Maybe a Herman Cain hologram should deliver the message.
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
do they actually think the vaccine will go and start attacking the virus that's already in their body?
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
Yes?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
Yes, because this is what happens when critical thinking skills have been utterly sledgehammered.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
I mean these people being described have basically just completely given up on thinking for themselves on any meaningful level. They read a thing on Facebook and it becomes insta-tattooed on their brains as knowledge.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link
I just sent this article to an unvaccinated friend in Florida. This was her response. She's going to be another person killed by Trump and GOP lies. pic.twitter.com/Z3rQiJWGjv— Trump & GOP murdered 623,000 + 🇺🇸 🌊 (@KatCapps) July 21, 2021
― rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
Hope you're ready for your soul to move to a new temple pretty soon.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
I mean obviously I know they think that, the question was more one of feigned incredulity at how dumb people are to think "well if COVID isn't a hoax, I guess I can just get the vaccine last minute and be ok". it's the whole Protestant "I can beg forgiveness on my deathbed" belief.
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
the hilarious thing is how it doesn't make sense for Trumpers to actually actively bash the vaccine as Trump went out of his way to try and take full credit for Operation Warp Speed, which we talked about the other day when Fox talking heads started asking people to take it seriously.
like the vaccine is harmful, but your President claims he helped develop it and singlehandedly brought it to market himself, so...you're saying he's poisoning you? or that liberals messed with the vaccine he created and are now killing us? or there's no virus, or that the virus is
malfunction malfunction
1 0 0 1 0 0 1 S O S
*shutdown*
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link
it's the whole Protestant "I can beg forgiveness on my deathbed" belief.
even then, though, it can be complicated. even when patients get put on ventilators and ECMO, there's this denial that runs through everything. "oh, it's just for an afternoon because he had a bad reaction to some of those tranquilizers from earlier." then a week passes and the patient is still unconscious
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link
xp Shock horror scenes in PSAs are ki d of notoriously bad at changing behavior--they tend to create denial, instead.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
i think a common but rarely voiced belief among white evangelicals is that they believe the virus is god's punishment in some way, and that they will be spared because they're true believers. like the final plague in Exodus, the one the true believers were spared from because they smeared lamb blood (or whatever) above their doors. or the great flood, when noah was spared and the non-believers were not. or sodom and gomorrah.
i think my dad and many other racist evangelicals probably also had similar thoughts during the AIDS epidemic, and there's certainly a long line of southern preachers who have filled up many a sunday morning with warnings about how god is punishing various enormous groups of people for their wickedness. it's in the blood. white christians grow up with this shit, and by the time they're 70 years old, they're the ones passing it on to new generations
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
would accept that blood if it came with prime rib
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
oh man, if i ran a novelty crucifixion restaurant, the special would definitely be christ's punctured prime rib, served rare
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
Salmon served over rice pilate
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link
There’s pretty strong evidence that the vaccines help with long covid, so it’s not actually that crazy to think it might help someone with the disease. (Seems like they don’t, but it’s not nuts to wonder.)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link
"this is his body. and this is his blood. hot sauce is by the napkins, and i'll be back in a bit to see you how that bloody mary is treating you!"
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link
Doubt it could make the denialism about COVID and vaccines any worse than it already is so...
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link
Tbh I've been warning people to stay out of FL for years
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-variant-doctor-cautions-americans-about-traveling-to-florida-145905680.html
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
If only Gillum had won
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link
I posted that tweet because it seems obvious to me that gory PSAs would simply be perceived as propaganda...which would be literally true!
Might be worth it anyway to catch the fence-sitters though idk, these people are inscrutable to me
― rob, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link
Sorta lucky that Miami-Dade's at 72% jabs.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link
fauci told rand paul he had no idea what he was talking about, the other day, in a senate hearing. he's said that several times before, but indirectly. this time he just told him he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about.
U.S. Senator Rand Paul will make a criminal referral to the U.S. Department of Justice against Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the infectious diseases department at NIH. Paul’s threat was first announced on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show on Tuesday night and came after Fauci pushed back against the senator’s aggressive questioning during a senate committee hearing in Washington D.C.“I will be sending a letter to the Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress,” Senator Paul told Sean Hannity.
“I will be sending a letter to the Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress,” Senator Paul told Sean Hannity.
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link
― rob, Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:07 AM (fifty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
It's like they sit around all day every day with a cocked and loaded gun in their mouths just waiting for some external force to pull the trigger for them.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
i want to swing rand paul around by his ankles like a stomach-turning carnival ride that won't stop
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
XxXpost We're at like 53% I think.
Kind of expected to be higher
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
xp
they do! the best thing that can happen to them is to die via non-suicide. suicide = hell, so you have to die in a way that's not intentional. but you can also be a martyr and die. there's a loophole. a covid martyr, against the sign of the beast. or whatever. backdoor into heaven before the concert starts!
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
when Rand Paul gets sick and goes to the hospital, he should only have one choice of doctor, the doctor who was approved by his own independent licensing and oversight board, not the one all other doctors use.
ladies and gentleman, Dr Old Lunch
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
I think I just got a dopamine rush from that hypothetical scenario.
