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^^^
the only affable right-wing food critic in the UK iirc
― MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
― MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
what did he say
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
He didn’t “sign into the wrong account”. The left was his first draft and the right is what he genuinely thought would be fine pic.twitter.com/nO6YeOUNXo— Ciara McShane (@Ciara87C) July 20, 2021
― Neil S, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
Lol
I'm used to terrible people thriving but if there is no sanction for Coren's obscene cruelty, then that will be a moral failure even by the standards of the columnist circuit.— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) July 20, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
I'm guessing the Coren comment was about Dawn? So the follow up guess is that DL probably called fuck out of her for most of her politics throughout her career
But maybe this is the non-liberal bit of my brain being illiberal
― Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
one of my fave Dawn memorial anecdotes of the last few days was that she got quite drunk at some Graun do and made some pretty rum comments to many of them, including calling Will Self a nonce! I'm sure DL was completely up in arms when his employers sacked her whilst she was in hospital.
― MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
Just two Times columnists who want to get to the truth about (checks notes) exonerating the Luftwaffe for Guernica pic.twitter.com/6eh1occm1P— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) July 28, 2021
I'd never heard of regular Times columnist Gerald Warner before he wrote this repulsive fascist apologia for Reaction. Even though this is the least of his crimes here, anyone calling Guernica "Picasso's daub" in the year 2021 definitely deserves to be taken very seriously.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:45 (two years ago) link
heartbreaking that woke snowflake cancel culture now means that people can't express support in the media for Fascism
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:55 (two years ago) link
Iain Martin, another blot on Paisley's reputation, though you'd never guess from his accent.
'Gerald Warner' is also Scottish.
He has written about being part of that "dwindling band of individualists who persist in defying the zeitgeist" by wearing a monocle.
― Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:57 (two years ago) link
Scottish unionists, great bunch o' lads, wha's like them?
― Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 July 2021 07:59 (two years ago) link
300 not 1600 dead hmm I wonder if this person disputes any other massacres, genocides
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 July 2021 08:56 (two years ago) link
Iain Martin is also one of the highly esteemed Orwell Prize judges: "Britain’s most prestigious Prize for political writing".
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 09:16 (two years ago) link
you say yr a fan of the orwell prize, name five of its winners
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 09:23 (two years ago) link
answers will surprise you
they're ALL fascists
It may be a step too far to attempt a rehabilitation of David Irving's *astonishing* body of work, but a regular Times column and a slot on GBTV wouldn't seem so beyond the pale these days!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 09:51 (two years ago) link
Your reminder that Evelyn Waugh and others were very open in their support for Franco. pic.twitter.com/E4awMKUt4m— Ken Pasok (@paulewart23) July 29, 2021
https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/15314
interesting thread here and you can download a dossier on the author's replies from that link
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:31 (two years ago) link
Aleister Crowley calls Franco a pirate and a common murderer and then suggests Hitler may prove to be a prophet!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:36 (two years ago) link
boo at that book cover not splitting the authors into two rows so I can instantly know, do they think I got all day
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link
some of them are quite amusing, one of them (Nevison whoever the fuck he is)) denounces fascism and also complains that it's a great threat to British Empire interests in the Mediterranean.
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link
the "definitely against" row is p short (just five names) -- saddest inclusion for me there is arthur machen tbh, not that i'd quickly turn to him for political recommendations
the "neutral?" row is 15 ppl both-sidesing it like it was going out of fashion, including an extremely melty wells and (lol) a typically demented ezra pound posting thru it like the michael tracey of his day except he can supposedly read mandarin
(pound isn't neutral at all of course, he just thinks that the important thing to be mad about is that everyone involved is a liberal sap)
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:03 (two years ago) link
Ruby M. AyresUNINFORMED INTERFERENCE in international politics is more to be dreaded than any anticipated danger resulting from conflict in Spain.As a professional writer I dread amateurs.
UNINFORMED INTERFERENCE in international politics is more to be dreaded than any anticipated danger resulting from conflict in Spain.
As a professional writer I dread amateurs.
hah hah! it's not armies and bullets that kill people, it's posting!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:05 (two years ago) link
Pound's take on the politics was funny and expected, the extremity of the antisemitic frothing was horribly new to me - like Eliot he toned it down for the poetry ffs
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
Lol, the "watch your tone" in this:
Norman Douglas "I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY about your questionnaire. I cannot excite myself over nations and causes and creeds—my contempt for humanity in general is too great. Individuals are the only things that interest me. If Spaniards like to cut each other’s 239 throats and get Germans and Russians to help them—why not let them? It’s not my affair. If they eat each other up to the last man, like Kilkenny cats, let them! This will sound unsatisfactory to you. But if you want the truth, there it is..."
