Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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not just the press of course, the government is completely on board too

ufo, Monday, 7 June 2021 10:06 (two years ago) link

This is two years old but I just came across it.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/society-and-culture/with-cancel-culture-political-correctness-has-indeed-gone-mad

"With โ€œcancel cultureโ€ political correctness has indeed gone mad".

the pinefox, Monday, 7 June 2021 10:10 (two years ago) link

Former music journalists are bad vibes man.

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) June 6, 2021

the pinefox, Monday, 7 June 2021 10:44 (two years ago) link

I listened to the
You're Wrong About episode on Political Correctness yesterday which was pretty interesting. Hadn't quite taken in that the term's original usage was either a derogatory external descriptive or an ironic one used by people who were aware of the irony. But that goes into where it came from and how the idea was mainly abused. Had just viewed it as something that never worked because it ignored the dynamic nature of exchanges and people being aware of ironies so a kneejerk set of rules was absolutely wrong but it addressed an existing problem. Just seems to have been a label pinned on people who were quite happy with the abuse

Stevolende, Monday, 7 June 2021 11:02 (two years ago) link

'fuck Stonewall' is a no when the right-wing press are trying to beat them up rn.

Otm. Am watching developments with dismay. Especially that anyone is listening to Matthew Parris, and the realisation that this waste of space still has some influence in the Tory party.

Finding columnists very annoying at the moment and sure there is worse to come (I can guess that both Suzanne Moore and Julie Burchill will be preparing columns, both saying โ€œsee - I told you I was right!โ€

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 7 June 2021 11:17 (two years ago) link

Parris is critical of the current PM, with no effect - so I suppose his influence is actually limited.

Burchill has created another scandal-storm with bad comments about the latest royal baby.

the pinefox, Monday, 7 June 2021 11:41 (two years ago) link

ok i withdraw the stonewall comment for the time being but i will never forgive the likes of PT for helping enable this

Left, Monday, 7 June 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link

pretty unhappy about every part of this btw

Left, Monday, 7 June 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

PT = Peter Tatchell?

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 7 June 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

yes

there are reasons i haven't paid attention to the org for years, it seems to have changed for the better & i understand that the current attack is about more than just the org

i am uncomfortable having to certain things for strategic reasons but it's where we are at now

Left, Monday, 7 June 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

I wish I hadn't posted any of this

Left, Monday, 7 June 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

to cleanse the timeline

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 7 June 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

I can't remember if you can blame these cringe wankers for the rise of face-paint, jester hats and Roger Nouveau type wankers like Kieth re-inventing themselves as lifelong Gooners. But fuck it - I will.

calzino, Monday, 7 June 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

I was living in London in '96 during this.. this special cultural moment of national unity when a load of pissed up/coked up thugs (who thought England were entitled to win all games/all competitions) trashed all the shops around Trafalgar Square and even when I'd got back home to Plumstead they were throwing pint glasses about and bricking cars and house windows!

calzino, Monday, 7 June 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

thatโ€™s beautiful man

The ๐Ÿ’จ that shook the barlow (wins), Monday, 7 June 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

ok i withdraw the stonewall comment for the time being but i will never forgive the likes of PT for helping enable this

oh yeah tatchell is fucking terrible for all sorts of reasons & the guardian quoting someone as controversial as him as their 'pro-trans' voice in that article is no doubt a deliberate move

ufo, Monday, 7 June 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

Calzino, I was living in Woolwich and watching Euro 96 -- we were only a couple of miles apart!

the pinefox, Monday, 7 June 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link

I moved from Conway road, Plumstead to Woolwich to .. I can't remember the road name but it was across the road from some blocks of flats and around the corner from Blockbusters and Safeways. We may have even walked past each other. I wasn't watching Euro '96, as a plastic paddy republican 4 life. I'd just done an evening shift at Camden rd Sainsburies that night and saw all the broken glass and mayhem from a bus.

calzino, Monday, 7 June 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

Blockbusters in Woolwich was right on General Gordon Square, the main square with the old Woolwich building and next to Woolwich Arsenal station - wasn't it?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 05:47 (two years ago) link

yep, but when I do streetview it all looks different now and I think where I lived was definitely Anglesea Rd. I recognise the blocks of flats that were across the road but the Victorian terrace row I lived in has been demolished and some dreary looking redbrick houses must have put up late 90's/early 00's.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 07:26 (two years ago) link

emma beddington

dogs, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

The correction to this headline is even less accurate than the original. pic.twitter.com/terKnuDpvE

— slakieth (@akehhsbnak) June 9, 2021

uncritical support for Kieth is "mainstream" now?

calzino, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 11:36 (two years ago) link

his current approval rating seems to suggest otherwise.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link

Appalling headlines.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link

it reminds me of how negative coverage of Bernie in the US would often cite "Mainstream Democrats" rather than refer to them as the right-wing of the party.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 12:22 (two years ago) link

I solemny declare: If anyone claims Ulysses is one of his favorite novels I will smile at him, pretend to go for another beer, turn away and never talk to him again (and yes: I read it).

— Sebastian Halm (@SebastianHalm) June 9, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link

Father, husband, journalist

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link

what is this person's deal exactly, apart from being a smug prick?

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

'solemny' feels like an accidentally cool coinage

imago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

awash in solemny, he declared his piece

imago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

A solemnycism.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

1 weird trick to get this cunt to leave you alone

The ๐Ÿ’จ that shook the barlow (wins), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

If anyone claims Ulysses is one of his favorite novels I will smile at him, pretend to go for another beer, turn away and never talk to him again

Fucking fuck right off.

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

He can't spell favourite either.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

Utterly vile.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

I feel a bit bad because this guy only has around as many followers as me, he doesn't seem to be a huge public figure, but if there's a way to wind me up in a single tweet... oof.

emil.y, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

I love that he has put up this tweet, got one approving comment, then continued with his day, unaware that an entire message board is talking about how much they hate him.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

his favourite film

Hot Fuzz is my favorite movie. And horror is my favorite genre. And Anya Taylor-Joy the most exciting young actress working today. You can count me in for @lastnightinsoho, @edgarwright - this seems ridiculously promising!

— Sebastian Halm (@SebastianHalm) May 27, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link

wow this guy has really unconventional taste for a this guy

Lage Lage Lage Shooting (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

he's similar to a lot of Left Twitter probably. massively ignorant about world cinema and has wretched taste in movies!

calzino, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link

lol you're all just irate at a German dad now, surely the Guardian has enough hateful shite on its roster that we don't need to get angry at its reply guys?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

if there is a steady flow of hatred on vocals and contempt is on the bongos, the it's a successful ilx thread!

calzino, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

ILX is the drubber of German Dad

The ๐Ÿ’จ that shook the barlow (wins), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

lock thread

mark s, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

request unrelated to recent posts, just a helpful general suggestion

mark s, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

ulysses is so good

plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

a classic i would say

plax (ico), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

queen Victoria? Old hag with the yellow teeth. Vieille ogresse
with the dents jaunes. Maud Gonne, beautiful woman, La Patrie, M.
Millevoye, Felix Faure, know how he died? Licentious men.

— Ulysses Reader (@UlyssesReader) June 7, 2021

I've been taking it in piecemeal from the best account on twitter

calzino, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link


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