

I’m actually surprised how much this one works for me. I know people loved NFR but I didn’t. This one was so easy to like in comparison. For starters it’s one of her shortest albums and it’s very intimate sounding. I love the vibes going on and how the instruments mostly provide ambience, waiting for the vocal hooks. I guess fans of her more “maximalist” side might find it boring.

Love these: White Dress, Yosemite, Dark but Just a Game.

Like these: Chemtrails, Dance till We Die, Tulsa Jesus Freak

Bored by these, haven’t really won me over: let me love you like a woman, wild at heart

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 25 March 2021 06:07 (three years ago) link

Thoughts on the alternate cover (HMV exclusive vinyl)?

https://images.genius.com/9cdfa2ba25187376f756075ce635817d.644x644x1.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:48 (three years ago) link

wow, the original cover looks like a friggin masterpiece now

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 March 2021 12:04 (three years ago) link

it's bad but in a completely different way to the regular cover

ufo, Thursday, 25 March 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link

At this point there's only one song on the album that I don't like : "Breaking up Slowly" (it's funny because at first I thought it was a duet with Stevie which would have been a nice concept since in the following song she mentions her as well as Joni who she covers on the final song !).
The highlights imo are the first 3 and "Dark But Just A Game" which low end during the verses sounds HUGE on good headphones/hifi. One of my favorite moments of the album.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 25 March 2021 12:12 (three years ago) link

I like the cover of the album.It's certainly not worse than all her previous covers !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 25 March 2021 12:15 (three years ago) link

yeah "breaking up slowly" is just kinda melodically trite

ufo, Thursday, 25 March 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link

I don’t find any of her album covers particularly offensive but they’re not great either. It has always seemed weird to me how clear her aesthetic in terms of sound is yet it isn’t quite mirrored in her artwork and music videos.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

Yeah she's got the worst sleeves of a big act since Oasis.

piscesx, Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

NFR! is the only one I find actively repellent. I like the Lust for Life cover a lot.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

I like all her album covers except for Born To Die and Paradise, even when I don't like the albums (e.g. Lust For Life). The Honeymoon cover is great, and I liked the NFR cover even more once I realized the background was a painting (which of course it is).

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

She has stated that she regards album art as a complete afterthought and for single releases would just use whatever picture she found on her phone. The alternate NFR cover with her friends sitting in a park with godawful fonts is a good example. I wish she had a better aesthetic sense for these things; I really only like the covers of BTD, UV (the original B&W cover, not the alternate cover of her knee which I assume was another iphone shot), and the alternate Honeymoon.

DArk But Just A Game is one of my favorite songs on here too, it's recorded really well, the guitar tone is really nice, and opening up the soundstage with the bridge was a great touch. Arrangement-wise it reminds me of the White Album or something.

akm, Thursday, 25 March 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

Arrangement-wise it reminds me of the White Album or something.

hum. Interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way but now I can totally hear that !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 26 March 2021 11:16 (three years ago) link

I have to admit the bad cover art might be part of why her music gives me weird nostalgia for the 90s cd era.

Chris L, Friday, 26 March 2021 13:00 (three years ago) link

it's weird that she doesn't care about the album artwork when she seems to care very much about the visuals for her videos etc

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 13:01 (three years ago) link

alternate cover looks like she shot out just out of frame of this

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LNX-E07tXM8/maxresdefault.jpg

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 26 March 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link

*shot it

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 26 March 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link

Arrangement-wise it reminds me of the White Album or something.

Been thinking about how classic the arrangements are: Beatles, 3rd-album Velvets, "White Dress" gives me Laura Nyro vibes kinda. Maybe I don't get out enough but it feels kind of surprising in 2021?

Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Sunday, 28 March 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

I don't know, I think it's pretty in tune with 2021. Jack Antonoff just won album of the year with Taylor Swift, and the sonic palette is partly him.

“it's weird that she doesn't care about the album artwork when she seems to care very much about the visuals for her videos etc” true and I don’t k ow how truthful that statement was but it seeems to explain some of the tossed off nature of some of them.

Also important to note that there were videos she made (like video games) and videos that I’m sure were 100% other peoples ideas (like Born to Die). The video for Chemtrails is interesting because it seems like the former style until near the end when it turns into a vampire video out of the blue (and even that owes something to Bat for Lashes)

akm, Sunday, 28 March 2021 06:12 (three years ago) link

xp yeah listening again a lot of the arrangement is of a piece with the Taylor albums, what's interesting to me are the aesthetic choices that don't fit (Beatles outro in "Dark But Just a Game", VU guitar in "Not All That Wander Are Lost", I swear there's Nyro in "White Dress" but I don't hear it every time)

Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Monday, 29 March 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link

Tonight at a small country bar in South Austin, we saw @nikkilanemusic. She brought Ms. @LanaDelRey out to duet "Breaking Up Slowly" and then Nikki covered @rosannecash "Seven Year Ache." For our 1st live show in 13 months, it was a transcendent one-two punch of joy. pic.twitter.com/5GYojQDkAB

— MattShiv (@shivvy) April 5, 2021

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Monday, 5 April 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

no surprise that she changed the title for it but given her history i doubt this will make that release date

ufo, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 08:17 (two years ago) link

oh reading up on it and people think this might be a separate project to rock candy sweet bc she mentioned having two more albums in the work not too long ago (one possibly a country covers album?)

ufo, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 08:22 (two years ago) link

If that font is not already on bistro menus everywhere, it will be.

peace, man, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 09:39 (two years ago) link

truly, the stans will eat what they're given

imago, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 12:57 (two years ago) link

From "Arcadia":

I'm not from the land of the palms, so I know I can't stay here
I'm not native, but
My curves, San Gabriel all day
And my lips like the fire licks the bay

It strikes the listener that palm trees also aren't native to Southern California (except one variety) – instead, they were mostly planted for symbolic reasons, and to lure visitors and new residents. So the couplet sets up this inherent irony: calling SoCal the "land of the palms" (not a common phrase), and then declaring "I know I can't stay here." Plenty of other folks move to L.A., but many put down roots and stay (you know, like palm trees). It's a fascinating (and I think intentional) contradiction, in a song where Lana presents her own body as so deeply ingrained with the local landscape that it's a kind of living figuration of it (literally, "a map of L.A.") – but then she skips town at the end, because ppl got mad at her Instagram posts or whatever.

Day 1 fan (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 04:33 (ten months ago) link


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