he's vaccinated and traveling the world; currently visiting his childhood home in wales
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link
Those introductions from Laura Dern to the supporting actors!
no clips
The reasoning of "weird year, we all related to movies differently, let's tell you how moviemakers relate to movies with actual personal anecdotes" was a good move. it is a weird year! (TWO years!) clips rarely tell you jack shit and are especially selected by a tone-deaf Oscar computer that's been left on too long!
Oscar trivia game was a GREAT idea, terribly executed (except for Close) (#justice4DaButt)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link
Yeah I don’t see how this was a debacle. No songs, no pointless bullshit, only one brief comedy bit, felt very lean and mean to me, wouldn’t mind if it was like this every year.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:48 (three years ago) link
xp cad otm
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:48 (three years ago) link
I don't have a problem with Hopkins winning tbh; it was an unusually strong category, with Oldman the only bleh nominee.
Milking Boseman for ratings, though.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link
Shoulda nominated Delroy.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:50 (three years ago) link
as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag. missed the jokes, song performances and *especially* the movie clips badly. way too much talking. terribly solemn and boring.
― alpine static, Monday, 26 April 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link
glad they jettisoned the songs but I missed the movie clips, they are like catnip to me
― Dan S, Monday, 26 April 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link
I only watched the second half but I thought it was decent. The lines they gave the presenters were the best ever. I'm generally fine with the songs but it's OK to go without for a year. "No montages" should be the standard from now on.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 26 April 2021 04:06 (three years ago) link
i just watched minari instead, which was good but lacked some resonance and depth i thought. but still well written/directed/acted!
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 April 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link
I see from reports that all of the songs were shown before the main show started.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 26 April 2021 05:59 (three years ago) link
as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag. missed the jokes, song performances and *especially* the movie clips badly.
I do NOT watch movies and have no interest in them. I am INFURIATED that I have not seen ten 19-second excerpts of some movies from last year, and have no way of doing so.
way too much talking. terribly solemn and boring.
It absolutely sucks that this year's ceremony did not involve ramming thousands of people shoulder-to-shoulder, having strangers hug each other, and making people sing directly into each other's faces. I have not watched and TV or read any news since last year's Oscars.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 26 April 2021 06:33 (three years ago) link
(I do think the songs should have been in as pre-records.)
I have not watched the majority of these movies but I’m shocked to have learned the Oscars messed up this year!
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 26 April 2021 07:51 (three years ago) link
just wanted to know how mad I should be about best original screenplay...it worked! I'm mad
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 12:15 (three years ago) link
Didn't watch, but apparently Adam Schlesinger was skipped over in the memorial? Writing songs for movies with even a big part of his thing. I mean, he's a former Oscar nominee!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 13:00 (three years ago) link
Also apparently missing, Monte Hellman, Stuart Gordon, Jessica Walters ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure he would've enjoyed the snub but nevertheless, a good place to start: Stuart Gordon, the motherfuckin' man - FARINA'D!!! pic.twitter.com/kyEZMZIYQn— Chris Cabin (@Crabin) April 26, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 13:08 (three years ago) link
I only watched for hour or so of this yesterday, but it definitely felt like the most boring oscars I've watched. I don't think I fully realized how important having clips was for me. I liked the opening credits.
― silverfish, Monday, 26 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link
I usually watch but I know basically none of the movies that were nominated this year so we tuned into a random 15 minutes in the middle during some technical award and it was so weird and awkward and the nominees clearly hated having a camera jammed in their faces and dealing with the presenter's overly-familiar banter. It was all too ramshackle and post-apocalyptic for me. I'll take gross + gaudy Oscar pomp over whatever that was any year.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 April 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link
maybe it's because i was only paying half attention, but the presenter spiels dragged and dragged, making the actual awarding of the oscar a weird anticlimax.
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 April 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link
*making it hard to remember what category they were even presenting and making etc.
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 April 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
Maybe Soderbergh's ultimate end goal here was to make us all WANT a typical, gaudy, tasteless, embarrassing, old-school, hosted Oscarcast.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
as a casual Oscar watcher (i see almost no movies and don't care who wins, etc.) this show was a major drag
No judgment but I find the concept of not watching movies but watching the Oscars incredibly weird! It would be like somebody not watching football but watching the NFL draft show.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:17 (three years ago) link
didn't watch but it seems like we learned more about soderbergh than we did about the year in movies
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link
(Then again, I don't watch many movies OR watch the Oscars but here I am reading and indeed posting in the Oscars thread on ILX, so what does that tell you?)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link
maybe i'm more of an 'oscar head' than most but i have to say that i did not find it hard to remember which awards were being presented during the brief 50-60 second period that the nominees were being listed
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
xxp more like not watching football but watching the pro bowl
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link
anyway, i thought The Rider was one of the best films I've ever seen so even though i still haven't gotten to nomadland I'm happy for Zhao.
