but i would also say that if cadillac speeds up production by 10x, increases sales by 10x, and drops fee 100x, they will also win hands down.
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link
what a visionary
― eisimpleir (crüt), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link
Ideally,
― Clay, Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link
ideally elon would give me one million dollars ten million dollars and a billion dollars, if he did that i would be rich hands down
― lag∞n, Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link
It is once again hard to argue with the science
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link
ideally,
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link
wait... what if they sped up block time 100X??
― eisimpleir (crüt), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:24 (two years ago) link
that would be a 10X win
― lag∞n, Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link
what's crazy is, what if they sped up block time 110X? you see where i'm going with this
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link
it's exponential
amazing that he managed to become the richest man of all time
Investopedia (updated May 2021) begs to differ:
1: Jeff Bezos... an estimated net worth of $197 billion, he is the richest man in the world2: Elon Musk... estimated net worth is $152 billion.3: Bernard Arnault... estimated net worth is $150 billion.
2: Elon Musk... estimated net worth is $152 billion.
3: Bernard Arnault... estimated net worth is $150 billion.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Sunday, 16 May 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link
Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, Be-ZOS, !!!!Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, Accum-u-LATE, !!!!
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link
i think we can all agree that all these guys should have more money
― Clay, Sunday, 16 May 2021 04:52 (two years ago) link
Bezos sits inside the service yacht, aboard the main yacht, reading the coverage of the yacht on his yacht
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 16 May 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link
the idea that these people have all this money is always so hilarious to me. they kindof dont really. what are they going to do, take 50billion out of the atm? all you can do with it after a certain point really is buy some worthless app company called Ploom or Burdl (expected IPO value 12bn.) so whats the difference between having like 50bn or 100bn or like 200tn? its the same.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 16 May 2021 07:44 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppGd-2nEOVQ
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 16 May 2021 09:39 (two years ago) link
Billionaires shouldn't exist. The rich cause society to be twisted to server their wants rather than the needs of everyone else.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 16 May 2021 09:40 (two years ago) link
whats the difference between having like 50bn or 100bn or like 200tn? its the same.
it has nothing to do with purchasing anything you want or need for yourself or for any of your 1000 closest family and friends (most of these billionaires barely have family and have no friends). it has everything to do with having enough personal power to shape the present society and its future, through corporations and foundations that will bear your name and vision in perpetuity. basically, it feeds their megalomania.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Sunday, 16 May 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
Kind of hilarious how pissed Bitcoin twitter is with Elon right now.
― o. nate, Monday, 17 May 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
How confidence looks like ❤️ pic.twitter.com/CbMN5F6Csw— Alex (@alex_avoigt) May 17, 2021
― lag∞n, Monday, 17 May 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
A Tesla in autopilot mode crashed into a deputy's patrol car in Washington, causing significant damage.https://t.co/3mK37E6j9G— KATU News (@KATUNews) May 17, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 17 May 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
comrade autopilot thank u 4 ur service
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 17 May 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
tesla is good now
― lag∞n, Monday, 17 May 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link
lol
― sleeve, Monday, 17 May 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
Serious question cos I have no freaking idea how any of this works - is it likely Musk is manipulating the markets on purpose and then buying cheap stock in the dip? Isnt that trackable and illegal?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link
Bitcoin and Ethereum aren't publicly traded. Maybe some sort of related company though.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link
Economist Nouriel Roubini is accusing Elon Musk of market manipulation and stating that the SEC (U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission) should investigate.
The basis of Roubini's accusations stems from Elon Musk's tweets. Roubini accuses Elon of using his Twitter platform to pump up the price.
"For somebody like Elon Musk, who knows he has the market impact to manipulate, first take an individual position in Bitcoin, pump the price up, and then say that Tesla has invested."
