2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

this is all true also cavs would not do that trade and not sure the sixers would either

maybe... but maybe not, also what about two firsts for nance

idk i think the cavs are trying to win soon, i dont think theyre in "trade our best defender for future picks" zone yet but i cd be wrong, i dont follow that franchise

yeah idk where the cavs are at but lets assume the sixers have to trade simmons which i think is not a bad assumption, i dont what the offers are going to look like, how much better than kemba and nance do they get, probably not that much better, conceivably not any better, possibly worse, that contract makes simmons a pretty big bet

i don’t think the cavs know where the cavs are.

would the wizards take two of okcs firsts for beal? does beal want to go to the sixers?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4Rh4eQXMAIiWlt?format=jpg&name=large

i think the wizards could get better than two firsts

https://i.imgur.com/ownmGuy.png

that's something but it doens't seem right that philly only gives up simmons (negative value) and a low first to get back beal. maxey won't move the needle either

the other catch is that okc are in no rush to dump kemba whereas philly need to make a deal state

the thing amongst others that drives me crazy about simmons being a tall guy who cant shoot yet does not play center is his ball handling and passing skills would be so much more valuable there, centers dont usually have those skills so if you put a guy who does at center then youre team has a skill advantage, if you play him at point guard he is just another point guard who can dribble and pass except he cant score

― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 11:44 PM (fifteen minutes ago)

idk man. maybe if youre playing against old style teams with a big center. but with simmons at center youre playing small ball, and youre going to run into more and more teams who are also playing small ball but proper 5 out small ball where everyone can shoot

simmons can guard the 3pt line its no problem

okc would im sure be overjoyed to dump kemba, you want to talk about a contract that is actually underwater that is it

I really like Maxey, but I would have to give that some deep thought.

if anything okc getting to dump kemba and getting simmons and maxey for two picks is just not enough

wizards might prefer to just deal directly with philly simmons maxey and a pick for beal

simmons can guard the 3pt line its no problem

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 12:10 AM (eight minutes ago)

yes but in this theoretical scenario his team would still be disadvantaged on offence

Trading him now at his all-time low in value seems insane to me.

it does but not sure they have any choice, embiid calling him out in his press conference, fans hating him, its not good, and with the poor fit in philly are things really going to improve for him

yes but in this theoretical scenario his team would still be disadvantaged on offence

― micah, Monday, June 21, 2021 10:22 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i dont think necessarily, if he can develop into a good role man then you can punish the other team for going small, like do you really want marcus morris trying to stop that, ayton cant shoot but he was a problem for the clips going small yesterday, just one of those classic matchup imposing your will battles that make the game interesting

his value might not even be an all time low, at least he is still young enough now to have some prospects for rehabilitation, if he still cant shoot a lick next season his value could tank... more

Why not fire Rivers first and see if that helps :)

Simmons can't handle Philly when the fans are uber positive trying to will him to make a FT. No way he can handle negative Philly.

feel like there's going to be a weird nexus where teams should only make buy-low offers but his perceived value/pedigree will make it hard for philly to accept a buy-low offer

xp even if you make the Big Shot, the glory fades, and they will tear you apart for a couple unsolved child murder cases left on your desk.

The Matisse of Easttown

philly people really some characters 😂but ben simmons gotta go pic.twitter.com/I5uBbxaKbd

— Sʜᴏᴘ Aɴɢᴇʟ Aʟʟᴜʀᴇ (@856si) June 21, 2021

Philly fans really selling themselves to the available nba talent in that video. should see them go negative.

philly fans to ben simmons

"crumbbum" lol

Give him the ol' 23 skidoo

philly fans do not play if you disappoint them for years on end they will straight up call you a crumbum

lol

100% FG%... pretty good!! lol

Ben Simmons 4th quarter this series:
Game 1: 2-2 FG
Game 2: 0-0 FG
Game 3: 1-1 FG
Game 4: 0-0 FG
Game 5: 0-0 FG
Game 6: 0-0 FG
Game 7: 0-0 FG

— Tom Haberstroh (@tomhaberstroh) June 21, 2021

Simmons better wear a helmet next year if he's still on the roster. They won't be dumping popcorn on the other team.

a helmet with a bowl on top, if the popcorn level exceeds the bowl's line, simmons may take all free throw points without shooting them.

if the popcorn gets into his shorts, he is declared a literal "crumb bum" and is forced to move somewhere with moderate weather

no playoffs, a sad day

wonder what ben simmons is doing

Listing his place in Philly I assume.

one. last. tomato pie.

draft lottery tonight big night for the timberwolves and rockets who will either get a likely very good to franchise altering player or nothing

someone's gonna move up like 8 places this year i can feel it

toronto getting cade would be sick

are they the best team in the lottery? has to be, right

i guess the warriors are in there

10% chance to get the 4 pick

https://nba.nbcsports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2021/06/Golden-State-Warriors.png

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/06/22/2021-nba-draft-lottery-odds-visualized/

lol

Rivers says he has plan, isn’t giving up on Simmons. Is plan to change shooting hand? https://t.co/51eBCMl3Lw

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) June 22, 2021

I was going to post that yesterday, but just dngaf. It's either spin (and Morey is going to trade him before the draft) or the entire Sixers organization is ready to bet their futures on Ben Simmons being able to shoot.

there's a possibility that's their best route though if his value is low enough