Spring 2021: Forging ahead to Bloomsday as we read these books

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slathered over them by someone who has nothing

mark s, Friday, 30 April 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

It's more about the musicians, and a certain romantic view of the life of a musician. There is an afterword which gives a much more straightforward potted history of jazz and is laced with Dyer's critical judgments, many of which I disagree with.

o. nate, Friday, 30 April 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

This week I at last started Jonathan Coe's MIDDLE ENGLAND. It's very readable, and mostly very enjoyable. Something I like about Coe is his cultivation of a very standard, repetitive form of comedy, involving set-pieces or bathetic climaxes. This is, at this point, easy, generic stuff for him; the simplicity and generic quality is somehow part of what I like about it. Meanwhile, the book does *less* than usual of something he's done before, namely textual pastiche, chapters in the form of other kinds of genres, etc. It's quite textually homogeneous.

I'm open to whatever the book's political implications may be - I sense that it is genuinely attempting to explore something about diverse views and lives in England (not the rest of the UK) - except that I've had one worry about this book all along: that as a satire of British politics of the 2010s, it will repeat and repurpose various mendacious attacks on and sneers about Jeremy Corbyn MP and his supporters, for satirical or comic purposes at best. I'm afraid that my ultimate feeling about the book will be heavily dependent on how far this is the case.

the pinefox, Saturday, 1 May 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

Damn Galgut's Arctic Summer, a novel about E.M. Forster's Indian adventures (and loves).

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 May 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link

I finished Chinese Rhyme-Prose. Now I am reading The Catherine Wheel, Jean Stafford. Her prose is a marvel of sinuosity.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

I love how Jean Stafford has somehow become an ILB favourite!

the pinefox, Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

the first novel I read when lockdown sarted

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

*started too

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

Don't remember The Catherine Wheel well at all, but some reviews of her Library of America Collected Noves have mentioned it as weakest of the three---but the others set the bar pretty high. Scenes from Boston Adventure, which I read in the 80s, have come back to me lately: girl's duty is housekeeping after school every day, before her mother comes home and delights in pouncing on seemingly tiny failings---so one day the girl gets an early start, cleans up *every7thing*---mother comes home and is enraged. It still rings a bell---but who but Stafford would come up with that---?

dow, Saturday, 1 May 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

I mean to read TCw again, along w the other two (and maybe get library to spring for new LoA collection).

dow, Saturday, 1 May 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

Who but Stafford would come up with that in fiction, I mean (haven't seen it in nonfiction either, just real life, or too close to it)

dow, Saturday, 1 May 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

I'm currently reading "The Killer Inside Me" by Jim Thompson. The pulp pedigree of the book is readily apparent. I was not surprised to learn that the book originally appeared as a paperback original, probably sold mostly in dime stores and not reviewed in any newspaper of note. Featuring lurid depictions of sex, violence and sexual violence and not terribly believable subordinate characters, especially the women, the book is not subtle. However, Thompson's portrayal of the realpolitik and seamy underside of an American Western small town, with its quasi-feudal power structure and casual racism and sexism is memorable. I was curious about the source of my copy's blurb, ostensibly from the NY Times: "Jim Thompson is the best suspense writer going, bar none." This little bit of copy is reproduced in just about every on-line listing for the book. Thanks to the Times online archive it's easy enough to find the original article. It turns out the quote in context is much more ambivalent:

For my own part, I liked Thompson better before the world decided he was a genius. His books pack more of a punch if you pick them up for two bits and come to them with no expectations. Today, though, his quirky little paperbacks can't measure up to the hype. When a cover blurb calls him 'the best suspense writer going, bar none,' the impulse to strike a revisionist pose is almost overwhelming.

This 1990 article about the revival of interest in Thompson is the only place I can find that phrase appearing in the Times. I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the cynicism of Viking in lifting the sentence out of context and placing it on their book covers, its an amoral twist that I can imagine Thompson savoring with a smile.

o. nate, Monday, 3 May 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

Heh, you didn't tell us who wrote that.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 May 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

I might put the author's name behind spoiler tag.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 May 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

Lawrence Block

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 May 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

But can you be sure the phrase wasn't already on those prior editions and he was only quoting it from them?

