2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

no doubt okc will rehab kemba and get more picks back for him in a year

celtics have 4 centers

Weird trade. Is that just to trade the Kemba contract for the shorter Horford contract?

might just be mostly honoring kembas trade request, also they love horf and yeah shorter contract

also moses brown lit the celtics up when they played late last year perhaps a danger of coach turned gm idk hes also that weird bball biomechanics twitter guys big success story lol

hopefully this will be the first step in moving past the tristan thompson era

deep cap analytics

You can't have this be part of the calculation on what is a good contract for Fournier and if he returns now, but if they don't re-sign him I'll be annoyed because had they not traded for him, this trade would have created a new Kemba-sized TPE in a season where Beal may move.

— Ryan Bernardoni AC⚡️AB (@dangercart) June 18, 2021

Proposed Kemba and No. 16 for Horford trade on MassLive last week with a full breakdown: https://t.co/obtqQx88W5 pic.twitter.com/6ytrqEiBno

— Brian Robb (@BrianTRobb) June 18, 2021

didnt realize horfs contract was that favorable

brad is online

activate... brad

Is Al gonna come back, retire as a player, and become the coach?

player coach lets do this

horf really does have coach vibes its true, im on board with the retirement coach plan, great from a cap pov too

I think he'd be a great coach. Plus the young stars look up to him already.

its an ingenious idea, tip o the cap 2 u

is brad gonna be like doc and keep getting his former guys back

lol

OH COME ON https://t.co/zDN2kqDJwC

— Hunter Felt (@HunterFelt) June 18, 2021

hahaha

well they got it done, this was always what the shape of a kemba trade was going to look like. sucks to have to keep moving picks to turn over these bad veteran contracts.

seems like presti gave brad a sweetheart deal to me. they only had to trade a mid first to get off kemba’s deal and they got back moses brown who the thunder signed to one of those crazy cheap borderline amoral lu dort style contracts

deal seems pretty fair to me tho yeah mo brown could swing it the celtics way, okc will prob rehab kemba and get more picks for him in six months lol

cuban looking for familiar comfort

Former Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki tells @NYTSports that he is rejoining the organization as special advisor.

Nowitzki's first assignment at the request of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban: Assisting the team in its search for a new head of basketball operations and then coach.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 18, 2021

dirk loves the mavs

At Mark Cuban’s request, Dirk Nowitzki, Michael Finley and a select group of trusted, longtime staffers met with him yesterday to discuss the franchise’s path forward. https://t.co/F37kzgpa9Z

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 18, 2021

the celtics cleared $32m in cap space and all they had to do was give up a pick that is at best a coin flip to return even a solid rotation player. or looking at it the other way, the thunder are paying $32m for a coin flip’s chance at getting a solid rotation player. seems like a great deal for boston

thunder just dont care about the salary they prob even need to to reach the floor but they do love draft picks lol, its true that a mid first might be slightly below market for taking that on but i think its in the ballpark of normal

it’s not that dissimilar from the deal where OKC acquired horford, but in that one the sixers gave up a 2025 first. i’m surprised the thunder agreed to take back a pick that is locked into 18 & also still not sure why they had to give up moses brown for the privilege of taking on one of the more onerous contracts in the league

i guess part of their calculation is that kemba will opt out of the final year of his deal to get out of there if they can’t trade him but that assumes good health at minimum from him

the pick is 16 fwiw, idk the deal seems pretty normal, maybe the thunder really like this years draft or just figured its the lowest the celtics are likely to be in the next few years, the contracts are the same length and comparable this year then next year if the celtics decide to cut horf his contract is about half as much as kemba, kinda doubt the thunder are banking on kemba opting out tho it may end up making sense for him

maybe the celtics dont even cut horf but having the flexibility is nice and it will be some sort of super expiring contract next year which is good for trades not quite sure how it factors into the celtics getting brad beal tho

moses brown apparently not valued highly by either team

Some things I'm hearing in the aftermath of the Kemba deal:
-Cs feel better about their chances of re-signing Fournier now
-This doesn't necessarily mean Tristan Thompson's time in Boston is over
-Moses Brown was mostly added as a salary match but will get a look

— Adam Himmelsbach (@AdamHimmelsbach) June 18, 2021

insanity

After Kemba trade, OKC projected to pick at 4, 16, 18, 35, 36, 55, + possibility Thunder steal Rockets pick if it drops to #5

— Jonathan Wasserman (@NBADraftWass) June 18, 2021

if they get 4 and 5 in this draft my lord

pelton:

This trade is yet another example of Thunder executive vice president and general manager Sam Presti getting first-round picks on both ends of a trade. Presti all but pioneered the move with Kurt Thomas, getting two first-round picks -- one of them used on Serge Ibaka -- to take his salary from the tax-avoiding Phoenix Suns in 2007 before getting a third from the San Antonio Spurs at the 2008 trade deadline.

Presti did it again with Chris Paul, who came with a bevy of first-round picks when acquired from the Houston Rockets and fetched one on his way to the Phoenix Suns. Now it's happened a third time with Horford.

As a refresher, Oklahoma City got a 2025 first-round pick from the 76ers (top-six protected) along with the rights to 2020 second-round pick Theo Maledon and international stash Vasilije Micic as payment for taking on Horford's contract in exchange for a package headlined by Danny Green. Surely, part of Presti's thinking was that the Thunder could rebuild Horford's value, and that's more or less what's happened.

Now, Oklahoma City gets yet another first-round pick -- the team's third in the 2021 draft to go along with the Thunder's own and one from the Miami Heat that could be swapped for the Houston Rockets' pick if that drops to No. 5 in next week's lottery -- to take on Walker's contract for Horford.

i'm not sure the thunder rebuilt horford's value as much as they just played a shell game of swapping his contract for someone else's worse contract bcuz they're not trying to win or spend money, but it was good business

yeah it was mostly just rolling bad contracts over but horf playing well this year was good too, if he had sucked as bad as he did in philly they prob wouldve had to keep him

admittedly did not see much of the thunder this year or was he a better player or just not in a system designed for him to fail

i thought horford retired like halfway through the season?

if i had to say it was the latter but still you want to see proof you know xp

expertly done by presti, horf played 28 games then was sat to preserve his value and let the team tank

wonder how shai feels about the thunder bringing in another lead guard in so that they can "rebuild his value"

doubt theyll do anything to get in the way of shai, plenty of minutes to go around, sure theyll keep kembas minutes down anyway as they did w horf, aging guys with injury histories and so forth

besides everyone loves kemba, good guy to have around

one thing about this deal is it makes resigning fournier easier from both a cap stand point and because they have a starting spot and more looks for him now which is good cause if they dont resign him they dont have much ability to go out and get another guy

do you want to resign fournier tho?

got to, hes a pretty good player, def limited by his lack of athleticism but he can ball

with all the good perimeter defenders the celtics have they should be able to hide him pretty well

Maybe Moses Brown is a Drummond type who compiles defensive stats while not actually helping much, but the guy is a great rebounder. I'd definitely kick the tires there.

yeah i like him he put up good numbers at the end of last year

luka back at it already

I have seen this before ;) pic.twitter.com/d75VB7kbeO

— Zoran Savin (@Zooox) June 18, 2021