Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

we are just so fucked in this country when it comes to guns

good guy with a gun gets killed himself in this one too

the good guys with guns need better guns iirc

‘No way to prevent this, etc.’

I hear more libs are buying firearms these days, so it’s only a matter of time before the issue solves itself through sheer cosmic balance.

we buy love guns

Sigh. It just feels so goddamn hopeless.

Goddamn

It's quite intense to visit the paper of record online and discover that THERE WAS YET ANOTHER FRICKIN' ARMED SLAUGHTER that you had no idea about until that moment

"See a partial list of shootings with multiple victims in 2021."

Because these are so fucking commonplace that listing them all would be too much.

yeah, this line in the CNN article kind of illustrates the severity of the problem unintentionally:

Police were called to the facility at about 11 p.m. local time for what has become the country's deadliest shooting since 10 people were killed March 22 at a grocery in Colorado.

Oooof

I’m not sure that was unintentional after watching CNN’s morning coverage

yeah first thing my wife said to me in the morning was "there was a shooting in Indiana" and I was racking my brain trying to think if she had just heard about one of the recent ones

i guess one benefit of working from home is less risk of getting shot at place of employment. we had a legit threat at one of our offices years ago, and my office was the type that you wouldn't easily escape from in those situations.

i think we had a lockdown once for a few hours due to a gunman in the area but it never panned out.

we had a very disturbed guy in my office who more than once made specific angry threats about how he was going to do it, who he was going to go after, what he was going to use, etc. he lived around the corner from the office and had tons of guns at his house, once got caught with a huge hunting knife hidden in his desk. management never did anything but the fbi caught up with him eventually and he wound up behind bars for outside-the-workplace stuff. it was an exciting couple years in the office though, showing up to work every day thinking "is today the day he decides to do it?"

jeezus yall

wtaf?

'Murica.

yeah we fired a guy a while ago who apparently wound up having a hit list in his desk. I know a few people were legitimately disturbed by it, like "how did I wind up on that, I barely talked to the guy" but mostly it was treated like kind of a joke. in retrospect...gorsh

sorry if i got too dark. its just every time one of these happens i always think about my office and if it had happened there, how it would have been described with the same banal boilerplate phrases in every one of these stories: "searching for a motive", "believed to be an employee", etc.

I worked with a guy who left a job a month before one of his coworkers shot the place up; I feel in some ways at this point in our stupid history it's strange to NOT know someone who has experienced this (including yourself).

I've worked with multiple angry dudes who kept assault rifles in the trunks of their cars. Really don't miss sharing an office with psychotic gun nuts.

Yeah I had a similar experience at my first job. Nutty firmware guy claimed he had guns in his car. Ended up getting fired after he told me he was erasing all his code because he was mad about something. We had cops guarding the building for a few months.

would be a neat trick to successfully erase all one's code in any contemporary dev shop

Looks as though that Knoxville shooting was actually the cop shooting himself and then killing the kid. They are refusing to release body cam footage.

Was just reading an article about that, though still not sure I understand the timeline. The working theory being the cop shot himself first (to provide cover or a "reason" for what happened next?) then shot the kid?

my understanding was there was a scuffle with the kid, the cop's gun went off wounding him, and then he shot the kid. No idea if the shooting was as cover or thinking that the kid had fired the shot or something else.

Oh okay, the one article I saw initially said the kid's gun went off during the scuffle, but that wasn't the bullet that hit the cop - which is why I was confused about the timeline. That makes more sense.

Disarm the police.

The Knoxville story as we know it for now is summed up in this update from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation: https://tbinewsroom.com/2021/04/12/tbi-agents-investigating-knoxville-officer-involved-shooting/

Things that are clear from it: The kid had a gun, which "was fired" in the course of a struggle. The bullet from that gun did not hit the officer. The kid was then hit by one or more bullets. The officer was hit by a bullet not fired by the kid.

Things that are not clear: How was the kid's gun actually discharged? Did the bullet from the kid's gun hit the kid, or did it just go somewhere else? Did the officer shoot himself or was he shot by the other cop? How many bullets actually hit the kid? And, really to me the biggest question, why did the officers go barging into the bathroom after him? If they had him trapped in there, they had already neutralized any threat he posed to other people in the school. It's hard to see how they didn't have other options at that point. And I don't think any explanation of that decision is ever going to satisfy a lot of people in the community.

Our city is pretty fucked up over this whole thing. It's going to be ugly for a while.

Not a spree shooting, but it was nonetheless unsettling to be following the Indianapolis news and get a call from my mother in law who was out for her first post COVID shopping trip with a friend, only to get caught in a lockdown at a mall in Ann Arbor with what was originally reported as an active shooter situation. Thankfully she is out safe.

Officers are investigating a report of shots fired at @Briarwood mall. At this time there IS NOT an active shooter and we ask people to avoid the area of the mall while the investigation is in progress.

— Ann Arbor Police (@A2Police) April 16, 2021

America, 2021. Fucking hell.

My wife was asked to come in early to work today, but as she was getting ready to go, she got a call to hold off. Apparently there is an active shooter at the Starbucks at the shopping center where she works. At least 3 people shot. Her coworkers are all stuck sheltering in the back of their store right now.

Jesus. This won’t end until every American has had an encounter with a mass shooting.

Nope. This is in a fairly nice, quiet area, right by my local Trader Joe's. Don't know what the story is yet, but doesn't sound good.

jesus that's scary. glad your wife hadn't left yet when this happened.

Three dead in Austin, Texas:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dead-active-shooting-incident-texas/story?id=77151159

Three dead in Kenosha, Wisconsin

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/18/3-dead-2-injured-in-kenosha-wisconsin-shooting/7276067002/

covid's been a monstrous shitty nightmare, but the temporary reprieve from this type of monstrous shitty nightmare was kind of refreshing. back to normal i guess.

glad your wife is okay, moodles, and so sorry this came so close.

One dead in Omaha, Nebraska:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/17/us/omaha-mall-shooting/index.html

jfc they're really making up for lost time aren't they

Was the reprieve just in coverage though? xps

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/04/16/more-than-one-mass-shooting-per-day-has-occurred-in-2021/?sh=7c3329ec6493

The U.S. was wracked by a record high 610 mass shootings in 2020, the most of any year since the organization began tracking the number in 2014.

well. fuck.

They still haven't caught the guy in Austin, sounds like it was more of a domestic incident and did not actually appear at the shopping center. Her coworkers were finally allowed to leave the stock room and go home about 1 1/2 hours ago.

How did we have more mass shootings in 2020 during the pandemic?

I was wondering the same thing. I thought they were really low and recently spiked again.

I think they did go down during the worst months, but there were a ton early last year before the pandemic, and then some in the fall too.

I take that back, the summer was the worst. It is part of the overall crime increases that a lot of cities saw — a lot of mass shooting don't register to us as "mass shootings" because they're part of criminal enterprises rather than random events.

It’s being reported that the Austin shooter was a former cop.

RIP :(