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 May 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link

Okay, I guess it is usually attributed to the NYT so you are correct, sir.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 May 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

If it wasn’t on prior editions then he is complaining about a cover blurb that doesn’t exist and then publishers snipped the non-existent blurb out and used it as a cover blurb. Frankly... that rules

Pinefox reviews Reviews (wins), Monday, 3 May 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

I think he was paraphrasing an actual cover blurb that did exist, but not from the Times, but then publishers took his paraphrase and attributed it to the NY Times, which I guess has more "influencer" value. It would have been odd if the original blurb was from the Times, and he complained about it without mentioning that fact.

o. nate, Monday, 3 May 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

Hmm, so I guess I was wrong. I see Black Lizard paperbacks from the '80s with that quote attributed to the Times, so I guess that's what Block was referring to in his 1990 article. So now I'm still puzzled where that quote originally appeared. The only place it shows up in the archives search is that 1990 article. Oh well, mystery unsolved..

o. nate, Monday, 3 May 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

The closest thing I can find, at least in terms of the enthusiasm of praise, is a 1985 review of an Elmore Leonard book by Stephen King in which he mentions that Thompson is his favorite crime writer, but the wording is totally different, and that's still too late, since I see that blurb on 1981 Black Lizard reprints.

o. nate, Monday, 3 May 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

It must have been by Anthony Boucher. I see he wrote a regular crime fiction column in the Times in the '50s and he seems to have been a big Thompson fan. Also, it appears that most of his columns only exist as image scans in the archive, so they don't support full-text search. I think the mystery has been solved.

o. nate, Monday, 3 May 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

finally reading let us now praise famous men. picked it up on a whim the other day and found i couldn’t put it down. kind of in love with this endearingly deranged book, though I admit there are moments when i flip ahead mid-paragraph and go “huh. this part goes on for five more pages?”

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 3 May 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

Boy On Fire by Mark Mordue.
I think its a pretty decent biography. He seems to have talked to most of the right people, at least those he had a chance to talk to.
Reads quite well as well.
It's been years since i actually read Ian Johnston and i never replaced toe Robert Brokenmouth I sold Cave in the mid 90s. He gave me the cover price for a copy I went to get him to sign. Anyway I don't remember them giving that much about his childhood/teens. i do remember Brokenmouth did have the trousers down at caulfield group photo or taht is sto say nick with trousers down.

Stevolende, Monday, 3 May 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

Reading 'ELADATL: A History of the East Los Angeles Dirigible Air Transport Lines,' a speculative fiction by one of our finest poets, Sesshu Foster, in collaboration with Arturo Romo. It's excellent so far. More info here: http://www.citylights.com/book/?GCOI=87286100958940

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 3 May 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

finally reading let us now praise famous men. picked it up on a whim the other day and found i couldn’t put it down. kind of in love with this endearingly deranged book, though I admit there are moments when i flip ahead mid-paragraph and go “huh. this part goes on for five more pages?”

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.)
the chapter on this book in rancière's aesthesis really piqued my interest--curious to hear what you think when you finish it.

finally getting around to tove ditlevsen's childhood/youth/dependency trilogy & enjoying the first work quite a bit. the reception of the work had me expecting something very different, but so far it reminds me a little bit of a nordic anne of green gables. i imagine that tone will shift as the story progresses, though.

vivian dark, Monday, 3 May 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

Fizzles your post really makes me want to read some John Dickson Carr, and also reminded me of this recent Guardian article about Japanese locked room mysteries, which might be of interest to you:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/27/honkaku-a-century-of-the-japanese-whodunnits-keeping-readers-guessing

.robin., Tuesday, 4 May 2021 03:45 (three years ago) link

Alice Munro, Open Secrets, as good as her reputation suggests. Was a bit surprised to find a picture section at the end with what seemed to be autobiographical photos - parents' wedding day, a baby in a buggy, growing up in ww2 - was she born in london? trekking overland to Afghanistan - inspiration for one of the stories perhaps? The captions seem to refer to extra biographical detail not found elsewhere. Meeting the prime minister of India, pictures of Kim Philby and Antony Blunt, joining MI5 - er quite the background for a Canadian short story writer. Obviously something was up. Being the subject of tabloid stories before becoming the head of MI5. Stella Rimington's biography, it transpires, is called Open Secret.

