i guess this is the price you pay for having the best 22 year old player in the world
There had been simmering tension between Luka Doncic and Rick Carlisle that was a concern within the Mavs organization. The expectation was that he'd return next season, but he'd have been on the hot seat. https://t.co/YRJ1fwQ6GQ— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 17, 2021
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
seems like the celtics are intent on going after someone more in the young black ex player range but who knows
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
Luka Doncic is a strong supporter of Mavs assistant coach Jamahl Mosley. “He’s got the things that are needed for a head coach," Doncic said after Mosely's one-game fill-in for a win over the Knicks this season. "He can be the head coach, for sure.”— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 17, 2021
i think carlisle is prob the best coach in the game but hes not exactly a players coach and thats dicey these days
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
"he can be the head coach, for sure, instead of the guy who is currently the coach, who i don't like, theoretically speaking, of course"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link
luka divadoncic
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link
lol
Rick Carlisle really told Mark Cuban, “and for that reason, I’m out”— Paolo Uggetti (@PaoloUggetti) June 17, 2021
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link
wonder if any teams are getting knocked out tonight that may be in need of a head coach
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 June 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link
We had an argument about the organizational merits of the Dallas Mavericks about 2 weeks ago
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
lol its true
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link
makes too much sense carlisle is the master of making weird pieces fit
Carlisle had two years left on his contract in Dallas, but there are five other coaching openings in the NBA and possibly more forthcoming. He'll easily land another job.Rumblings about Milwaukee as a destination -- IF the Bucks make a change -- have been circulating for weeks.— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 17, 2021
tbh not very unusual for a star to win a power struggle over a coach even if the coach is rick carlisle. ask the spurs whether they’d rather have let kawhi win that organizational power struggle
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link
the chances are pretty high that the mavs are playing as a top 4 seed in the west by dec/jan next year and this is all just remembered as some fun offseason drama, which it is
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:41 (two years ago) link
idk would not want to be the coach who has to make this mavs roster work as well as carlisle did
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link
btw listening to tim macmahon on zach lowes pod rn thats how bad i want the dirt "mavs front office has been a mess for a while" "mark cuban is the mavs gm, makes all the basketball decisions"
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
"chandler parsons had cubans ear for a while" lmao
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
wow lagooon breaking his code and listening to a podcast??? hella thirsty for the dramz
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
im saying
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
says everyone except cuban hates bob voulgaris
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
the podcast is rly good. chandler pardons having decision making power is incredible
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
i’ve realized one of the most important qualifications you can have as an aspiring NBA GM is being named donnie
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
from the pod
Luka yelled at Carlisle in the middle of a game once “who’s in charge, you or Bob?”— Azaz (@AzazNYK) June 17, 2021
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link
cuban being a meddling owner has always been pretty much implicit
― ciderpress, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link
yeah
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link
feed me the drama I need it
― k3vin k., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link
Mark Cuban hired a Twitter goon who forced out a top 5 coach. To me this is not a great situation
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
haven’t listened to the lowe pod yet but my impression is that it was the tension with luka that got carlisle to leave, the haralabob thing seems related and not great but not in a direct way maybe
― k3vin k., Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link
theres a lot we dont know about how this all went down and i would like to know it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
the atheltic:
After 16 years as the head of the Dallas Mavericks’ front office, from Dirk Nowitzki’s one-of-a-kind run to the Luka Doncic era that has shown so much similar promise, Nelson had begun to wonder if he was truly in charge of the team’s roster or coaching staff anymore. But when he relayed these fears to owner Mark Cuban, sharing his growing belief that Haralabos Voulgaris, the former professional gambler who served as the team’s director of quantitative research and development, was encroaching on his influence over personnel moves and strategy, the course correction that he’d never hoped for arrived.
Nelson had wanted Voulgaris to stay in his proverbial lane, to avoid overstepping the bounds of his role and focus on being a trusted adviser to Cuban whose analytics-based views would always be taken into account. Dallas would have preferred to project stability ahead of a crucial summer in which Doncic was eligible for a supermax contract extension he indicated a desire to sign. Instead, within the front office, there was turmoil and dysfunction.
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As one rival team executive shared Wednesday, there were times when talking to the Mavericks about trade possibilities meant inevitable confusion. Nelson would paint one picture, so to speak, discussing the possible pieces and players involved in an attempt to get a deal done. But Voulgaris, who this rival executive said had talked to his team simultaneously about a particular deal, would tell a different story. And because Voulgaris was widely known to have a direct line to Cuban, this dynamic was seen by Nelson as damaging to his credibility. When asked over the phone about this assertion on Wednesday, Cuban refuted the idea that Voulgaris had negatively impacted the process.
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link
would be funny if it turns out haralabob nuked the entire mavs org
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link
hey fellows I’ve had a busy few days is anything interesting or dare I hope fabulously dramatic happening in the nba
― Clay, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link
the National Bdrama Association
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link
steve kerr is the third longest tenured coach in the NBA
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 June 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
wow
The Celtics are trading Kemba Walker, the No. 16 overall pick in the 2021 draft and a 2025 second-round draft pick to Oklahoma City for Al Horford, Moses Brown and a 2023 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link
horf back lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link
no doubt okc will rehab kemba and get more picks back for him in a year
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
celtics have 4 centers
Weird trade. Is that just to trade the Kemba contract for the shorter Horford contract?
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Friday, 18 June 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link
might just be mostly honoring kembas trade request, also they love horf and yeah shorter contractalso moses brown lit the celtics up when they played late last year perhaps a danger of coach turned gm idk hes also that weird bball biomechanics twitter guys big success story lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link
hopefully this will be the first step in moving past the tristan thompson era
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link
deep cap analytics
You can't have this be part of the calculation on what is a good contract for Fournier and if he returns now, but if they don't re-sign him I'll be annoyed because had they not traded for him, this trade would have created a new Kemba-sized TPE in a season where Beal may move.— Ryan Bernardoni AC⚡️AB (@dangercart) June 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link
Proposed Kemba and No. 16 for Horford trade on MassLive last week with a full breakdown: https://t.co/obtqQx88W5 pic.twitter.com/6ytrqEiBno— Brian Robb (@BrianTRobb) June 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link
didnt realize horfs contract was that favorable
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:33 (two years ago) link
brad is online
― k3vin k., Friday, 18 June 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link
activate... brad
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
Is Al gonna come back, retire as a player, and become the coach?
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
player coach lets do this
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link
horf really does have coach vibes its true, im on board with the retirement coach plan, great from a cap pov too
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link
I think he'd be a great coach. Plus the young stars look up to him already.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
its an ingenious idea, tip o the cap 2 u
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 June 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link