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Hahah I was playing that exact record when I opened up this thread tonight. I got mine for $3.99 used though :P 'Toxin' jams hard.

sous les paves, Thursday, 29 March 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I found Living For The Night for a couple bucks last time I was in Chicago. A pretty cool find.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 March 2007 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link

finally got 320kbps copy of the 'World 2 World' EP via Beatport recently :)

blueski, Thursday, 29 March 2007 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i went the lazy cheap route and got that off of emusic...

the table is the table, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't if this has been posted, Mad Mike interview feature from the Slices DVD.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for that Michael.

matt2, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i should point out that the nocturbulous behavior mix is on emusic as a cost-effective all-in-one-track download

strongohulkington, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

why do i see it as three tracks totaling 16 mins?

deej, Sunday, 8 April 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ahh never mind i found it

deej, Sunday, 8 April 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

Just finished listening to Galaxy 2 Galaxy. I don't like everything on the records, but when it hits, it hits like a ton of bricks.

I have to give it up for Hi-Tech Jazz. It takes the whole deep house sound set and takes the form and lays down a sampler horn part than just screams I am somebody. Everything on that track is perfect, programming, writing, arrangements. Love the 808 perc breaks and the acidline break has to be one of the best acid lines in dance music. I loved the way he used it to play a jazz solo that was a bitch to program.

Star Sailing and Metamorposis are great as well.

You have to respect Mike Banks. UR isn't consistent, but when it is good it is the best ever.

Display Name, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Galaxy to Galaxy - the most beautiful, emotive, otherworldly record I have ever heard
-- Spreadlove, Wednesday, September 4, 2002 7:47 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

I don't know if it is the greatest, but it is near the top of the list.

Display Name, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i would like to say that "Backroad to Nirvana" off the waveforms EP is probably one of the best techno songs ever.

the table is the table, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I have never sewn my precious UR patch ("sonic warfare division", motherfuckers!) anywhere but the day I find the right garment you can be sure I'll be wearing it front & center every day I can!

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it was mentioned above (or somewhere) but this newest one by Mad Mike also finds him in great form.

matt2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

anybody else at the water txi beach sets this past saturday? fucking sick shit. i was covered in sweat and sand and marijuana smoke by the end of the night.

the table is the table, Monday, 13 August 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

UR on the cover of "the wire"??

WTF

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

great. now my UR feature in the crappy DJ magazine i write for will be seen as pathetic.

is the article any good?

also, not that surprising. UR is name-dropped A LOT nowadays.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

(btw, i don't think my article's pathetic)

the table is the table, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

What crappy DJ magazine is your article in table? I'm interested in it.

matt2, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, i'd rather hear what you have to say than someone on the cover of wire. keep writing!

elan, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

should be out on news-stands within 2 weeks. anyway, it is called Big Shot Magazine (you can buy it online at bigshotmag.com, or if you happen to be in NYC, i know that Kim's, Turntable Lab and Halcyon usually carry new issues).

my article is more an introduction to the group for those uninitiated, and then a long-ass interview with Nomadico (aka DJ Dex), who is really one of the sickest DJs i've ever seen. the interview is where the good shit is.

anyway, yeah.

the table is the table, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

UR on the cover of the Wire is a nice turnaround for that magazine.

moley, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

what is unfortunate is that the rest of the magazine is still kinda meh. the UR feature is pretty well-written, tho.

the table is the table, Monday, 29 October 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, also, i'm just going to post the interview part of my article here right now. enjoy.

Today, UR is on its seventy-second release, with a back catalogue running the gamut along genres, including electro-funk, techno, and what UR has termed 'hi-tech jazz.' Among the newer arrivals at UR headquarters is Nomadico (aka DJ Dex), an LA transplant whose skills on the decks are unparalleled and whose productions range from breakbeats to hard techno. Big Shot correspondant Thomas Rees caught up with Nomadico at two recent sets in New York City, and a few weeks later, the following conversation took place via e-mail.

BIG SHOT: First off, how did you get into DJing and producing, and how did you eventually come to be a member of the UR crew?

NOMADICO: I got into DJing from an interest in recording audio growing up as a kid in Los Angeles. I was about 11 or 12 years old when I got my first tape recorder, and my interest in recording sounds started from there. I remember being really excited about being able to capture songs from the radio, recording conversations and also taking apart the tape recorder to understand how it worked.

