yeah I'm kinda happy i don't need to worry about my forever recurring chin zit at the moment.
― Diggin Holes (Ste), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link
Masks - usage is to prevent the wearer from spreading the virus, and not the other way around.
actually, we've gotten evidence about masks protecting the user after all: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/11/933903848/wear-masks-to-protect-yourself-from-the-coronavirus-not-only-others-cdc-stresses
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:20 (two years ago) link
I was supposed to see a friend this summer so we could introduce our kids to each other, but it slowly became clear that he was not and had no intention of getting vaccinated. He even brought up the whole HIPAA thing.
― Heez, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:33 (two years ago) link
Surfaces - virus mainly spreads by air but the virus can still survive for short periods (day or two?) on surfaces so always best to wipe and be safe
in perfect lab conditions yes, but I think in reality the virus doesn't survive more than a couple minutes on a given surface? I remember reading that surface transmission was incredibly rare
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link
lol people think HIPAA just means "i can't tell you about my medical history", not that it's an act that prevents providers from broadly sharing someone's medical history to people who aren't authorized to obtain it.
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link
Elementary school-aged kids do generally listen about the masks, they just tend not to wear them well or be conscientious about them slipping off, so without non-stop reminders they become ineffective. Middle and high school kids are much less likely to listen at all. This is from my experience around elementary school aged kids plus my wife's experience teaching.
I also think it's silly to make kids wear them outside since there is zero evidence of children spreading COVID outside.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link
there's nothing wrong with being clean, my issue are many companies will brag about their next level cleaning process while doing none of the other CDC recommended measures like distancing people, limiting capacity, requiring masks, etc.
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link
it was a move companies used to use to try and silence complaints:
"guys, we're safe - we bring in the SANITIZER5000 and it zaps all germs/viruses/bacteria! also btw everybody sits in this restaurant naked and we don't require masks cos we think it's unnecessary"
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/05/26/1025361/us-promoting-vaccine-tourism-new-york/
― rob, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link
the children will generally do as they're told about the masks, except for the ones with behavioral issues. by and large they're fine with following the rules. it's the adults that are the problem.
data point: I have an intellectually disabled kid with severe behavioral issues, and he's a more consistent mask advocate than anyone I know. His world is chaos so he loves routine.
We're in the car together on the way to school.
DAD - MAS ON!
Mind you, we live together, so we've been breathing shared air for ten years, including the last year and a half. My wife and I are fully vaccinated and our 13-year-old is half vaccinated.
Dude, I will put my mask on when we get there, but right now we're in the car.
Okay, okay, here. See? I have mask on.
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
fuck it mask off
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link
yeah i don't really buy the idea that kids/teens wont wear masks. . . i bet its the parents that are the problem
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link
at this point I’m genuinely concerned about all the surface cleaning, both in terms of creating the evolutionary pressure for superbugs and of my own immune regulation. I’m not anti-hygiene, I wash my hands (with non-antibacterial soap!) regularly and do plenty of other things to be conscientious towards others, but sterilizing every damn public surface umpteen times a day just does not seem healthy on the population level, especially after it’s been proven many times over that it has no effect on the pandemic. Most immune systems get a net benefit from sub-infectious exposure to ambient bacteria!
― nicole, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link
― a (waterface), Wednesday, May 26, 2021 8:48 AM (thirteen minutes ago)
🤐
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link
sterilizing every damn public surface umpteen times a day
I just... are we actually doing this? I don't think my kids' school is but they're distancing and they bought expensive new air filters
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
a lot of places are still practicing sterilization theater... hotels for instance
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link
actually that's just anecdotal don't listen to me lol
ok more concrete example: the new york subway
I had to serve on jury duty Monday and they are def practicing hyper sterilization in the courtrooms and waiting areas, though also doing a reasonably good job of distancing and separation.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link
Oh I’m def not talking about schools, I’m talking about e.g. the chain restaurants etc that now smell like Lysol at all timesidk I’m not trying to make any concrete public health assertions, I just think it’s possible to overcorrect on this stuff
― nicole, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link
Oh gotcha sorry
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
At the same time, I both:
* can't quite believe that anyone still believes the fomite hype or why anyone is still buying bleach spray etc while also standing indoors without a mask or insisting that [x] behavior is fine...
* and I also totally believe that businesses are not going to STOP doing it in case someone accuses them of not taking every precaution but they also won't be able to force people who enter their buildings to wear masks, will leave plexiglass shields up but not increase ventilation, etc.
In short we better hope the vaccines keep working as well as advertized.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
in orbit otm, I think restaurants are just doing it for fear of being accused of not doing everything they can to protect customers.
fwiw, my mom and stepdad, both fully vaxxed still let their mail sit in the garage for 24 hours and are still wiping down their groceries every trip. not choices I would make, but... people got into habits that are hard to break, even if the science doesn't back it up.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
Trying to wrap my head around the idea that the New York subway system is in danger of being too clean
― Pfizer the pharma chip (wins), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
man when I visited in March '20 just before the world shut down my car gleamed.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
I mean if you are very vulnerable and you isolated for 14 months and truly stayed in your house, didn't see your friends or family, had groceries delivered or shopped minimally, sanitized everything, and were very cautious, AND IT WORKED AND YOU DIDN'T GET COVID AND DIE AND YOU MADE IT TO A VACCINE, it's hard to argue with that, really. You can see how it reinforces the behavior.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
― badg, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link
I let my mail sit for like a month, but it's not because of Covid, it's because the idea of opening it fills me with existential dread.
My school theoretically has teachers wiping down all the student desks after every class period, which must be awful - I can't imagine the fumes. I haven't been doing that because I only teach one class, so I just assume everything gets sanitized at the end of the day anyway.
― Lily Dale, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link
― Pfizer the pharma chip (wins), Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:25 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol fair
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
They should find some way to infect rats with covid vaccine then send them out in the world to spread it. I'm sure that would go well.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
These stories about investigating the Wuhan lab as the origin of the virus are giving me the vapors.
― Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Thursday, 27 May 2021 11:59 (two years ago) link
And those vapors will give you the virus! It's a vicious cycle!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 May 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link
lol
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 12:23 (two years ago) link
Govt. of Kerala will provide a special package for children who have lost their parents to #Covid19. ₹3,00,000 will be given as immediate relief and a monthly sum of ₹2,000 will be issued till their 18th birthday. Educational expenses will be covered till graduation.— CMO Kerala (@CMOKerala) May 27, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 May 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link
that's some governin' right there
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 May 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link
Yup.
Well done everybody
A study shows people working from home are having sex, dating, taking naps and doing side hustles on company time https://t.co/fTlguCu1JZ pic.twitter.com/bGQv7h1wRM— Forbes (@Forbes) May 26, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
Profit forbid!
― DJI, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
wish Forbes would stop spying on me
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
I don't know, you'd think all that sex and side hustling would earn you the occasional nap on the company dime, but I guess not. Back to the sex and side-hustling, wage slave!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
I have not had sex, dated, or napped.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
... today.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
Well, yeah
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link
lol I did every one of those things when I was wfh
― nicole, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
wfh?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
working from home
― DJI, Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
whatfuckinghell
I thought
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
as if all of those things haven't happened on company time in the office
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 May 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
"Tales From The Supply Closet"
― nickn, Thursday, 27 May 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
i used to sleep when i felt ill or depressed in the office too lol, we had an employee lounge
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 May 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link
they put a bunch of cozy couches all over the first floor of our office and people started using them for naps despite the fact that they are out in the open and anyone can walk by and see you there sleeping.
― Heez, Thursday, 27 May 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link