AND HOW ARE WE TODAY, RAAAAAAAND?https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/81/18/39/360_F_281183906_vpaIAacYDmBumBfjtxdMiuZ2owz67Xbs.jpg
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
"that they didn't reach their quota"
I think this is the most frustrating part of it, I think people are fundamentally driven by the idea that what's important is keeping Biden from getting a "win" -- if Biden announced a national goal of zero perforated colons a lot of these people would be sitting on the nearest sharp stick immediately
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
or the great flood, when noah was spared and the non-believers were not
you mean the thing God explicitly promises he is never doing again, right
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
I never before wondered what the offspring of James Murphy and Bobby Moynihan would look like, but now I know!
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
i don't know that there are many times in modern US history where lockdowns and preventive measures would have gone over well, or where we'd get 75% of the country vaccines, but it certainly *feels* like we would have had at least better progress on this 20+ years ago, pre-9/11.
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
Yeah, sometime prior to irredeemable shitbaggery becoming such a widespread aspirational state.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
xp standard Christian answer is “promised he wouldn’t destroy everyone again via a great flood, you mean! Which is why global warming is a hoax, because rising sea water isn’t going to destroy us again, god’s word, and because I think climate change is only about sea levels I guess!?”
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link
meanwhile, I think Macron is announcing something big? I saw a mistranslation of the French a while back, waiting for actual French translator
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
God said he wouldn't flood the entire world again, just the places where there are libs
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
meanwhile, I think Macron is announcing something big?
"Pizza for everybody."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
oh, i see he was just speechifying about policies going into effect today that were previously announced.
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2021/07/emmanuel-macron-s-coercive-vaccination-strategy-example-rest-europe
On 21 July the first stage of France’s plan to pressurise its population into getting vaccinated will take effect, with vaccine passports required for entry to cultural venues such as theatres and cinemas. A few weeks later, that condition will be extended to a swathe of other activities, including long-distance travel, bars and restaurants. The unvaccinated can present proof of recovery from coronavirus or a recent negative PCR test as an alternative, though tests will soon cost €49. Venues which do not check their customers’ vaccination status will face hefty fines.The administration rate of first doses has begun to taper off in many European countries – so is coercion the way to achieve vaccination? Without fully mandating compulsory vaccination, French president Emmanuel Macron has chosen to make life progressively more inconvenient – not to mention expensive – for those who have not completed a full course of immunisation. Other European countries are taking similar steps, though few have yet to go as far as France.
The administration rate of first doses has begun to taper off in many European countries – so is coercion the way to achieve vaccination? Without fully mandating compulsory vaccination, French president Emmanuel Macron has chosen to make life progressively more inconvenient – not to mention expensive – for those who have not completed a full course of immunisation. Other European countries are taking similar steps, though few have yet to go as far as France.
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
As for the Alabama piece, my podcast cohost Oriana zeroed in on the one unavoidable problem not sufficiently addressed. And it's not that physician's fault but...
there’s a big problem here that’s unsaid: having a “primary care physician” in the first place is a huge barrier https://t.co/vaznPN0uuY pic.twitter.com/M46hzwJ8p9— Oriana Schwindt (@Schwindter) July 21, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
A better note:
On "breakthrough" infections post-vaccination in India. ~5% of >28,000 healthcare workers with mild symptoms, 0.29% led to hospitalization, no deaths; they were 83% suppressed by AZ and Bharat Biotech vaccineshttps://t.co/YZKLAmxZMZ— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 21, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
Seems to be announcing an investigation into that Pegasus spyware thing, nothing coronavirus related afaict.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
speaking of evangelical charlatans
Fully packed event at Influence church in Anaheim right now. This is the latest stop in Clay Clark’s roving Health and Freedom tour. Main auditorium filled to capacity and hundreds more in huge tent outside. Food trucks sputter outside, merch tables lined up. pic.twitter.com/nzIjpf5DOF— Sam Kestenbaum (@skestenbaum) July 17, 2021
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
i've lost track of all these dudes and it doesn't help that all of them have names like "clay clark"
― criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
Funny how it works
Here’s the PSA Fox News is now airing encouraging their viewers to get vaccinated: pic.twitter.com/OHwxUGuhCY— Tim Hogan (@timjhogan) July 21, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
But meantime
Charlie Kirk calls encouraging people to get the COVID vaccine "virtue signaling" pic.twitter.com/Vdiwqrcci7— nikki mccann ramĂrez (@NikkiMcR) July 22, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link
The first question anyone should ask Tucker is if he is vaccinated, cause I guaranty he has been.
― Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Thursday, 22 July 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link
he wants to be asked to he can scandalize libs by saying stuff like this so i'm not sure what the point would be https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/20/business/media/tucker-carlson.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 July 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Good friend who is a doctor is reacting to the current wave by 1. Quitting his job (albeit with a 90 day waiting period during which he has to work) and 2. Openly wishing for the Darwining of the antivax. Can't say I blame him.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 22 July 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link
really? they're just like, fuck it, i hate these people, i can't do it?
i don't blame them. this is why i never had the moral fiber to be a doctor, though
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 July 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link