Douglas is best remembered for his novelSouth Wind (1917) and his feud with D. H. Lawrence (1885–1930), exemplified in thepolemic D. H. Lawrence and Maurice Magnus: a Plea for Better Manners (1925)
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link
239 throats?
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
rude? d h lawrencenot rude at all? saying spaniards can eat each other
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
RE Pound: "the stank of England" just doesn't sound worthy of someone who was supposed to be a top class poet and wordsmith, but also what a wanker!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
What did Eric Linklater have to say? A really weird choice for them to go to a guy who mostly wrote comic novels in the Wodehouse vein...
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
Linklater: "MY SYMPATHY is with the people and government of Republican Spain. I am against Fascism and Franco and all who set the mythical value of an imaginary totality above the intellect and freedom of the individual. To European civilisation Fascism is as dreary and dreadful a peril as another Flood—and the Ark of the Covenant has unhappily been scuttled"
he was a professional journalist and a prolific essayist and commentator, even if that side of his work is now long forgotten .
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
by "professional journalist" i mean "prominent journalist" lol
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
my god Flora Gill is just astonishingly thick, it is a sight to behold
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Eric Linklater very prescient about the soon to be rediscovered Ark
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link
Flora advocating pornography for children and then deleting the tweet and saying that people taking screenshots is bad was very funny tbf!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
the other ghouls with nepotism jobs know that there are no consequences any more and you can just double down on any awful shit, Flora is somehow too thick to grasp this
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link
seriously suggest following Flora's Twitter, it's the most surreally inane thing out there, she has absolutely nothing to say and cannot stop saying it
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
i feel that "if only pornography for children!" is less NOTHING than SOMETHING, albeit quite a bad something
― mark s, Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link
these days if you say there should be porn for children you get arrested and thrown in jail
― mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link
Quality damning with faint praise
When dad died I was amazed at how many people that could've hated him, instead, said really lovely, thoughtful things. That's the only right way to be.— Flora Gill (@FloraEGill) July 20, 2021
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link
I'm still on the Spanish war thing (thanks for that link calzino btw, it is fascinating). Leonard Barnes seems like a dude.
― emil.y, Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
xxxp would suggest that it is "nothing" in the sense that it has not been thought about in enough depth to be even considered an idea, it's not badly phrased, it's just utter stupidity presented very poorly.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
just look at this, should be a really simple joke, she simply cannot put the words together properly
I’m really worried that it was coming home but it was being delivered by Hermes, so they prematurely said it was home but it’s not actually here and it might be lost in transit forever...— Flora Gill (@FloraEGill) July 11, 2021
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
should say thanks to calzino for the Revolutions suggestion, Francisco Madero truly is the Kier Starmer of early 20th century Mexico.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link
Baron Boris Vladimirovich Stürmer - the Kieth of early 20th century Russia, but he was actually a PM for some time so perhaps not!
― calzino, Thursday, 29 July 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
This is such a brutal putdown
It reminds me of an incident a few years ago in which a group of lefty men denigrated me as “Chuka Umunna’s intern” because they couldn’t get their head round the fact a woman with brown skin might be on a think tank advisory board. (They didn’t target anyone else on that board.)— Sonia Sodha (@soniasodha) July 30, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:12 (two years ago) link
Sonia is such a load of garbage. Good to see her getting rinsed.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link
"Student-like nature of their politics"
Incidentally, that’s why I momentarily liked a tweet that was a dig at the student-like nature of their politics. I unliked it pretty quickly though because I felt it was a bit beneath me - when they go low, we go high after all 😉.— Sonia Sodha (@soniasodha) July 30, 2021
― nashwan, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:30 (two years ago) link
It would be pitiful except, y'know, paid loads of money to be this thick
― i wish i had cuck feet (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 July 2021 12:33 (two years ago) link
Whatever Novara's faults that was a pretty good piece on Corbyn and Starmer. The liking and unliking of Kamm's tweet is the thing I'd call infantile.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:47 (two years ago) link
rare footage of the "rob (dog)" cited in the review: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Rob_para_dog.jpg
― mark s, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link