Meanwhile at Rivendell, Glorfindel spits his drink out
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link
Our new episode next week but another Spouter-Inn episode on Tolkien with my cohost Oriana so check it out!
But we're not totally done talking Tolkien! Oriana Schwindt (@Schwindter) from Tolkien podcast @BytheBywater joins us for a bonus episode, where we discuss rivers, stars, and, OK, a little bit more about Tom Bombadil.Listen at https://t.co/64cg3Yo00f— The Spouter-Inn (@TheSpouter) April 30, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
Christine Kelley at Eruditorum Press (Elizabeth Sandifer's mob) has a psychogeography of Middle Earth going on as well, not as far as I can tell linked itt yet: https://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/category/nowhere-and-back-again
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
Oh that looks good!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link
Just reread the bit in Sam and Frodo's initial scouting of Gorgoroth where the diminutive, big-nosed tracker orc tells the big mean orc to fuck off with his criticism because it's his own fault for being slow and shit at his job, and furthermore he hopes the Witch King really is dead because he's a twat, and then shoots him in the eye and runs off when he tries to attack him, and let me tell you that guy has main event charisma
That guy is your billion dollar Amazon show right there
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 1 May 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link
I'd be down with that.
Anyway, our new episode is up!
https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/26
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link
oh boy! just listened to the Denethor family showcase and working on the Ent one today. :) relevant to my above comments on legend/chronicle/lore: i like your observation that maybe Denethor's attachment to the traditions, politics and details of the office sort of marks him apart from the way others in the universe relate to the past. and so perhaps me reaching for more concrete, graspable history is a bit Denethor-ish, and not really encouraged by the text.
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
Denethor is a civil service
The only other character we see attached to such a position is the guardsman showing ?pippin? around Gondor's barracks
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link
Denethor is also that most overplayed archetype, the cautious governance that has kept the place running in between would-be inspirational leaders actually getting it right as opposed to wrecking the fucking gaff
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
Big fan of Merry bringing low the enemy's hated, hitherto-invincible captain with a one-in-a-million sword he plundered from a place of great danger and carried south for many miles, preventing Eowyn from being splattered into paste in the process, and then goes up to a dying Theoden and immediately apologises for not doing anything useful while in his service
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits)
Merry Sue nest pas
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link
Just listened to the latest episode of By-The-Bywater, on the scouring of the shire. Cracking ep, one of the best yet!
― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link
Thanks kindly! We do our best.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
‘Mortal Kombat’ Star Accuses Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ of Lacking Asian Actorshttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/lord-of-the-rings-amazon-diversity-1234953348/
― dow, Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
The most recent of the Eruditorum posts makes me think that's probably a good thing...
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link
I finally watched the “Tolkien Edit” of the Hobbit movies, a fan edit that chops the trilogy down into one 4-1/2 hour movie. It’s decently watchable, if not actually anything like good. About on a par with most of the Marvel movies I’ve seen (which is not high praise). But if you take it as canon, at least it doesn’t taint & stain the original LOTR trilogy the way the theatrically released Hobbit movies did. Whoever put that together is kind of a hero.
― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link
area fan
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 15 May 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link
There are a couple of those Hobbit edits floating around -- I have two, plus a separate one that's just the Dol Guldur arc. One of those edits did a pretty great job of reducing it down to three hours that followed as closely to the original text as allowed and basically did what I felt could have been done at the start, just tell the story in one film. From the moment they announced it as two films I had my doubts and we all knew what happened after that.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link
yeah, i’d prefer a single hobbit movie and a dedicated dol guldur movie
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link
.. but then if LoTR movies came out now in the MCU age we’d also get a dedicated Tom Bombadil movie, so..
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link
i want to see Lord of the Rings: Paradise, where they all get drunk on the beach and flirt in the pool
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
featuring tom bombadil, i mean
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link
Tom Bombadil: Love and Thunder
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link
xxp pretty sure that’s all what’s going on in the Undying Lands, thus why they’re in such a hurry to go sail there at the end
― epistantophus, Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link
The Lord of the Rings 2: The Scouring of the Shire Part 1
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 15 May 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link
: Genesis
Directors final cut
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Saturday, 15 May 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link
The Two Towers 2: Electric Boogaloo
― Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Saturday, 15 May 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
by 2050, reflecting the continuing evolution of the IP and a need to make clear to younger fans why they should bother watching them, the original Jackson series will have been rebranded "The Scouring of the Shire: Origins"
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 16 May 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link
Lord of the Rings: The Snyder Cut
― scanner darkly, Sunday, 16 May 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link
Its the ewok crossover will really tear it
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 May 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link
The Gondolorian
― scanner darkly, Sunday, 16 May 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link
.. a series about Aragorn’s life as a Strider would probably rock actually
― scanner darkly, Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:00 (two years ago) link
a videogame as well
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link
the thing that people don't yet know about aragorn/Strider is that he often travels via a chain that he throws diagonally up and forward, swinging across any obstacle like tarzan or harry pitfall over the alligators
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link
Isn’t that Bionic Commando!?
― epistantophus, Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link
Nope, it’s my idea!
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link
Listen, I didn’t have a sega genesis!!
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link
i think it should be a Mega Man clone called Dúne Dain.
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 16 May 2021 11:30 (two years ago) link
shit why didn't I go with Dúna Dan
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 16 May 2021 11:31 (two years ago) link
And here I thought you were making a deep-cut reference to actual NES game Strider.
― epistantophus, Sunday, 16 May 2021 11:54 (two years ago) link
2 towers 2 furious
― I have no couch and I must stream (NotEnough), Monday, 24 May 2021 09:22 (two years ago) link
I know that once you start on the LOTR tumblrs you can spend your life there - but this is lovely
https://prismatic-bell.tumblr.com/post/189586763336/ekjohnston-kyraneko-kittyknowsthings
i mean, honestly it’s amazing the Elves had as many languages and dialects as they did, considering Galadriel (for example) is over seven thousand years old.
english would probably have changed less since Chaucer’s time, if a lot of our cultural leaders from the thirteenth century were still alive and running things.
(and other less couth things)
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 May 2021 09:58 (two years ago) link
That's pretty cool, will have to share that.
Another team of Tolkien podcasters -- more well-known than us! -- bagged a pretty good interview with Ralph Bakshi about his film version
https://luke-shelton.com/2021/05/28/tep-32-ralph-bakshi/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 May 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
Anyway as for our own podcast, latest episode is live!
https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/27
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link
Meanwhile, not inaccurate
Canonically, the Lord of the Rings is a memoir by hobbits, which has several detailed descriptions of meals throughout, so maybe the whole saga is just one of those recipe blogs where they have to tell you a whole epic story before getting to the food.— Sean Kelly (@StorySlug) June 3, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
lol otm
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 June 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
this applies a lot to A Song of Ice and Fire (and gets worse with each book with multi page descriptions of various meals)
― scanner darkly, Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
i just purchased the first wheel of time book. i guess i will soon be learning about the cuisine of the time world
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
Eat, Love, Destroy The Ring
― scanner darkly, Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
So, yes, news and a half here:
https://deadline.com/2021/06/lord-of-the-rings-anime-film-the-war-of-the-rohirrim-new-line-1234773024/
A lot to chew over in terms of what this means vis-a-vis future projects, the exact rights split between Amazon and WB, where the MGM purchase might come into play, etc. etc.
But it's a great story to focus on and I'm damn intrigued at what could result. Will note that I do know one of the producers and I have faith in his ability to see it through, so hopefully everyone else is at that level.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link