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
xp But that's different, even football fans don't care about the Pro Bowl
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link
mmmmm you may be getting my point
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link
my mom cares about the oscars. though, thanks to plex, this year she actually saw most of the movies beforehand and was excited to have a rooting interest
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, April 26, 2021 10:33 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
many of the pre-award spiels were a lot longer than that but yeah i was paying half-attention, and breaking the presenter banter-montage-award progression that i've been conditioned to expect threw me off
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link
I don't have a problem with Nomadland, Zhao, Hopkins, or Youn Yuh-jung's wins tbh. That's a respectable, un-embarrassing roster.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
Yuh-jung was, like the entire Minari cast, exquisite.
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 April 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
I don't think I have a problem with any of the top 6 with the obvious caveat that Nomadland didn't work on me. I am perfectly happy that Frances McDormand has joined the three acting Oscars club.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link
Also, the only best picture nominee that got scotched was Chicago 7, which, great!
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link
so, I haven't actually seen Ma Rainey's Black Bottom yet, is it actually an injustice that Boseman didn't win this or did people just want him to win another posthumous oscar?
― akm, Monday, 26 April 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
No injustice. Boseman, Hopkins and Ahmed were all phenomenal this year.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link
The last five best picture winners were:
SpotlightThe Shape of WaterGreen BookParasiteNomadland
The AMPAS is officially a schizophrenic organization.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link
Ope, sorry, Moonlight not Spotlight. Even more schizo.
Meanwhile, this one continues her descent down the J3ffr3y W3lls slide of anti-wokeness...
https://www.awardsdaily.com/2021/04/26/the-state-of-the-race-the-more-things-change-the-more-they-stay-the-same/
Tyler Perry’s speech was a plea for unity – the kind Joe Biden should be making and never has wherein he asks us not to hate each other – not to hate people for skin color, not to hate cops because they are cops – to meet him in the middle. It was powerful and memorable and exactly what this country, and this industry, needs....The Academy was somehow making their whole show about appealing to the black community
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The Academy was somehow making their whole show about appealing to the black community
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
Every nominee in Best Actor was good to great except Oldman. The Best Actress category equally solid.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
Golden Derby's post-mortem:
On paper, it looked like it was Boseman’s to lose. The late star had won the Golden Globe, Critics Choice and Screen Actors Guild Award, losing just the BAFTA to Hopkins. Many had dismissed the BAFTA result as a home-field advantage win for Hopkins, who was probably sleeping like a baby in his native Wales when he won the Oscar, which I had cautioned against doing. The fact of the matter is, Hopkins’ tremendous, GOAT-level performance connected with a lot of people. Do a quick search on Twitter (well, wade past all the Oscar reactions) and you’ll see nothing but praise for Hopkins. Many of the anonymous Oscar ballots from the past week featured voters stating how much they were floored by Hopkins’ performance and that they voted for him. And lest we forget, Hopkins, now the oldest acting winner ever at 83, received all-time raves for his turn after “The Father” premiered at Sundance in January 2020, which admittedly is a lifetime ago, and was the early frontrunner almost all of 2020 until Boseman came along.
https://www.goldderby.com/article/2021/anthony-hopkins-2021-oscars-win-how-beat-chadwick-boseman/
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link
Hopkins winning isn't really that much of a head-scratcher. Posthumous awards are actually generally pretty rare unless they're cloaked in as much mystique (and box-office) as Ledger's.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link
plus Boseman already has a posthumous oscar. I don't know why there was an assumption that he deserves a second one when up against equally great performances (I'm guessing, given that I didn't in fact see either Hopkins or Boseman's performances).
― akm, Monday, 26 April 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link
He did not have an Oscar going into last night. He had a Golden Globe, tho.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link
oh, fuck for some reason I thought he was given one for black panther. Maybe I am Anthony Hopkins in the Father.
― akm, Monday, 26 April 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
The only posthumous wins: Ledger and Peter Finch's. Even goddamn Spencer Tracy lost in 1967. James Dean lost two posthumous performances.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
Even Peter Finch's win it feels must've in part been attributable to the Academy not quite being able to stomach handing Sylvester Stallone an acting Oscar.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 26 April 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link