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This is pretty freaky:
https://www.ft.com/content/2542af81-9e93-4d05-a0b9-26c0f6aab6f3

Apparently you can just amass positions equivalent to 5 or 10% of a company's stock via swaps and never report it? And major investment banks are fine with giving you tons of leverage to do it, until it blows up and a single hedge fund's implosion causes 30% drops in multiple large stocks?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Stock market is totally having a normal one right now

What the hell? https://t.co/92RWejK16A pic.twitter.com/hgzLMhrpN4

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) April 15, 2021

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

there is something very weird going on with that one that is probably not at all indicative of the wider market. I don't know if it is a form of money laundering or what, but I can't imagine it's a bunch of retail investors running up the price. It trades less than 400 shares per day.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

lol this is one of my favorite stock descriptions ever

Hometown International, Inc., through its subsidiary, Your Hometown Deli Limited Liability Company, operates a delicatessen store under the Your Hometown Deli brand name in the United States. Its Your Hometown Deli store provides sandwiches; soups; salads, including made-to-order green salads, prepared pasta, potato, chicken, and various wet salads; deli meats/cheeses; hot/cold drinks; fresh breads/rolls; breakfast products, such as pastries, bagels, and toast; yogurt; and small retail items for cooking, baking, and home use, as well as coffee, tea, and other hot and cold beverages. The company was incorporated in 2014 and is based in Woodstown, New Jersey.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link

Please do not think for one minute this reflects badly on the security of those stock mutual funds in your 401K. Pretty please. With sugar on top.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

sounds like a mafia front posing as a public company

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link

xp, Oh certainly not -- but there are dozens of SPACs that are like 60% as ridiculous as that. I think the point is more that there isn't a lot of evidence of oversight.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

What do you guys think of something like VIAC, which had it price destroyed to one hedge fund dumping it?
The business hasn't really changed much, meaning it's seriously undervalued right now or it's still pumped too high due to current market exuberance. Still higher than it was in Jan/Feb '20. The company has remained profitable regardless.

Nhex, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link

FWIW, I just listened to this: https://open.spotify.com/show/1te7oSFyRVekxMBJUSethH?si=sbeWrWYnR4iZo_apx0LkUw which was v interesting on greensill, credit suisse, and archegos among other things, and the guy made a pretty good case for VIAC being a slowly dying business.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

There are usually a lot of profits to be squeezed from a slowly dying business. Look at what vulture capitalists are doing to the newspaper industry. The question is whether those remaining profits can translate into a higher share price. Probably not.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

link between price and profits seems a lot more tenuous these days anyway, so it's about a good a dice roll as a lot of other things.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

How to get rich in 3 easy steps:
1) Steal hotel soap
2) Invest savings in S&P
3) Become millionaire pic.twitter.com/GSQBsopb6z

— TikTok Investors (@TikTokInvestors) May 17, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link

very good account

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

oh, fintok.

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

it did turn out that GME was a safehaven stock.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link

I got out on AMC months ago... if I illogically held, I would've quadrupled+ my money! Too late to get back in now.

Nhex, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22465198/amc-meme-stock-popcorn-wsb

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22555337/E24_NrSWYAAhODE.jpg

The thing that interests me about the meme stocks (so far) is that they are companies in a consumer-friendly line of business. Yes there's speculative mania or whatever but why shouldn't individual investors with money to splash around go long on video game retailers, movie theaters, and a fairly stable big box survivor? Why not get people to bet in favor of like, normal companies that sell normal products that people like to normal people? Nobody's gonna meme Exxon.

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link

BB is kind of a weird one (maybe it's the ticker), but the rest were way shorted. BBBY ran last time to almost $60 that one friday in Jan. It's all the same tickers again.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

what a time 2 b alive pic.twitter.com/UxIa5lIv7Q

— Liz Franczak (@liz_franczak) June 2, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Just the voice of uneducated, frustrated disgust: if the stock market managed a baseball team, they'd pinch-hit for Mike Trout in the 4th inning because he grounded out in the 2nd.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

("Uneducated" as in illiterate about monetary matters.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

Oof, those meme stocks a few posts up, then vs. now. ^^

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Everything I hate about the stock market summed up in a single headline on CNN today: "Stocks tumble after better-than-expected jobs report."

I understand the dynamic: more jobs = inflation = stocks tumble. It's still intuitively bizarre.

clemenza, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

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