In high school I joined a DJ crew with some horrible name... I think we were called "High Fidelity" or something corny like that. We did birthday parties, wedding receptions, high school dances, and of course our own backyard house parties. I got into collecting and studying all types of music from the hip-hop, house and techno records I bought for DJing. I also listened to jazz, classical, and rock. I worked at a record store for 3 or 4 years while in college.

I first heard Detroit hits like "Clear", "Technicolor", "Good Life" and "Big Fun" on 1580 KDAY in L.A. The KDAY Mixmasters were like Detroit's MOJO or The Wizard.

As I got older I was aware of the second and third generation of Detroit producers. By the time I was in my early 20s I was collecting UR, Planet-E, M-Plant, KMS and so on. I was also part of what seemed like only a handful of people in L.A. that really knew anything about Detroit Techno. Another guy was Santiago Salazar (aka DJ S2, a UR member). Santiago had been ordering directly from Submerge Records for a few years by the time I met him. Santiago had talked to Mad Mike and stayed in touch with him after looking out for some Detroiters who were visiting L.A.

About a year after getting my university degree, Santiago told me he was moving to Detroit to help Submerge start up at a new building they had bought in Detroit and wondered if I was interested in going as well.

By this time I'd had several internships and jobs at record labels, music magazines and radio stations. I knew enough about the mainstream music business to know that it wasn't for me. After these experiences, the opportunity to work for an inner city business with musicians I respected was the right move for me. So, in early 2002 I packed up and left L.A. and went to Detroit to work at Submerge and enrolled in UR techno theory 101 instructed by Mad Mike.

BIG SHOT: You do a lot of work in various sub-genres of electronic music. How do you feel about the stratification that sometimes happens along genre lines, like a techno head dismissing all d'nb, or the opposite? Do you feel like one of your goals is to open listeners' ears a bit?

NOMADICO: Music serves a different purpose for everybody, so if they choose to fixate on one genre over another that is their choice. I've always found more inspiration in listening to all types of music. As a DJ, I love mixing up various genres, but when I'm producing, I usually think in terms of song structure and tempo, not genres. If its gets classified as electro, detroit techno or technohophouse - it really doesn't matter to me.

BIG SHOT: Techno, as a music, certainly plays a huge role in contemporary music history, but at times, it seems like its roots in the black community aren't recognized enough. How do you feel about this?

NOMADICO: That is a difficult situation for the originators and it is important to correct within the realm of academic music history. Fortunately, some of these guys are still around and making a point to let people know what's up. Juan Atkins is now touring with Model 500 and working on new music. Derrick May is out promoting his "High Tech Soul" vision of Techno. Larry Heard still drops a record or two a year that lets everybody know he's the man.

It has always been easy for anyone to point fingers and say the American mainstream music business is biased towards minorities that don't want to be thugs or spend 40 hours a week in the gym so that someone else can produce the music. That's all true, but I don't believe artists should wait for big business to catch on to what we are doing. I mean look at them now. The majors are pissing their pants now because a little mp3 file has corrupted their operating system. They made a fatal error by thinking it wasn't a threat 10 years ago. They can keep trying to figure that out.

As an independent artist in 2007, I'm concerned with producing for existing supporters who are already on the cutting edge and growing from there. That is actually what really interested me about UR to begin with. In 20 years UR has established a swarm of intelligent supporters that look beyond archaic stereotypes. We've known this for years, so there isn't this ridiculous detachment between celebrity artist and the unknown fan.

The irony in all of this is that technology is on our side. Anyone interested can read about Web 2.0 and longtail theory and they'll understand what I'm talking about.

BIG SHOT: Do you feel like there's been an upswing in interest in techno in the past couple of years? Obviously all such things comes in waves, but where do you see/hear techno in a few years? What about UR?

NOMADICO: Yeah, there is definitely an upswing and it is naturally part of another wave.

At the moment the business is in utter chaos, everyone is excited and scared of technology at the same time. This idea of a "finished track" is disappearing for a lot of people.

In 10 years DJs won't buy tracks anymore, they'll belong to virtual communities that exchange music based on stylistic preferences.
An artist's economic value won't be tied to individual songs anymore, but rather the ability to consistently satisfy the listener's limitless demand for music that is simultaneously new yet familiar.

BIG SHOT: Any new projects for you and UR coming up?

