2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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I wonder if some teams will see Reggie Jackson going off in the playoffs and consider the fact that Sexton is Reggie with 5 times the talent

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, June 25, 2021 12:26 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago)

i think the difference is that reggie jackson is actually kinda big for a guard, he's more suited to playing off the ball in a number of ways, esp in the playoffs he can guard 3 positions and not kill you. sexton is like bottom 5 percentile for the NBA in terms of size, it's just hard for me to imagine him being an off ball player. and when reggie jackson was getting paid real money in the prime of his career it didn't work out. he's nice to have on a minimum contract tho

also it's pretty debatable whether sexton has gotten much better, his stats between the last two seasons are essentially identical. he started passing a bit more. i don't hate him it just seems obvious he's gonna have to be the focal point of your offense at this stage in your career and i'm not sure where that's getting you. maybe the second round one year?

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

knicks fans might burn down the city if they make the second round

lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

lol i was gonna say, 2nd round in the east is kinda respectable! which is abt all that cleveland can aspire to when bron doesnt play for them

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

he's not getting anywhere near the second round w/ the cavs. maybe on a better team... i guess the knicks are better? sexton and julius randle trying to share the ball would be really funny

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

if you've washed out with the cavs and every opportunity in the world to have the ball it's not a great sign. sexton has talent and someday he'll be another reggie jackson--a guy making the minimum who finds a spot for half a season on a team where he's the 6th-best player.

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

NB i am not sexton believer and i dont think cleveland will be like GOOD good but theyll at least have something resembling a plan

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

a guy making the minimum who finds a spot for half a season on a team where he's the 6th-best player.

which, when you consider the intense global competition for NBA roster spots, is still pretty respectable as a hoops career.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

i dont think cleveland will be like GOOD good but theyll at least have something resembling a plan

― class project pat (m bison), Friday, June 25, 2021 1:33 PM (two minutes ago)

am i allowed to yellow card you back?

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

yah guys like sexton just have to realize their calling in life as a 6th man chucker

pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

xp haha no I ALONE!!

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

crazy that jacksons making the minimum and balling out in the offs

lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

if you've washed out with the cavs and every opportunity in the world to have the ball it's not a great sign. sexton has talent and someday he'll be another reggie jackson--a guy making the minimum who finds a spot for half a season on a team where he's the 6th-best player.


He hasn’t washed out with the cavs tho, he’s been very productive for them

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

Collin Sexton is 22 and has career averages of 20/3/3 on 46/39/83. That’s a seriously talented scorer. Teams will want to figure out how to make it work.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

plus theres the prospect of improvement from just not being on the cavs

lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

i think it just depends on the price point and expectations. if he's giving you a decently efficient 20 ppg w/ no other production on the floor then that's a pretty good sixth man. but that can't be the center piece of your offense or franchise -- i assume he sees himself as the latter and will be looking for donovan mitchell and de'aaron fox's contract and not jordan clarkson's

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

call it whatever you want, they don’t want to pay the guy.

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

if you look at 538 raptor offense only the names you see around him among guards are kendrick nunn, RJ barrett, caris lavert, dillon brooks. if you look at offensive win shares you see delon wright, devonte graham, fred van vleet, cameron payne. all of these guys are positive players but they're paid at a certain price point. there's prob a lot of teams that would be interested in sexton at 4 years and $65 million, but 5 years and $175 million is a diff story

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

yeah trying to sign a sixth man who thinks hes an allstar is dicey

lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

I would be happy with 4/80 for him

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

the cavs prob would be too. i bet they'll end up giving him $125m+ once they aren't able to trade him

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

I’d pay more if I was getting him for a late first

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

He's RFA, rite? Cavs should let another team make an offer, then if it seems reasonable, match it. If it's a max offer, dump him on them.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 25 June 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link

Charania says that the Blazers are “locked in” and looking to complete a deal with Billups.

boo

Clay, Saturday, 26 June 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link

Billups might be great idk

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 26 June 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link

he's olshey's bud so i don't like it

Clay, Saturday, 26 June 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link

TIL abt the very credible r*pe case against chauncey so this sucks ass

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 26 June 2021 04:38 (two years ago) link

fuck

symsymsym, Saturday, 26 June 2021 06:21 (two years ago) link

well if the billups hire is real I’m gonna learn to turn off the part of myself that loves the blazers for a few years and just follow basketball generally. it sucks but I’ll be far from the only one. indefensible, villainous decision. to hell with ‘em.

Clay, Saturday, 26 June 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link

fun seeing the organization throwing up their hands and saying "sorry, this is dame's guy! we definitely would have hired someone else"

call all destroyer, Saturday, 26 June 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

it's predictable that the blazers' PR may take a hit from hiring billups and having his dirty laundry aired out in local media, but equally predictable that if the blazers have an unexpectedly successful season with a trip to the WCF or the Finals, all will be forgiven and forgotten in a surge of enthusiasm. the converse is true, too. if the team just limps along or falls apart he'll be reviled, but not for any credible rape accusations. it's just the way it works.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 26 June 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

so you’re saying if the team does good people will like the team and if they do bad people will like the team less, interesting

Clay, Saturday, 26 June 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link

I'm saying that in the eyes of the franchise and most of the fans, the rape accusation against billups is just a small PR management problem that will go away as soon as the season gets underway, so it probably was a negligible factor in the decision to hire him. the local media will probably play along bcz the blazers are proven money makers for them.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

Really? I was asked what coaches I like of the names I “heard” and I named them. Sorry I wasn’t aware of their history I didn’t read the news when I was 7/8yrs old. I don’t support Those things … but if this the route y’all wana come at me… say less https://t.co/N1GPkX3Ohd

— Damian Lillard (@Dame_Lillard) June 26, 2021

k3vin k., Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link

🤔

call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link

this is so dumb and bad

Clay, Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

sorry but the blazers are now a bad vibes team

ciderpress, Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link

honestly the fact that lillard already feels like he needs to respond means there is a path to reversing this if that is what the people want

call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link

yeah seems like it could be falling apart

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link

is the ink dry on this deal?

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 27 June 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link

also honestly--if i heard about this billups allegation before the past few weeks of his name being considered for head coaching jobs, it was a long time ago and i forgot about it. sucks that it happened while he was in boston. does anyone know if he has ever publicly spoken about it or acknowledged it?

call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link

well he’s going to have to now

k3vin k., Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link

lillard’s response is…not great. why say that if you’re going to say anything?

k3vin k., Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

a lot of people are comfortable using ignorance as an excuse i guess

call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link

yeah i have been thinking this afternoon that maybe there's been enough backlash they rescind the offer but that's very unlikely at this stage. but the big sportswriters for the local papers are just saying "this is wrong for portland and wrong for the team and wrong for this day and age" in pretty bold strokes. the posts on the blazers blogs are just basically "here are what several women who like the blazers think about this hire, trigger warning", it's ugly already and nothing's signed that i know of

Clay, Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link

the reporting that jody allen wanted becky hammond for the job seems like it matters

call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 June 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

lol and right on time here’s the lillard wants out stuff, Olshey made his bed

Clay, Sunday, 27 June 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

portland's gotta blow it up

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 27 June 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

There’s only so many teams left that are both trying to contend and haven’t traded away all their draft assets

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 June 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

damn you can’t even defend a rapist these days without catching feelings huh

k3vin k., Sunday, 27 June 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link

I think the pelicans could sell him on the idea of contending with Zion

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 June 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link


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