Which is the worst state in the United States of America

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Full disclosure we were also big fans of Dubtribe Soundsystem back then.

Do It Then

Ha thank you! I wanted to pull some meta zing out of that but I just didn't have it in me.

(For what it's worth, Earthtone Soundsystem was nowhere near as trendy/cultish as Dubtribe. All of them that I met were genuinely cool people, much like Cloudfactory in the SF Bay Area for example.)

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 22 March 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link

Regarding Oregon, it's not just the historic white supremacy. As was briefly mentioned upthread the demographics continue to be quite monochrome compared to most of the South etc. According to the US Census, Oregon is 87% white, 2% Black; Mississippi is 59% white and 38% Black. (It is best to only capitalize "Black", not "white"; or to capitalize both? Genuine style question, no troll.)

So yes on average OR is light years more progressive than MS. But I would guess that even in Oregon on average there is more support for Republicans among whites than among Blacks in Mississippi. Maybe I'm wrong.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 22 March 2021 11:10 (three years ago) link

why is delaware so high up on this? the tax haven thing? it seems innocuous.

treeship., Monday, 22 March 2021 11:12 (three years ago) link

in oregon (along w/ louisiana) you could be convicted of a crime if 10 people on a jury said guilty and 2 said not guilty until the u.s. supreme court outlawed it last year

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 22 March 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link

Oregon is 87% white, 2% Black

There's a reason why the Proud Boys et al. are always marching in Portland and not, like, here.

Kentucky is a tough one. They do have two asshole senators, but they have a democratic governor, and there is tons of cool shit in the state, from the bourbon trail to the Muhammed Ali Center to Mammoth Cave to lots of good music. Plus, the state is really pretty. Also, centrally located, and not too big.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 March 2021 12:52 (three years ago) link

tipsy to thread!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 March 2021 13:10 (three years ago) link

(It is best to only capitalize "Black", not "white"; or to capitalize both? Genuine style question, no troll.)

I'm curious what the thinking is on this as well. lowercase white vs uppercase Black might on some level support the implication that whiteness is "default"

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 22 March 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link

unsurprisingly it seems like a no win situation the more you think about it

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 22 March 2021 13:20 (three years ago) link

Here you go:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/05/insider/capitalized-black.html

pomenitul, Monday, 22 March 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link

I noticed just the other day that the New Yorker capitalizes "Black," which maybe they've done for years? No idea what they do with "white."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 March 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link

about what I figured. not really a satisfying answer but that's the nature of style (and change in progress). xp

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 22 March 2021 13:26 (three years ago) link

the New Yorker capitalizes "Black," which maybe they've done for years?

I believe "everyone" (meaning "the media") started capitalizing Black more or less in the last 12 months. I know that's when I started doing it in my own writing, for Stereogum (and in my upcoming book).

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 22 March 2021 13:28 (three years ago) link

I miss Atlanta so much :(

eisimpleir (crüt), Monday, 22 March 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link

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Here's the revised AP style guide on "Black" etc (it's dated from July 2020 but I saw a Guardian article from June, referencing the AP decision to capitalize Black):

https://apnews.com/article/9105661462

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 22 March 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

Atl is a legit great city. And if you don’t have to be in the car much its ranking goes way up imo. The urban canopy really is remarkable.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, 22 March 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

For sure, the predominant car culture is main issue there. But within the city limits at least it looks like they're doing their best to move away from that.

(I was without a car for a few days there taking care of some business, and I have to say it's quite cool how there are little public shuttle buses that go all over the place and which seem to have sliding scale payment. Of course MUNI in SF is also sliding scale if you know how to avoid the driver's eyes as you slip in the back door. I would never!)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 22 March 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

*main issue I have

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 22 March 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

*the

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 22 March 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link

Gonna go against the grain here and say I found Atlanta to be pretty depressing and grey

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:47 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Apparently it's Alabama, but even that is better than DC:

https://today.yougov.com/topics/travel/articles-reports/2021/04/13/us-states-ranked-best-worst-according-americans

Alba, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:53 (three years ago) link

if you look at the Bloomberg Vaccine Tracker, Alabama is the only state with a mega light-green shade.

why am i not shocked.

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 April 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link

Jersey tied with Iowa and Arkansas.

Been trying to think up what trouble those three states could get into together, with no luck.

pplains, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

I reckon TX has this now

Josefa, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

otm

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

Certainly top contender for worst state that has the most awesome things in it ruined by the shittiness.

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link

Nov, 2022 is when we're hopefully going to get rid of Abbott. If Texas doesn't do something about the bastard I'm going to have to move. Fuck this shit.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link

If you lose Abbott, you're only going to get somebody worse because he was primaried.

pplains, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link


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