2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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yeah there's the opportunity cost question of whether you could get an even better player for that package but i think the warriors would have to feel pretty great about that trade.

J0rdan S., Monday, 28 June 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

his driving to the basket game could look really good on the warriors

― call all destroyer, Monday, June 28, 2021 11:51 AM (sixteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this plus his passing is much better than wiggins

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 28 June 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

keeping wiggins as well via s&t oubre or whatever wld be better fwiw if the dubs are willing to pay the tax bill

― lag∞n, Monday, June 28, 2021 11:51 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yah the oubre sign in trade would be ideal. but do the raptors want oubre?

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 28 June 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

maybe if its a short deal just to make the contracts match

lag∞n, Monday, 28 June 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

yah but oubre wants something longterm. only been doing short term deals thus far.

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 28 June 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

if you gave oubre 3/60 it would be slightly less money total than the two years left on wiggins deal ($64m) just spread out over an extra year. maybe they'd think that has more trade value if oubre has a better season. sign and trade hard caps you for a year but if they were rebuilding it prob wouldn't matter

J0rdan S., Monday, 28 June 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

the recent history of 7th overall picks: killian hayes, coby white, wendell carter jr, lauri markannen, jamal murray, emmanuel mudiay, julius randle, ben mclemore, harrison barnes, bismack biyombo, greg monroe. seems like it might be a good one for the warriors to cash in


Some of those guys are better than wiggins tho...

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 28 June 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

i would say one of them is better than wiggins, depending on how you feel about harrison barnes. i'm gonna say the jury is still out on julius randle. but anyway it's more a question of how many of them are better than siakam and the answer to that question is probably also still "one"

J0rdan S., Monday, 28 June 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

Julius Randle is definitely better than Wiggins

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 28 June 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

Randle carried a team to the playoffs and Wiggins missed the playoffs playing with Steph Curry

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 28 June 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

oh yeah i mean he was definitely better this season. i just have no idea what's his true level of play in reality

J0rdan S., Monday, 28 June 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

With the exception of poor 3pt shooting Siakam basically replicated his #s from his all-star season. I think with less of the offensive burden on his shoulders he'd look pretty damn good in golden state.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 28 June 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link

but it does feel like a bit of an overpay if it's Wiseman + the pick + Wiggins. It's too bad Wiseman wasn't able to show a little more this year, seems like his stock is down significantly from where it was when he was drafted. I still think he has high potential but he's clearly a project

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 28 June 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

Portland Trail Blazers say Zach Collins underwent a second revision surgery to repair a left medial malleolus stress fracture and will be out indefinitely.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 29, 2021

Wonder if this is it for him : /

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

There's always europe or china.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

Your feet have to work in China too

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

My impression of Zach Collins' personality is that he'll keep trying to work his way back into the NBA, even if it means another long rehab and a stint out of country... until it is obvious to him there's no hope of success. Could take a while for that to sink in.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Ilgauskas had like 6 foot surgeries before one finally worked

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

imagine a bunch of teams will be happy to give collins another shot at a cost of very little

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

Even bill Walton eventually had a healthy season for Boston. Admittedly both those guys were more talented than collins.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

yeah i guess that's my question w/ collins... what is he good at in the NBA exactly? shooting kinda?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

some defensive potential but i think he fouled like it was going out of style

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link

if his foot gets right he could play some backup minutes again but i think the ship has sailed on him ever being a starter or anything.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link

that aint a bad offer

76ers reportedly rejected a trade of Pacers’ Malcolm Brogdon and first-rounder for Ben Simmons, per @JDumasReports pic.twitter.com/TcUMr9fGjv

— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) July 2, 2021

frogbs, Friday, 2 July 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link

malcolm brogdon is very fucking good and im honestly kinda mad i didnt think of this idea earlier?

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 2 July 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

yeah Brogdon in Philly actually makes sense to me

frogbs, Friday, 2 July 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

indy still thinking of simmons as a guard big mistake

lag∞n, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

of maybe theyre just doing the trade based on talent and figure the fit out later

lag∞n, Friday, 2 July 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

honestly getting him plus a first (is it indiana's #13??) would be a great deal for philly. i know its not a asset haul but it gives them a player who complements their group rly well plus a 1st rounder which can either be used to draft a good player or sent off for another vet.

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 2 July 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

i feel like one of the major hesitations for sixers in that deal would having your two best players both w/ extensive prior histories of leg injuries

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 July 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

yeah good pt. if they want durability but no 3 point range, demar derozan is available!

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 2 July 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

I would have taken that deal if I was the sixers, assuming it’s the 13th pick. I also think the pacers could be really good if they just nailed that pick.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 2 July 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link

yeah, feel like theyre one big wing away from being a goodass team. i think they need to trade turner, though. franz wagner? jalen johnson? ziaire williams as the nu paul george?

class project pat (m bison), Friday, 2 July 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link

word out of indy is that trade rumour is inaccurate

micah, Friday, 2 July 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

simmons would fit at the 4 next to turner, and the pacers have the guards to fill out the roster. would need to trade sabonis though. there might be the bones of a 3 team trade that would make sense

micah, Friday, 2 July 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

Nate McMillan signed to a 4 year deal to coach the Hawks, no surprise there

frogbs, Monday, 5 July 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

workout video season

Steven Adams starting at Shooting Guard next season? 👀🔥pic.twitter.com/duIPyKtggP

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) July 7, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

giannis coast 2 coast

lag∞n, Friday, 9 July 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link

blazers hired glasses as their top assistant, this really is the off-season you dream about

Clay, Friday, 9 July 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

yeah, I noticed that. maybe Brooks has good organizational skills or something that would never show up during his in-game coaching. just trying to find the silver lining here. (weak apologetic smile)

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 9 July 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

Chet Holmgren has had one of these possessions in every game. Good grief. pic.twitter.com/EhQwZkmstL

— Steven Karr (@SKarrG0) July 10, 2021



Chet Holmgren making it look too easy out there pic.twitter.com/hyD4UkLjXE

— Aram Cannuscio (@AC__Hoops) July 9, 2021



Any ideas on how you contest this from Chet Holmgren? Cause I have none. pic.twitter.com/6qtH8xH0Zb

— Asher Low (@alow_33) July 10, 2021



pretty insane

J0rdan S., Saturday, 10 July 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

There’s some Kirilenko in him for sure

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 10 July 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

chets got the juice

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 July 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link

AK meets KD

symsymsym, Sunday, 11 July 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link

Feels like a supreme tank situation, I feel like the only two teams that are guaranteed to be bad are the Cavs and rockets?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 11 July 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

The Clippers announce that Kawhi Leonard has undergone surgery to repair a partial tear of his right anterior cruciate ligament: pic.twitter.com/eMoMe0Kq4v

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) July 14, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 00:45 (two years ago) link

Uh oh

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 00:45 (two years ago) link

#Clippers Even though Kawhi Leonard had a partially torn ACL

The surgery and recovery time is similar to a full ACL reconstruction

Expect Kawhi to possible be out 9-12 months unfortunately

— Dr. Evan Jeffries, DPT (@GameInjuryDoc) July 14, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

Thunder have the clippers pick

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link


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