didn’t we know bob was pretty influential in the front office already? I had assumed he had a hand in all the moves.
i had not really assumed this!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
i had not assumed, for example, that he had power to make draft picks over the objections of the scouting dept.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
noted haralabos voulgaris reply guy kevin keller here to assure us this is all no big deal and not a hilarious tale of hubris
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
he thought he was better than every gm and now that he got a shot the franchise player cant stand to see him move his hand LMAO
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
hes telling rick carlisle what to do, rick carlisle!
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
hes convinced noted billionaire dipshit mark cuban that hes using artificial intelligence to solve basketball problems
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link
LOL
I'm not a gambler at all, but I don't see the skills making you a good GM (talent evaluation, salary cap, player analytics, roster fit) necessarily are the same as those analyzing whether team x will beat team y in a given game by z points.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
idk maybe they are
also... people skills lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link
I hear that's important.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link
one thing we know about cuban is that he's very very bad at the "human" part of running a franchise so that he would hire and empower someone who treats his coworkers poorly can't be considered surprising in any way shape or form. i liked this thing hollinger wrote on the athletic recently about GMing:
Running a team also is about keeping 20 different balls in the air at the same time — keeping tabs on your own team, yes, but also watching 29 other NBA teams, talking to their front offices and understanding their cap situations, scouting college players, keeping tabs on the G League, trying to work in some overseas trips to see talent, yammering on the phone with the owner, dealing with agents and hiring staff for positions you barely knew existed (What do you mean the team chef took another job? How do I get a new one?)
a guy like haralabob -- or sam hinkie -- thinks that GMing is just using computers to identify market inefficiencies in player acquisition but that's actually a fairly small part of the job
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link
in fairness to bob i do think he has some pretty good ideas about basketball and i think his analytics work was more wide-ranging than one might think. i did not object at all to the mavs bringing him on to be a key analytics guy but giving him any power over decisionmaking is....dumb.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link
analytics guys belong in the basement
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
all that said for what amounts to a hit piece on haralabob for having "near total control" of the franchise there aren't moves attributed to him in the article that turned out to be bad, except the acquisition of delon wright? josh green and tyrell terry were reasonable picks based on where ppl had them ranked pre-draft
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
are they... good?
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
they have had a lot of good process bad outcome moves
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
green and terry were both rated as mid-round picks, terry they got in the second round. the mavs backcourt was pretty crowded so it's not crazy that neither of them played that much. saadiq bey could've helped them but not hitting on the no 18 pick is pretty mild on the list of NBA front office sins
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
the article completely eliding the decision making process that led to seth curry for josh richardson is a red flag to me
luka seems like a diva btw, not that it should be unexpected given how good he is/has been at such a young age. but he gets mad at rick carlisle for his use of timeouts and for calling plays?
regardless pissing off the franchise player when you are a nerd suit is an oops
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link
thinking that someone who is their own boss in a situation thats 100% one channel results driven can just fit into a big role in a high pressure corporate org w lots of big personalities is a poor assumption
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link
cuban prob appreciated him for "telling it like it is" but that sort of bluntness and arrogance is prob not going to play that well for a bigger audience
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link
i def would ask for haralabob to not interact w/ my players ever otoh luka seems to make a lot of enemies
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
luka is just engaging in dark musings
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
also hard not to read this article as reflecting general mavs front office dysfunction, paranoia, and failure
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link
luka is 1000% a diva but he's good enough that he's allowed to be
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link
also maybe the people he hates suck, something to consider
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
i mean just as long as he doesnt start gming like lebron its probably manageable
wait what did you guys think haralabob was doing? film room assistant?
― k3vin k., Monday, 14 June 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
i did not think about it at all
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/6PlNkST.png
I mean it’s still a good story as far as the luka stuff goes, you gotta be on good terms with your MVP candidate that’s like front office 101, but all the rest of that stuff is either embellished or not surprising. imho!
― k3vin k., Monday, 14 June 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link
i didn't know haralabob was out here making draft picks but also i'm not sure that part is even true
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link
the only thing i think we can be sure of is there is at least one person in the mavs org attempting to assassinate him
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
haha yes
― k3vin k., Monday, 14 June 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
We have all taken our shots at Monty, but this is just brutal. pic.twitter.com/bCueiOYHZh— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) November 13, 2014
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, June 14, 2021 1:40 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
hallelujah
ESPN story on NBA's Competition Committee meeting Monday to push closer to recommendations that'll eliminate foul calls for unnatural motions on jump shots: https://t.co/XrsyKJLbyM— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 14, 2021
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
the ones i hate the most are when defenders are trying to navigate around a screen above the three point line and the offensive player waits until there's this jumble of bodies and then jumps into the defender drawing a three shot foul. middleton did the other day and got a 4 point play out of it, watching two free throws is bad but lemme tell you what's worse watching three free throws
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link
lets do away with (most) charges too while we're at it
― Spottie, Monday, 14 June 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link
i also think “illegal screen” basically shouldn’t exist
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 June 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link
they call them so inconsistently
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 June 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
had not heard rumblings of this
ESPN Sources with @_Andrew_Lopez: After one season, Stan Van Gundy is out as the New Orleans Pelicans coach.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 16, 2021
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
teams should try hiring good coaches
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
wow mustve been major static with the players
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link
come back to the booth, stan!
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
they are already freaking the f out about zion leaving
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
yeah maybe he and his brother can trade places
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
the david griffin era… yikes
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 16 June 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link