Also read Flannery O'Connor, A Good Man etc. As accomplished as Munro in what she does but not my cup of tea.

I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 07:54 (three years ago) link

Alice Munro was in MI5 ?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 08:01 (three years ago) link

Sorry, I was not explicit. Alice Munro's book is called Open Secrets. Stella Rimington's bio is called Open Secret. Some mix up at the publishers.

I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 08:08 (three years ago) link

Remarkable. Like an incident in a Jonathan Coe novel.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 4 May 2021 08:29 (three years ago) link

Fizzles your post really makes me want to read some John Dickson Carr, and also reminded me of this recent Guardian article about Japanese locked room mysteries, which might be of interest to you:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/27/honkaku-a-century-of-the-japanese-whodunnits-keeping-readers-guessing🕸


yes i saw it! thanks robin. i read the decagon house murders recently and… well, it plays pretty fast and loose with the notion of a locked room but isn’t without interest. also read edogawa rampo a long time ago, but it was mainly uncanny iirc. didn’t realise he’d done mysteries.

i’m always going on about JDC here but it’s the obvious ones to go for: the hollow man, hag’s nook, the ten teacups, the crooked hinge, the case of the constant suicides, the burning court (i must admit that i go for anything early from him, and on the minus side some of the mysteries like the otherwise good murder in the submarine zone and indeed constant suicides have a very irritating manner where alcohol is concerned.)

Fizzles, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link

reading my first wodehouse ('code of the woosters'). it is delightful

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link

At the risk of behaving like the cat I' the adage perpetuating a cliche, I envy you, mookie.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

quite so

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

when was that ever not appropriate? I mean he was mookie's kryptonite!

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

the great minds of the thread are standing in a line watching you go by, mookie

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link

The the whole point about the mookieproofs, as I have had occasion to remark before, is that they are not lesser men. They keep their heads. They think quickly, and they act quickly. Napoleon was the same.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link

:)

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

The Code of the Mookies

o. nate, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:22 (three years ago) link

I don't understand the last 7 posts.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

riffing on this: ILX cosmology: the origins of your user name

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

That's great. I always thought it was somehow a Mookie Wilson reference.

o. nate, Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

Finally reading let us now praise famous men. picked it up on a whim the other day and found i couldn’t put it down. kind of in love with this endearingly deranged book, though I admit there are moments when i flip ahead mid-paragraph and go “huh. this part goes on for five more pages?” Once you've recovered from that one, maybe you'll dig Agee On Film, which is equally energetic in searching for visionz *and* fault---eventually finding fault with some of his own earlier flights in this same doorstop. Also interesting to compare his bop sermon prosody in the New Republic with relatively restrained reports for Time, when dealing with the same subjects.

dow, Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:38 (three years ago) link

Maybe I'll get the local library to spring for this Library of America round-up:
https://www.loa.org/books/228-film-writing-and-selected-journalism
Which also has his screenplay for Night of the Hunter, uncollected film writing, book reviews, and lots more. (Where's the screenplay for African Queen?) Think I'm going to read A Death In The Family pretty soon, and re-read The Morning Watch (LoA's second volume incl. those with "the expanded 1960 edition" of Let Us... and some shorter fiction).

dow, Thursday, 6 May 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link

I've now looked at the thread about names, but I still don't understand the posts above on this thread.

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 May 2021 09:25 (three years ago) link

pinefox have you read no wodehouse?

mark s, Thursday, 6 May 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link

Seems to be the case (couldn’t think of how to say in Wodehouse-ese)

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 May 2021 10:17 (three years ago) link

when non-wodehouse-reader (me) is calling to non-wodehouse-reader (the pinefox) like mastodons bellowing across primeval swamps

mark s, Thursday, 6 May 2021 10:19 (three years ago) link

Heh, lol

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 May 2021 10:23 (three years ago) link


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