the art, such as it is, is conceptual in every way and is mostly represented by the action of playing along by taking part in the charade of capitalism
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 May 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link
I’ve enjoyed NBA Top Shot. I don’t really care about art or collecting, just making money. I buy all the packs I can and almost immediately flip the moments for a profit. Off my initial $9 investment, I’ve turned it into 4-figure profits. So every pack I buy is playing with house money at this point.
The great thing about Top Shot is the ease of on boarding. No need to have any knowledge of the intricacies of crypto transactions, just sign up for an account, attach a credit card, and hope you get lucky on pack drops.
On the other hand, I’ve been trying to get into Zed Run, but the barrier of entry is much higher. I’m finally trying to buy a horse today. To do that, I had to figure out what MetaMask is, connect it to Zed Run, purchase some ETH, convert it to wETH, all of which had associated fees.
That’s all I’ve dabbled in. Everything else has been way too expensive to get started.
― Jeff, Friday, 7 May 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
I’m finally trying to buy a horse today.
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 May 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link
Still trying to get one, this release has been a shitshow.
― Jeff, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link
Heavy Metal comic magazine now doing this shit so you too can burn down a rainforest in order to pay through the nose to "own" a hyperlink to a page from a comic with a woman who has her massive tits out.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 10:51 (two years ago) link
https://oncurio.com/collections/heavy-metal
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 10:52 (two years ago) link
i pledged to not look at this thread or care about NFTs ever again, but it's hard because it appears that the entire world should eat shit and fuck off for life and someone needs to say it
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
nfts are for rich people that don't deserve their money
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
but yes, it's here to stay, i think. you can't put the lid back on the bottle.
representative of how dumb human beings are: https://pitchfork.com/features/article/11-indie-musicians-on-how-theyre-navigating-the-nft-wave/
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
zola jesus has the only coherent answer, and it's amazing how vapid the rest of them are. i hope they get rich and die due to eating too much shit
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
ANOHNI's answer is pretty good:
“I think it’s shit. They won’t stop until they have sucked the life and value out of every remaining shred of organic life and every last gasp of analog craft or thought and crammed it into Elon Musk and Grimes’ patented space dildo, headed for Mars to reauthor the future of sentience in their own psychotic and ethically bankrupt likeness.”
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link
unfortunately pitchfork decided to use the sub-hed "The Climate Advocate: ANOHNI" above their answer. anohni's not wrong, but it sucks that it's the main "environmental" perspective out of those who answered.
although, anohni knows it probably doesn't matter anyway. people, demonstrably, don't give a FUCK about climate change
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
yeah it doesn't really seem like any of them understand why this is so dumb and wasteful. it's more like...the philosophy of NFTs. who gives a shit. FWIW I'm in favor of anything that helps artists pay the bills, especially if it's just at the expense of one rich superfan, it sucks that the actual implementation of it is so fucking stupid. but I can't fault these people for trying to make it work considering no one can tour right now and their 68 cent monthly checks from Spotify probably aren't making ends meet
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
should really copy that to "Elon Musk", the thread, and lock it
― If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 May 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link
im p sure i never need to own an nft
― plax (ico), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:14 (two years ago) link
also anohni otm. the bits i skim read of the others they all sound like such hollow ghouls lol
― plax (ico), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
yeah it doesn't really seem like any of them understand why this is so dumb and wasteful. it's more like...the philosophy of NFTs
i think it's worth countering them on philosophical/stoner grounds as well. there's something really sad and pathetic about accelerating and expanding speculation based on empty, mediocre, market-driven culture. i don't know how to talk about that shit with these crypto people. they put fucking $DERP signs in their twitter bios for fucks sake, it's like telling everybody to buy a certain stock or something...fuck you?
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
and it spawns these demonic gangs of american psycho/clockwork orange hybrid twitter dorks who work as a group to troll people with "HAVEFUNBEINGPOOR" memes, and it's just like, could you go express your alienation from late capitalism with loud music or something instead of adopting libertarians as your new heroes? again, it's just fucking sad.
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
seems sad to be an artist so uninterested in the things you are making or worse: "This is a chance to grab a foothold in a whole new world.”
― plax (ico), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:24 (two years ago) link
they should go find a foothold in their new world and fuck off
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link
i wish they'd skip to the part where they plug in and have virtual sex of their dreams for eternity while i die at age 69 of a heart attack
and the old trolls will yell "nice!" at my death as they cum in their little tanks
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
but my online gravestone will read "i'm rather be dead than you, #cryptoturds" and that will hurt them a little
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:32 (two years ago) link
more and more, i envision a future where so many people self-raptured to digital riches and virtual heaven, while i walk around earth's abandoned fields listening to "key west" and talking to horses
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:34 (two years ago) link
about a month or so before I made this thread I was considering making some nfts to possibly make a quick buck and then I got too lazy to do it
― Bongo Jongus, Friday, 14 May 2021 23:42 (two years ago) link
another way to think about being lazy is that you're taking your time. sometimes taking your time keeps you from shaving your pubes (Isaiah 7:20). by which the lord meant nothing for or against shaving them, just that sometimes it does change things to just wait
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 23:46 (two years ago) link
you should definitely take your time when shaving your pubes to avoid being that person in the emergency room
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 May 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
I never got a horse. Fuck NFTs. Unless I end up with a horse.
