I don't think Simmons and Embiid are particularly tight. After this season, Embiid's gotta be thinking, "I need to get this guy out of here before my knees give out." Maybe he forces the issue?
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Saturday, 19 June 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link
Hawks can’t buy a shot right now
― frogbs, Saturday, 19 June 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link
Embiid taking over, this is fun
― frogbs, Saturday, 19 June 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link
playoffs thread is thataway
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 June 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link
peyton pritchard isn’t a starting PG in the nba
― J0rdan S., Friday, June 18, 2021 9:43 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
not now and probably not ever
― call all destroyer, Friday, June 18, 2021 9:49 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
generally agree with this but on the other hand seth curry started a playoff game this evening
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link
yeah but seth curry has an elite skill. i think pritchard is a good back up PG, nice find at the end of the first round, but i don’t think he’s a starter
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 June 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link
seth is playing out of his mind but if he's "starter caliber" that's a relatively recent development
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 June 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link
i mean what is "a starter"
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link
yeah but seth curry has an elite skill.
― J0rdan S., Friday, June 18, 2021 9:56 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
pritchard is a shooter fwiw could easily end up as good on that measure as seth curry, shot 40+% this year on often not easy looks
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, June 18, 2021 10:01 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
there are guys who start and you feel good about it.....and then there are guys who start
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link
yeah but seth curry has an elite skill.― J0rdan S., Friday, June 18, 2021 9:56 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinkpritchard is a shooter fwiw could easily end up as good on that measure as seth curry, shot 40+% this year on often not easy looks
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link
no seriously thats what hes known for, and i mean were talking about seth curry here hes not that great
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link
he was hitting crazy shots all through college
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link
he was taking and making deep threes a bunch this season
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
off the dribble and so forth
yeah he could become a really really good shooter. it's the other parts of his game that probably have a ceiling.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link
i think he has good playmaking skills/instincts too, but hes also a small unathletic slow guy
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:13 (two years ago) link
nobody from the suburbs of portland is becoming a hot shot nba guy it’s just not a reality
― Clay, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link
re: okc, they have 39 picks over the next 7 years, avg of over 5 picks per draft.
if they get 4 and 5 in this draft my lord
― lag∞n, Friday, June 18, 2021 12:25 PM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
its even worse: if the rockets pick falls to 5 or below, thunders get it. okc could have 1 and 5. cade, kuminga, and shai would be a core.
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link
I woke up in the middle of the night and realized that there is one team that needs a point guard, has cap space to absorb a max contract, and would be out of the spotlight so Simmons could get his game back together: The New York Knickerbockers.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link
so close
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link
(the correct answer is the spurs)
https://i.imgur.com/hehRvPI.png
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/MFD7Zym.png
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link
poor myles must have been trending for the last 3+ years now
what are okc going to do with simmons ridiculous contract for the next 4 years tho. if they want a center who cant shoot there are plenty outside every lottery
― micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link
apparently simmons also has a 15% trade kicker ahahahha
― micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link
they should trade embiid instead then
― ciderpress, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link
Simmons description in Trade Machine is weird and also somehow accurate. I guess "ham-handed PG who wants his mommy" wouldn't fit.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link
― micah, Monday, June 21, 2021 9:18 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
can they grab and go on the fast break? guard 1-5? would likely be a devastating roll man if given a chance? simmons is a good player! with a rare and valuable skillset! he could be tall draymond! i am worried about his mindstate but kemba and a couple picks is a worthy risk, his contract is big so if he totally flames out its a problem true
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link
the thing amongst others that drives me crazy about simmons being a tall guy who cant shoot yet does not play center is his ball handling and passing skills would be so much more valuable there, centers dont usually have those skills so if you put a guy who does at center then youre team has a skill advantage, if you play him at point guard he is just another point guard who can dribble and pass except he cant score
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
this is all true also cavs would not do that trade and not sure the sixers would either
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link
maybe... but maybe not, also what about two firsts for nance
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link
idk i think the cavs are trying to win soon, i dont think theyre in "trade our best defender for future picks" zone yet but i cd be wrong, i dont follow that franchise
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link
yeah idk where the cavs are at but lets assume the sixers have to trade simmons which i think is not a bad assumption, i dont what the offers are going to look like, how much better than kemba and nance do they get, probably not that much better, conceivably not any better, possibly worse, that contract makes simmons a pretty big bet
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link
i don’t think the cavs know where the cavs are.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link
would the wizards take two of okcs firsts for beal? does beal want to go to the sixers?
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4Rh4eQXMAIiWlt?format=jpg&name=large
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link
i think the wizards could get better than two firsts
― micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ownmGuy.png
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link
that's something but it doens't seem right that philly only gives up simmons (negative value) and a low first to get back beal. maxey won't move the needle either
the other catch is that okc are in no rush to dump kemba whereas philly need to make a deal state
― micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 11:44 PM (fifteen minutes ago)
idk man. maybe if youre playing against old style teams with a big center. but with simmons at center youre playing small ball, and youre going to run into more and more teams who are also playing small ball but proper 5 out small ball where everyone can shoot
― micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
simmons can guard the 3pt line its no problem
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
okc would im sure be overjoyed to dump kemba, you want to talk about a contract that is actually underwater that is it
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link
I really like Maxey, but I would have to give that some deep thought.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link
if anything okc getting to dump kemba and getting simmons and maxey for two picks is just not enough
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link
wizards might prefer to just deal directly with philly simmons maxey and a pick for beal
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 12:10 AM (eight minutes ago)
yes but in this theoretical scenario his team would still be disadvantaged on offence
― micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link
Trading him now at his all-time low in value seems insane to me.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link
it does but not sure they have any choice, embiid calling him out in his press conference, fans hating him, its not good, and with the poor fit in philly are things really going to improve for him
― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link