there's no wordplay, they're just doing dumb guy syntax i think
(i've listened to a lot of eps and as far as i can tell that's the idea. i mean each episode is one podcast about one list so it kinda makes sense if you put it like that)
― Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Monday, 5 July 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link
Lolhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/08/02/the-post-dirtbag-left
― đ đđ˘đ¨ (caek), Monday, 26 July 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
(Listening to âKnow Your Enemyâ can feel like visiting a semi-reclusive friend whose apartment is crammed with out-of-print books, but who always keeps a stash of good bourbon on hand.)
I have enjoyed episodes of this podcast and might resemble that description to an extent but Jesus Christ. (Also the âbutâ implies that the bourbon makes up for having to be around all those books?)
― JoeStork, Monday, 26 July 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link
Not a hard description to resemble, now that you point it out. Not really sure what semi-reclusive means, but I feel like it probably describes a lot of people these days.
― Lily Dale, Monday, 26 July 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link
The right wing reading series at the end of the most recent Chapo was too stupid to even be amusing.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
Did make me wonder if thereâs a reactionary improv crew that just yes ands from the premise of âI identify as an attack helicopter.â
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link
Ahmariâs mind must just be a carnival of bullshit. these type of guys really have reverted to 8 year olds camping in the backyard, trying to scare themselves and their friends with just the dumbest most nonsensical ghost stories
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, 26 July 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
re: NYer article I donât know understand why anyone would want to subject themselves to a âconversation not a debateâ with Ross Douthat instead of listening to 15 minutes of what type of guys different apes are.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
Have never listened to either pod, but Know Your Enemy sounds less insufferable to me. Marantz's description of Chapo's "blanket fatalism" is precisely what irritates me about some ILXors' posts.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link
whenever i've listen to chapo, i've always been amazed at how half-assed it sounds. sometimes matt christman has some good insights, but they're just kind of peppered into a conversation that is mostly just smug and dumb.
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
true anon is better because brace and liz are more likable, but their format has its issues too. the jfk series has really interesting elements but the whole was way less than the sum of its parts. it was disorganized. and again, you have the same thing where the hosts are dug into their "fatalistic" premises about the shadowy hand of the cia or whatever
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
I like both shows a lot. One partic good episode is when Matt Sitman from KYE came on CHT to talk about JD Vance. They really got to the heart of his bullshit way before any of the credulous NPR/ NYT liberals who were convinced heâd penned some sort of Rosetta Stone for the MAGA rubes (while flattering their own prejudices) could. And holy shit were they right. Watching him just make an absolute clown of himself on Twitter and cable news over the last few months has been gratifying.
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
QAA is the best lefty pod going rn imo, polished but not too slick, good balance of humor and actual research, affable hosts, etc
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
that sounds like good content. jd vance is trash -- just another iteration of the myth of the "deserving poor' that has always greased the wheels of the american right wing
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
Yeah co-sign on QAA
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
what is qaa?
oh not just the rightwing xpost
(unless you count mainstream American Democrats âright wingâ, which hey, fair)
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
yeah, well that is why npr et al likes him. it's a version of reagan's "welfare queens" that works to demonize the *republican* base rather than the democratic one and that also -- since it attacks white people -- isn't racist. but it's the same move, justifying an unequal status quo by demonizing the people at the bottom.
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
i think it's still right wing in the old school sense. to enjoy this type of argument, the idea that it's your own fault if you don't claw your way up the corporate ladder, you need to be invested in the system as it is. you have to want to legitimize it.
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
QAA is often very good (the episode about the evolution of 4chan and the context of QAnonâs gestation there is fantastic and made the whole thing make a lot more sense to me) but there are times when I think âwhy do I need to know about the mind palaces of these particular delusional freaks?â And I generally canât stand the âcreativeâ bits.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link
why are leftist podcasters so fascinated by conspiracy theories?
