― dave q, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
One of the things that unite certain JT and Moz fans -- the need for a hug. And a good lay.
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I thought that there was supposed to be some brilliantly dark, wry humour underlying the Smiths' lyrical canon although it all sounds like a big old whine to me (although that's what people say about Radiohead and I still love them, in small doses).
My friend Ant claims that "Girlfriend In A Coma" is such a ridiculously sad title for a song that Moz must be taking the mickey, but another friend told me that Moz DID actually once have a girlfriend who went into a coma and so perhaps it is supposed be tender, poignant, heart-rendingly sad etc. I don't know, it all goes over my head except "let me get my hands/on your mammary glands".
There's a Todd Rundgren album cover with a photo of the artist at a piano with a noose around his head poking fun at JT and his ilk. Nick Drake still rules though.
Can someone please respond to this post or I'll go back to lurking.
― chris sallis, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
life is endless ups and downs and epic passions and tumultous violence and epiphanic redemption and love and hate and mystery and sex and death
JT's & Mozz's fans share your position here & are distressed by how few people, percentage-wise, also do.
― John Darnielle, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah, but that is kind of like saying that English dental hygiene is much better than that practiced by Barbary pirates.
― Brent, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clarke B., Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm not sure I buy this completely though it often seems to chime with my own knowledge of art and artists. The mere existence of the theory pretty much ensures that some artists will seek to conform to it.
The way the mechanism works may be more than normally obvious with Morrisey and JT. But some theories of aesthetics would hold that they are essentially doing the same thing as many, or most, or even all artists.
― ArfArf, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
This is so funny, and so right! Which reminds me, I've gotta get that 45.
― Sean, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Or to quote the immortal Diskothi-Q: "And I/sure hate those people who/like the Smiths/but I/sure as f*ck/don't trust nobody who don't"
unless one is unhealthily attached to Derrida
Alex T to thread! As well as half the people I work with.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
When Christgau is on...he's on. But usually he's off. B+ So,lets not start a LiLiPUT vs Sleater-Kinney thread,Ok.
― brg30, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link