Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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I’m still cracking up about a guy I knew starring a podcast in the early days, right after Apple latched on to the coining of “podcasts” starting one with a “beet” non-pun in the title and it just being him editing bad riffing with friends together

they could have made it if he’d tried later. but not too late

mh, Monday, 10 May 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link

releasing podcasts whenever you have something to say does not build you an audience. people just want their scheduled chatter on tuesdays and the fridays even if the quality wavers.

This is true from a business pov but frankly, as in other media, I'll always ride for the people who think "well fuck that" and just do whatever the fuck they want. So much more excited when a podcast w/ inconsistent regularity drops in my feed.

Simon, tell us more (perhaps on the podcasts thread)?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 May 2021 08:53 (two years ago) link

at some point I will make a post there with all my advice for the podding-curious

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 10 May 2021 12:24 (two years ago) link

I think consistency is crucial, it's like anything, some weeks you just aren't going to be feeling it but you committed to doing it so you get it done.

mine is also a (very small) part of a larger patreon funded thing so you have to deliver what you promised

I just feel like if you don't commit to a schedule (and not to say that it's not possible) 9/10 it's just going to fade out

whether it's monthly, weekly, whatever doesn't matter as much

or maybe that's me, I think even hobby stuff I have to make into a "job" in a sense especially in the sense of feeling like I owe it to other people to finish or I'll just procrastinate and let it go

I think a consistent schedule is quite important for myself as a podcaster too, I just don't rate it at all as a listener.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 May 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link

yeah I would agree, I personally tend to fall behind then get in a mood and listen to like 3 in a row

I do feel like we are in the minority on that though

Consistency yes, but it's consistency of schedule vs consistency of quality?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 May 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

Elizabeth Bruenig knows that having children is a costly choice, but she wants to have children, and she thinks everyone else should pay for it. Christian nationalists approve this message.https://t.co/XtTXcXdwTP pic.twitter.com/3m2Hatm7rq

— Joel M. Curzon 🇫🇷 (@JoelMCurzon) May 10, 2021

Liz Bruenig’s best quality is her ability to break these peoples’ brains.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

lol

We should actually fine people who have children, to own the Christian nationalists

— tps12 (@twepius) May 11, 2021

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

I'm troubled by Noah Smith's and Elizabeth Bruenig's white extinction anxiety, which imo informs their shared fixations on immigrant/latina/mexican motherhood. I wish publications hired latina critics and opinion writers. For now, everything is about us... yet without us.

— Aura Bogado (@aurabogado) May 10, 2021

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing this woman it was a tremendous personal achievement to be repeatedly knocked up by an Internet troll she met in high school pic.twitter.com/eU30fZfUDB

— Jude Ellison S. Doyle (@sadydoyle) May 9, 2021

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

twitter should be shutdown for public health reasons.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

public health sounds like a nazi scheme

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/4d0iwOCUSb

— Foreskin Majeure (@_JackDump_) May 10, 2021


I do like the visual of having the woman-hating trans menace loom out of the darkness at the delicate white cis lady, but you could put some extra sauce on it. Should I be in a bathroom, perhaps, or injecting hormones into one of her precious white babies? Things to consider. https://t.co/7zDDol9v6h

— Jude Ellison S. Doyle (@sadydoyle) May 10, 2021

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

afaict there are no good guys

Left, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

I have no idea why ppl are losing their mind at that essay, I could barely get through it it was very boring

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

which essay? the 2019 washington post one?

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

no, the nyt mother's day declaration of race war

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

oh, i just opened it and started scrolling but my eyes are not capable of reading about this topic. i do want to reiterate that i hate amanda marcotte, though.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link

I don't understand any of this

A bunch of very online people got very mad at a slightly less online person for the most anodyne column about how having kids is cool even if you’re not ready and the government should help you more.

If it starts to make sense, that’s when you should worry.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

it's pretty simple really, people hate her for being anti-abortion and look for any excuse to get mad at even her mildest op-eds about having kids even though she seems to take pains to never ever reference abortion (because she's not a complete dummy and knows there's absolutely no demand for a "left" anti-abortion position). I agree with everyone calling the op-ed boring tbh - I get it, you like having kids. in fact it's only the vitriolic responses that make them noteworthy at all xp

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

also it really seems like anti-natalism is becoming more prevalent online but that's just my feeling

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

having kids, and especially not being depressed about it, is an offense against people who can't have kids or don't want to have kids. And asking the government to fund things like pre-K and paid maternity leave is right wing because it encourages more white people to have kids. And birth rates.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

What

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

outlining the position of her detractors

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

That's absolutely batshit

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

That is an accurate summary of the views of some online ultraleftists who are indistinguishable from ops, yes.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

i don't know who joel curzon is, is he an online ultraleftist? i'm ok with paying parents and letting them have tons of leave from work fwiw (though i think everyone including me should get tons of leave from work for whatever they want)

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

oh, looks like he's an "overpopulation" guy, cool

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

It is a boring and inoffensive article onto which a social media-savvy editor slapped an "AND I'M NOT SORRY" headline in order to make it sound like she was accusing 35-year-old primagravidas of missing out on What Is Good In Life

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link

“Malthusian Marxist”

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

I mean yes the responses are terrible but getting responses like that is the goal of the publication in running the piece (i.e. not Bruenig's goal in writing it, I would think)

And I was going to say that the blame thus lies with the publication, but they have been left with no financial path forward that doesn't involve either clickbait-mining like this or selling the headquarters to a hedge fund and firing all the reporters so I don't even know if blame is the right word

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Anyway thanks to these freaks for reminding me to stay off Twitter.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

being anti-abortion is indefensible and it seriously bothers me how so much of the online left seems to think it's nbd. she is also transphobic

the article excerpt seems fairly inoffensive in itself and all the critics cited here are also pretty terrible afaict

Left, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

How is she transphobic?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

Let me count the ways

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

I actually have no idea btw, it just seemed like the thing to say

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

childcare, housing and education should be more affordable. this is a good goal of public policy. it will allow people who wish to become parents to be able to do so. it will also benefit people who do not wish to become parents, as everyone benefits when fewer people are in poverty. crime rates decrease, healthcare costs decrease, people have more time and energy to volunteer and invest in other pro-social behaviors, etc.

treeship., Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link

(because she's not a complete dummy and knows there's absolutely no demand for a "left" anti-abortion position)

catholic worker erasure

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

this is bruenig's position as far as i understand it. people who say she is worried about "white birthrates" are just lying. self xp

treeship., Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

re:transphobia e.g. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExF1fYPWUAUX6YX?format=jpg&name=900x900

Left, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

shit https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExF1fYPWUAUX6YX?format=jpg&name=900x900

Left, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

well you can click the link

Left, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

Left are you noah berlatsky?

treeship., Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link

lmao fucking disgusting screencap

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link

xp no and i do not like him either. i just really fucking despise this crypto conservative subculture on the left

Left, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

why agree with jesse singal about anything

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link


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