2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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theres that but also what if this is cutting their losses? if the problems are shooting/psychological and he continues to not progress and/or hilly continues using his reputation as a public toilet, that could tank his value even more.

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

they need to open their season on the road and he needs to hit five 3s in that season-opening game or something, in order for philly to be an environment where it is psychologically possible for him to build his value back up

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

he needs to give them enough of a spark that they can muster the hope to at least root for him

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

carlisle dropping a match on his way out the door

Rick Carlisle on his Mavs: "It's hard to put an exact finger on it. It’s just a feeling that I had that it would be mutually beneficial. My hope is that Jason Kidd will be the next coach of the Mavs because he and Luka have so many things in common as players."

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 24, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link

wtf, jesus

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

would think the 76ers want to try and build his value back up now. there couldnt be a worse time to trade him.

― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:29 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago)

yeah and w/ morey as GM they will have a very keen understanding of value

i think the issue is that you a. risk the rebuilding of value not happening and then have to make an in-season trade at the same value which will be even more difficult than trading him in the offseason b. he plays better and they get tricked into thinking he's improved and then we hit the playoffs and the fit doesn't work and they're back in the same spot a year from now w/ another wasted year of embiid

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

i don't get the shade in that quote involving kidd and luka? carlisle thanked kidd in his iphone resignation note it seems like he genuinely respects him

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

would think the 76ers want to try and build his value back up now. there couldnt be a worse time to trade him.

― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:29 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

theres that but also what if this is cutting their losses? if the problems are shooting/psychological and he continues to not progress and/or hilly continues using his reputation as a public toilet, that could tank his value even more.

― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:34 PM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they need to open their season on the road and he needs to hit five 3s in that season-opening game or something, in order for philly to be an environment where it is psychologically possible for him to build his value back up

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:35 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he needs to give them enough of a spark that they can muster the hope to at least root for him

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:36 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I am tired of hearing that the Sixers are selling low on Simmons, which assumes that he gets his shit together shoots >50% on FTs and maybe learns to shoot from outside 10ft. Let someone else figure this headcase out.

I am also willing to bet that keeping Simmons means losing Embiid.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

am i the only one confused as to why j kidd is a candidate for anything? domestic violence charges, ripping through six packs at work in milwaukee. i thought everyone kind of hated him

Heez, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

yeah it's not shade so much as that would not be a good move for dallas, or luka. carlisle might mean it sincerely though

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

If Embiid really wants to lose Simmons, he should probably catch him around the free throw line and then attempt to dribble him toward the basket.

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

I wish Dirk was interested in the job

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

dirk lacks gravitas imo, he's like a cross between arnold schwarzenegger and marmaduke

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

marmadirk

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link

i don't get the shade in that quote involving kidd and luka? carlisle thanked kidd in his iphone resignation note it seems like he genuinely respects him

― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:12 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

no shade, just a bad idea lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

my feeling is the sixers probably can find an offer that will allow them to let simmons go to start a new life, not a great offer but one that is like ok were probably not going to do better

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

The Dallas Mavericks are closing in on the hiring a new GM and Jason Kidd has emerged as a strong frontrunner to be hired as head coach, sources tell @espn_macmahon and me.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 24, 2021

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

amazing

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

did they not watch the pre-bud bucks? and buds not even good!

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

Luka is a bit young to be a coach killer, but he's always been ahead of the curve for his age.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link

very weird that woj is able to leak the name of the coach who is going to be hired by the GM before he can leak the name of the GM

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

Can we get a vibe check forecast on the 2021-22 Dallas Mavericks

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

the vibes are weird and dark baby

Clay, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:14 (two years ago) link

luka's last year of his rookie contract + very little in the way of tradable assets + THJ is a FA + no 1RP this year + domestic-abusing coaching washout + mark cuban still alive and making decisions = F+ vibes

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link

i think dallas has very quickly become my go-to villain franchise

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

plus they have zinger and will probably lose boban

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link

boban has to go back to philly and replace dwight for vibes restoration purposes

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

tobi and bobi need to be reunited true

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

i think the odds that they're playing as one of the 4 best teams in the west a few months into the season and nobody really cares about any of this stuff are pretty good

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

build the roster fam, how is that shit happening

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link

they were a top 5 seed this year, the nuggets will be w/o murray for most of the season, clippers may not have kawhi for most of the season, phoenix and utah were both extremely healthy this season. i don't think the mavs will get worse, not sure how much better they'll get but they're gonna bring back basically their entire team or use their cap space to replace hardaway. they also have one of the 5 best players in the NBA. it wouldn't take much for them to be top 4 in the west come january or w/e

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link

they are looking at a major coaching downgrade

lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link

The Mavs have one good player, a historically bad head coach and a front office in open turmoil

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:33 (two years ago) link

lakers and gs getting healthy, too, memphis internal improvement

class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:45 (two years ago) link

they were 5th but tied record with 6 PDX and 7 LAL. the west is only gonna get more competitive next year again. only two teams will be tanking to start (hou/okc). and no FA wants a part of dallas right now (have they ever?).

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:47 (two years ago) link

a lot hinges on if luka shows up engaged and in shape. they dug themselves a pretty big hole early this season.

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link

Let’s not forget Luka doesn’t like Zinger. Zinger seems like one of these guys who really needs his teammates to embrace playing to his strengths. Not saying he’s gonna go Full Ben Simmons but easy to imagine things falling apart for his role on the team in a pretty major way. That’s part of why Kidd is a bad idea - basketball mind aside, the dude seems to be a drama magnet

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

the margins separating a lot of these teams are going to be pretty thin as always in the west and the mavs have a top 5 player in the conference, there's plenty of scenarios where they're aren't playing as one of the top 4 seeds in the first half of the season but there's plenty of scenarios where they are, more than you guys are allowing

J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

ive taken DRAMATIC mod actions for this take

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:00 (two years ago) link

i do think it is really gross that they're hiring kidd given what we know about how women were treated in that organization. as a coach he'll prob be average or something, his teams were mostly above .500 in milwaukee and brooklyn and he'll have better talent in dallas, but they really should've had enough self awareness to avoid that one

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

mavs worst team in nba 2022 book it

Clay, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

I know I complain about Budenholzer a lot but he’s so much better than Kidd. You’re never gonna win a playoff series with that guy.

frogbs, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

damn the hand of the mod is swift and just

Clay, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/xSPbvVl.png

lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link

kidd was probably the worst coach in the league by the end of his milwaukee tenure

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

and the front office guy they are hiring is from nike

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2021 02:29 (two years ago) link

Jord picked a bad time to argue this is a world class organization. But a quick pivot is possible

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 03:56 (two years ago) link

can’t say the last 3 weeks have looked great for me but it’s all settled now and i believe in the macro trend of having luka doncic

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 04:11 (two years ago) link

my main memory of Kidd was that he would run the same defensive sets every single time, once the opposing team figured it out they could pretty much always get a guy open from 3 which is why the Bucks gave up like 120 pts/game despite having some pretty great defenders

frogbs, Friday, 25 June 2021 04:18 (two years ago) link

According to @JeremyWoo: "The Cavaliers have begun to explore trade options involving Collin Sexton. There’s belief around the NBA that Cleveland prefers to move on from Sexton, rather than sign him to a deal that would greatly inhibit their flexibility." https://t.co/wSNaqKYnhi

— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) June 25, 2021

pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 25 June 2021 08:26 (two years ago) link


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