NOMADICO: My Nomadico EP was just released on UR this summer. I have a remix for New York's NuBlu Orchestra that will be released in November 2007. I just moved apartments and need to get my studio back in working order!! As for UR, it's a moving target-- only Mad Mike knows what is next.

the table is the table, Monday, 29 October 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i had some space constraints so i had to edit parts of the interview out, but...

if you don't know Dex's work, his records on UR are very very ill.

the table is the table, Monday, 29 October 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

is it really only 72?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

In 10 years DJs won't buy tracks anymore, they'll belong to virtual communities that exchange music based on stylistic preferences. An artist's economic value won't be tied to individual songs anymore, but rather the ability to consistently satisfy the listener's limitless demand for music that is simultaneously new yet familiar.

What does this mean?? arrgh so tantalizing

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

as of when the article was written, yep. they just came out with a string of new releases.

the table is the table, Monday, 29 October 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

like the new skurge record, which is also quite ill. very in sync with his djing style, too.

the table is the table, Monday, 29 October 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

so, i've been thinking about UR a lot recently, and i think that one of the more major developments is that their newer talent/crew members are repping the group just as much as the older heads, putting out great records and spinning masterfully. not to rep my interview too much, but S2, Skurge and particularly Dex are tearing it up like the best of the UR heads. the 'invisible showcase' mix that Dex put out is evidence of this.

anyway, i was talking about it with one of the dudes at halcyon, and i thought it kind of an interesting shift in the UR catalog/culture.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Nomadico is from LA? I wansn't going up there that often in 2002 but I was paying attention to what was going on and I don't remember seeing him on lineups that much. I'll be bummed if he was playing all the time and I missed it. S2 (santiago salazar) has moved back here, though, so I get to see him often now. A great dude and producer.

sous les paves, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 06:11 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

where's the love for Electronic Warfare 2.0 - The Other Side Of Bling? http://www.discogs.com/release/1003881

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 14 December 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Just discovered "Timeline" like a week ago, thanks to this clip of certainly impressive dancing to Timeline sped up to 170 or so BPM.

Wonderful track.

Girlfriend, you've been scooped like ice cream (mehlt), Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link

uptown churl, Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link

so great

uptown churl, Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

theres no UR compilation you can buy is there?

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 7 August 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

what are you talking about, there are plenty

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 7 August 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

take your pick

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 7 August 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i highly recommend "depth charge 1", "noctorbulous behavior - the mix" and "a hi tech jazz compilation"

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 7 August 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

oh and the "aztec mystic mix"

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 7 August 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

anything mixed by Dex is the bizness, he is fucking awesome.

nice! he have the balls to say the truth! (the table is the table), Friday, 7 August 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Or track down the amaaaaaaazing mix The Black Dog did for Resident Advisor that's completely UR. Best RA mix I've ever heard.

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Saturday, 8 August 2009 07:50 (fourteen years ago) link

that one's free!

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Saturday, 8 August 2009 07:50 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

i am gonna rep again for the virtually free in any record store THE HOSTILE AMUSH 12", because really, "Ambush" is just one of the deepest techno tracks of all time.

The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link

The new WPA record is hot.

the muddy waters of donk (Display Name), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 09:39 (fourteen years ago) link

ATTN: UR fanatics, can you help me ID a UR song? It's on the all-UR Black Dog RA podcast, at around 18:44 between "In or Out" and "Death Of My Neighborhood", there's some sort of beepy ringing sound going on that sounds reminiscent of a telephone, and I can't figure out if it's a bit from another song or if it's just some weird sound Black Dog added themselves. I'm pretty certain the song in question isn't "Maroon" like all the tracklists say

This object perpetually attempts to sell itself on eBay. (Stevie D), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

weird that i'm answering this now, stevie, but could that be Dopplereffekt?

anyway, interviewed Rolando (aka the Aztec Mystic) today. he was very nice, though a bit reluctant to talk about the old times (he's no longer associated with UR or Submerge).

bun fun times infinity (the table is the table), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

and again that Nocturbulous Behaviour mix-cd by Suburban Knight is excellent, collects a lot of U.R. classics in one mix.

raining acid at my place right about now

Tim F, Saturday, 13 December 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Is it worth dropping a whole bunch of money on the galaxy 2 galaxy double cd compilation (I already have the repressed world to world and galaxy 2 galaxy 12" inches for what it's worth)? This is a weird case of seeing it on sale, priced appropriately, but in a country where cds are v. expensive all across the board.

ed.b, Thursday, 5 February 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link

no, not really worth it if you have the 12s

the late great, Thursday, 5 February 2015 06:49 (nine years ago) link


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