Oscars 2021

oof that's an upset! Hopkins not even there!?

not there, thanks, goodnight, the end.

lol

Glen Close dropping knowledge about da butt was the highlight of the show, fuiud

they ended it with actress and actor just because they thought boseman was a lock. good moment nonetheless.

So...Boseman doesn't get the tribute he deserves, Hopkins doesn't get the kudos that courtesy demands, and the ceremony just wilts

pitiful. apparently steven soderbergh was the mastermind behind this.

thought the surprises in best actress and best actor at the end were worth hsnging around for though. and Frances McDormands' howl. don't remember a year like this

boseman is dead, hopkins wasn't interested in attending, and the voters voted. having it last was a mistake but otherwise what are you gonna do.

i think soderbergh made a valiant attempt to sort of human scale the ceremony and i certainly didn't miss the endless clips, prerecorded bits, comedians, and song performances. i think he wanted to make it about people talking about movies, and have the presenters be in dialog with the nominees in some capacity. i'm not going to tell you it worked but at the same time this show is subjected to withering criticism every single year and i don't have the slightest idea what people actually want it to be.

idk the specific reasons Hopkins chose not to attend but an 83y/o choosing not to attend a 4hr indoor event with hundreds of maskless attendees & crew is not unreasonable imo. Not his fault he actually won.

he's vaccinated and traveling the world; currently visiting his childhood home in wales

Those introductions from Laura Dern to the supporting actors!

no clips

The reasoning of "weird year, we all related to movies differently, let's tell you how moviemakers relate to movies with actual personal anecdotes" was a good move. it is a weird year! (TWO years!) clips rarely tell you jack shit and are especially selected by a tone-deaf Oscar computer that's been left on too long!

Oscar trivia game was a GREAT idea, terribly executed (except for Close) (#justice4DaButt)

Yeah I don’t see how this was a debacle. No songs, no pointless bullshit, only one brief comedy bit, felt very lean and mean to me, wouldn’t mind if it was like this every year.

xp cad otm

I don't have a problem with Hopkins winning tbh; it was an unusually strong category, with Oldman the only bleh nominee.

Milking Boseman for ratings, though.

Shoulda nominated Delroy.

as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag. missed the jokes, song performances and *especially* the movie clips badly. way too much talking. terribly solemn and boring.

glad they jettisoned the songs but I missed the movie clips, they are like catnip to me

I only watched the second half but I thought it was decent. The lines they gave the presenters were the best ever. I'm generally fine with the songs but it's OK to go without for a year. "No montages" should be the standard from now on.

i just watched minari instead, which was good but lacked some resonance and depth i thought. but still well written/directed/acted!

I see from reports that all of the songs were shown before the main show started.

as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag. missed the jokes, song performances and *especially* the movie clips badly.

I do NOT watch movies and have no interest in them. I am INFURIATED that I have not seen ten 19-second excerpts of some movies from last year, and have no way of doing so.

way too much talking. terribly solemn and boring.

It absolutely sucks that this year's ceremony did not involve ramming thousands of people shoulder-to-shoulder, having strangers hug each other, and making people sing directly into each other's faces. I have not watched and TV or read any news since last year's Oscars.

(I do think the songs should have been in as pre-records.)

I have not watched the majority of these movies but I’m shocked to have learned the Oscars messed up this year!

just wanted to know how mad I should be about best original screenplay...it worked! I'm mad

Didn't watch, but apparently Adam Schlesinger was skipped over in the memorial? Writing songs for movies with even a big part of his thing. I mean, he's a former Oscar nominee!

Also apparently missing, Monte Hellman, Stuart Gordon, Jessica Walters ...

Pretty sure he would've enjoyed the snub but nevertheless, a good place to start: Stuart Gordon, the motherfuckin' man - FARINA'D!!! pic.twitter.com/kyEZMZIYQn

— Chris Cabin (@Crabin) April 26, 2021

I only watched for hour or so of this yesterday, but it definitely felt like the most boring oscars I've watched. I don't think I fully realized how important having clips was for me. I liked the opening credits.

I usually watch but I know basically none of the movies that were nominated this year so we tuned into a random 15 minutes in the middle during some technical award and it was so weird and awkward and the nominees clearly hated having a camera jammed in their faces and dealing with the presenter's overly-familiar banter. It was all too ramshackle and post-apocalyptic for me. I'll take gross + gaudy Oscar pomp over whatever that was any year.

maybe it's because i was only paying half attention, but the presenter spiels dragged and dragged, making the actual awarding of the oscar a weird anticlimax.

*making it hard to remember what category they were even presenting and making etc.

Maybe Soderbergh's ultimate end goal here was to make us all WANT a typical, gaudy, tasteless, embarrassing, old-school, hosted Oscarcast.

as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag

No judgment but I find the concept of not watching movies but watching the Oscars incredibly weird! It would be like somebody not watching football but watching the NFL draft show.

didn't watch but it seems like we learned more about soderbergh than we did about the year in movies

(Then again, I don't watch many movies OR watch the Oscars but here I am reading and indeed posting in the Oscars thread on ILX, so what does that tell you?)

maybe i'm more of an 'oscar head' than most but i have to say that i did not find it hard to remember which awards were being presented during the brief 50-60 second period that the nominees were being listed

xxp more like not watching football but watching the pro bowl

anyway, i thought The Rider was one of the best films I've ever seen so even though i still haven't gotten to nomadland I'm happy for Zhao.

xp But that's different, even football fans don't care about the Pro Bowl

mmmmm you may be getting my point

my mom cares about the oscars. though, thanks to plex, this year she actually saw most of the movies beforehand and was excited to have a rooting interest

maybe i'm more of an 'oscar head' than most but i have to say that i did not find it hard to remember which awards were being presented during the brief 50-60 second period that the nominees were being listed

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, April 26, 2021 10:33 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

many of the pre-award spiels were a lot longer than that but yeah i was paying half-attention, and breaking the presenter banter-montage-award progression that i've been conditioned to expect threw me off

I don't have a problem with Nomadland, Zhao, Hopkins, or Youn Yuh-jung's wins tbh. That's a respectable, un-embarrassing roster.

Yuh-jung was, like the entire Minari cast, exquisite.

I don't think I have a problem with any of the top 6 with the obvious caveat that Nomadland didn't work on me. I am perfectly happy that Frances McDormand has joined the three acting Oscars club.

Also, the only best picture nominee that got scotched was Chicago 7, which, great!

so, I haven't actually seen Ma Rainey's Black Bottom yet, is it actually an injustice that Boseman didn't win this or did people just want him to win another posthumous oscar?

No injustice. Boseman, Hopkins and Ahmed were all phenomenal this year.