"And Tesla doesn't make any money yet, it's also irresponsible, and it's market manipulation. The SEC should be looking into people that have a market impact, and that manipulate the price of assets. That's also criminal behavior"
Commenting on @Tesla's $1.5 billion bitcoin buy on #CDTV First Mover this morning, @Nouriel said it's "criminal behavior" for Elon Musk to take an individual stance on bitcoin to pump up the price before announcing Tesla's investment."Talk about a criminal enterprise." pic.twitter.com/aSHPX5ayHM— CoinDesk (@CoinDesk) February 10, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link
unlikely hes manipulating tesla stock but hes very obviously manipulating crypto
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link
xps buying cheap stock in the dip?
here's what I understand about it. first, cryptocurrency markets are not regulated afaik and there are no cryptocurrency stocks to directly speculate in, just the currency itself. however, i've seen that tesla's reported profits have been strongly tied to their acceptance of cryptocurrency in sales transactions. tesla can then choose when and how they liquidate their crypto holdings into dollars in those unregulated markets, so if they (through musk) are manipulating those markets, they could easily maximize their resulting profits. seems like speculators could also be using tesla stock as a proxy to speculate in what amounts to a rigged cryptocurrency market.
I think the SEC can't do a thing about it, as long as tesla accurately discloses its reliance on cryptocurrency as part of their source of profits.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link
tesla bought a bunch of bitcoin, and musk has been personally messing with doge, kinda doubt too much of their sales are in bitcoin
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link
so tesla's directly speculating in an unregulated market. cool.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
im no big city lawyer, i dont really know what meets the criteria of market manipulation, but def seems like theres some fishy stuff going on
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link
Did I post this or did I dream that I did? Anyway it’s goodhttps://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/17/michael-burry-of-the-big-short-reveals-a-530-million-bet-against-tesla.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 01:45 (two years ago) link
Yeah sorry stock was the wrong word, its currency trading. I dont think I actually realised it wasnt public trading, either.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link
thats a lotta puts baby xp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:06 (two years ago) link
*pushes up glasses* it's actually $500m NOTIONAL value. He didn't put up $500m.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link
Also afaict there is little if any regulatory/legal mechanism to prevent crypto manipulation.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link
Yeah, that's the point, it's outside those stuffy things like LAWS, maaaaaaan
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 08:41 (two years ago) link
guys cmon be serious just because something is a crypto currency doesnt mean its outside the reach of long arm of the law, they dont have to like formally add each new asset class that comes along to the law books lol, the sec and other government agencies are happy to regulate anything people buy and sell, for instance theres been tons of investigations and prosecution/fining of crypto companies going on the whole time, now that doesnt mean that the crypto ecosystem isnt difficult to regulate due to its lack of transparency and surfeit of scammers at every level cause obvs it is, but my understanding is the government a while ago decided to treat crypto like securities and proceeded accordingly
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:25 (two years ago) link
and of course they could bring new laws/resources online to deal with the specifics of crypto which its kind of surprising they havent already, special new crime tools been out there for years lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link
not quite as easy to move as the price of doge coin
Giga Berlin suppliers please accelerate!— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link
I mean yeah you can't like hide all your assets in bitcorn while you're going through a divorce and it's still illegal to scam people but I don't think market manipulation stuff is against the law, it's kind of the one thing bitcoins are really good for
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link
it most certainly is against the law to manipulate the markets... whatever that means
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link
Tell that to the farmers in my town! Every third Saturday, what the hell is that?
― pplains, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link
i will tell them
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
Thanks to @YIMBY_Princeton for inspiring me to check in on the Tesla forums, this Model Y trim discoloration (apparently caused by touchless car washes) is another classic. https://t.co/HhAaqK4U8l pic.twitter.com/zHbN7eij3k— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
$TSLA - @elonmusk, you need to get to precision within inches first before you even attempt centimeters.#bitcoin #BTC https://t.co/duPnkKBeqs pic.twitter.com/WZyHzO6dHC— phoenix10 (smartish) (@phoennix10) May 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Hn04JBH.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
how many other value analysts do you think there are?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link
I already answered your question.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link