― flopson, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link
you should investigate
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link
because they can tell you q lot about the specific ways in which society is decaying, also sometimes the particulars are amusing or horrifyibg
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link
didn't do that on purpose, or did i
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
I do recommend everybody check out This Is Revolution on pod/YT, if you havenât yet. They have a great balance of solid talk and humor and a lot of foreign affairs coverage. Theyâve been helping to cover the gap left by Michael Brooksâ passing.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link
â intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, July 27, 2021 3:31 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
totally agree about the amusing horrifying part, but thatâs not unique to the left. yet there seems to be something uniquely fascinating about them to left podcasters with at least two dedicated podcasts (QAA, trueanon) and lots of content on Chapo and others
iâm not as convinced q tells us much about society. the theories have been pretty much the same for decades (even if details change) and have been around in roughly the same proportion for a long time (at least as far as we can tell since measuring is hard):
There are no major comprehensive, longitudinal studies on Americans' attitudes toward conspiracy theories, mostly because it was not rigorously measured until about 10 to 20 years ago.However, researchers have done a considerate amount of work in recent years in an attempt to understand this apparent phenomenon.Political scientists Joseph E. Uscinski and Joseph M. Parent reviewed over 120 years of letters to the editor, from 1890 to 2010, for both The New York Times and the Chicago Tribune.In over 100,000 letters, this review showed absolutely no change in the amount of conspiracy theory belief over time. In fact, the percent of letters about conspiracy theories actually declined from the late 1800s to the 1960s and has remained steady since then.While these researchers looked at data only up until 2010, current polling has not shown any uptick in conspiracy theory belief since then.
However, researchers have done a considerate amount of work in recent years in an attempt to understand this apparent phenomenon.
Political scientists Joseph E. Uscinski and Joseph M. Parent reviewed over 120 years of letters to the editor, from 1890 to 2010, for both The New York Times and the Chicago Tribune.
In over 100,000 letters, this review showed absolutely no change in the amount of conspiracy theory belief over time. In fact, the percent of letters about conspiracy theories actually declined from the late 1800s to the 1960s and has remained steady since then.
While these researchers looked at data only up until 2010, current polling has not shown any uptick in conspiracy theory belief since then.
(source: https://www.livescience.com/are-conspiracy-theory-beliefs-rising.html)
there is definitely a widespread *perception* that conspiracy theories are increasing in popularity. but itâs still not clear to me why the response among leftists was an increase in demand for content about it
― flopson, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link
TrueAnon isnât about âdebunkingâ these theories. They try to find the grain of truth from which the Baroque labyrinth of lies spring. So like the earliest episodes were all about Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged ties to the CIA and Mossadâa connection the hosts believe is real.
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link
So like, adrenochrome theories arenât part of these podcasts, but the idea that the CIA murked Kennedy because he stood in the way of their plans is definitely in playâin fact they assume that this is true.
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
― Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
Brace and Liz say the mob and CIA were symbiotic
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link
TrueAnon are also interested in why conspiracies are marginalized to the extent that they are, given the things we know are true (COINTELPRO, MKUltra) or things that have absolutely happened in the open and just forgotten by most people (like the MOVE bombing).
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
True
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 July 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link
i skip most trueanons but the elon musk stuff has been good, to me anyway, because on one hand i am interested in the background of financial scams but on the other hand i don't want to spend time looking up elon musk information on my own because i have better things to do (so i tell myself). the episodes have definitely been way too long though.
― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link
I stopped looking at the TA feed after I killed off my Patreon subs - pretty pointless to get ep 1 on Musk or JFK and not the followups.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTQq1A7vov0
I temporarily got Stitcher to listen to all the Blowbacks and really ended up enjoying Hell of Presidents more than recent CHT. Honestly think it has pretty broad appeal for American history nerds, even if youâre not into snarky internet socialists. And as much as Time for My Stories didnât sound at all like my jam (Chapo movie eps can be a real mixed bag imo) I really liked their Deadwood and Sons of Anarchy eps. I think w that one it helps a lot if they have even the slightest affinity for the show.
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link
which reminds me I gotta cancel Stitcher when Hell is over
â Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:10 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago)
they made the musk one that was patreon into a free ep
― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
chapo housetrap
― mh, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link
Help me convince D-40 to listen to the Woodstock 99 episode
― my Least Favorite Writer (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 1 August 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
It's got an actual attendee in Bryan from Street Fight, what more do you need?
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 1 August 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link
It's totally enjoyable although they probably could have cut off the discussion a little earlier as it got a bit repetitive. One of the more fun episodes in a while.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 2 August 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link
white lotus girl doesnât even need to say what podcast she listened to to prepare for the role... we already know pic.twitter.com/uvXnWNAKHi— kelly (@kickinson) August 11, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 13 August 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link
oh no
― mh, Friday, 13 August 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link
I am grieved to tell you that @nathanjrobinson has effectively fired me & most of the @curaffairs staff because we were trying to organize into a workerâs co-op. This isnât a bit. I wish it was. https://t.co/0lmnJlzAEX pic.twitter.com/5P6U88d4VR— lyta gold, fired for doing socialism (@lyta_gold) August 18, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
really living up to his outward appearance
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
*pretends to be shocked*
― criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link
is it true that current affairs is funded by his parents? where does the money come from?
― flopson, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
i don't know. didn't his mom make fun of him on facebook for using that fake accent?
― criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link