― Jeff, Thursday, 20 May 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link
Christie's is selling NFTs of 'original' Warhol drawings made on an Amiga in 1985 - but Warhol's drawings were 300x200 and the ones Christie's are selling have been upscaled to 6000x4500.
It should be clear that a 6000x4500 image in Amiga's uncompressed .PIC format could not possibly fit on a 1.4MB floppy, nor in the Amiga 1000's 512kb RAM. I'm not sure if your collectors care that they're bidding on a secondary by-product, but I would.— Golan Levin (@golan) May 20, 2021
― I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Thursday, 20 May 2021 08:43 (two years ago) link
oops, start of thread here:
Dear @ChristiesInc @gcerutti: As you advertise the authenticity of Warhol's "five original drawings" on the NFT blockchain, I'm concerned that your collectors might be confused about what they're bidding on—since you're not auctioning the originals, which were created at 320x200.— Golan Levin (@golan) May 20, 2021
― I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Thursday, 20 May 2021 08:44 (two years ago) link
reading about NFTs makes my brain freeze up faster than anything else, it seems truly misbegotten, like a flaw in the human code or something
― imago, Thursday, 20 May 2021 11:09 (two years ago) link
lol, that warhol thread is amazing
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link
xp
they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
true but I think there's maybe an argument to be made that it's not ~~that~~ much different than say, record collecting today. like the whole philosophy of Record Store Day shit kinda harkens back to this. though the fact that it's some digital token that may or may not point to something does add an inconceivably dumb layer to all of this
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
https://protos.com/nft-market-bubble-popped-crypto-collectibles-are-over/
90% decline in daily trading value, sports collectibles are now a higher proportion than crypto-art.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link
Bonsai trees are blowing up.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link
whats funny about this is there are probably dozens of serious artists who spent the last several months developing "the most complex NFT of all time" who are gonna wind up selling them for like....a thousand bucks
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link
Top Shot was fun when I could buy a $9 pack and get 10x-15x returns. Now I basically can make a few dollars on a pack. The thrill is gone.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link
"CO:QUO presents Music Futures & Simulacra: Exploring Without a Map" — seminar on NFTs and music happening live rn, watching out of morbid curiosity.
their site: https://www.coquo.co/musicfuturesthe stream: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=451919682566367&ref=watch_permalink
― davey, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
ok the panel is not fulfilling its stated goal, which is to "break down elements of the technology as they apply to specifically to music communities." maybe i'm not familiar enough with how NFTs are supposed to work for musicians/communities to appreciate this discourse, but from where i'm sitting this is just a bunch of woo. their was mention of the 90% decline and rebuilding from the ground up but i'm not hearing answers about how that is supposed to be achieved
― davey, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
i'm turning this shit off and going back a few months on this guy's timeline instead
Every day this month I am going to tweet about a use case for music + crypto.31 days of music + crypto ideas.1. A use case2. Example architecture3. Existing thinking and projects working on the idea (if applicable) Day 1: Payment Splits 👇— Jack Spallone (@JackSpallone) March 1, 2021
― davey, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link
fair payment splits is a bunch of BS. usually based on smart contracts, which doesn't solve the problem. covered extensively by david gerard in his book and probably on his blog.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
We have to make a way for crypto to work. I mean, music plus crypto
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link
I'm still not clear on why anyone would ever want to buy an nft
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
Like other than as an 'investment'
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link
i think it's a combo of:
1) wanting to make money, thinking of it as any crypto investment. like, buy really low on this awesome digital art (heehee) or the true only NFT-certified copy of this song, and in 10 years it's going to be huge and you'll be on a space flight and won't even notice the change in your bank account because you're a fucking genius and you bought low when it was a new thing and the dumb people who wanted to be poor were yelling at you
2) being a total fucking dick
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
sorry, disregard 1) then. all the other reasons are subservient to the health of the investment.
it's just 2)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link
on the side of the person selling the NFT, i think some of them just want to make some money, and that makes sense because the vast majority of artists don't make money and know they never will...until now. problem is, once they accept crypto as payment, they'll find that using it and spending it is an investment into itself, and now they're an investor. then, uh oh, you're an artist who is a fucking dick, and later you'll just be a crypto crypto who is a fucking crypto
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link
― Jeff, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link
So glad this crypto horse racing thing wasn’t around when my dad was alive, he’d have gone bankrupt in a week.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link