Defend Phil Collins

David Schimmer Rhys Ifans as Mike Rutherford
Bob Hoskins (RIP) as Phil Collins
Tony Banks as himself

Roger Rees (RIP) as Tony Banks

Rename thread to Defund Phil Collins.

Phil Collins' split from his third wife has landed him at the top of the list for the biggest divorce payout by a British celebrity in legal history, according to the U.K.'s Mirror. Collins, 57, reportedly paid Orianne Cevey, 35, $46.68 million, topping the Heather Mills-Paul McCartney divorce by $1 million.

Sweet

Ori, Please Lose My Number

Jude Law with prosthetics could win an Oscar as Phil.

or without them

idk I increasingly imagine Law as Simon Le Bon in the J'ran J'ran biopic.

Colin Hay as Phil Collin(s)

At this point, Jim Broadbent could be Phil Collins.

lol otm

At this point Phil Collen from Def Leppard could play Phil Collins, but only from the neck up. The rest should be mo-cap Andy Serkis.

Phil Collins even turned up in Miami Vice to play game show host/con man Phil “The Shill” Mayhew, who moved to Miami from London and quickly set about depleting the bank accounts of the city’s richest residents with a shady drug deal. pic.twitter.com/3C4ZsMs43l

— Daniel Holland🎗 (@DannyDutch) August 4, 2021

Buster 2 gofundme starts now

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-58508715

Come and witness the sad passing of time

He seems so very old.

Just know that when he passes, people who never would even mention him will then be saying "he played on Taking Tiger Mountain etc" in large numbers

Oh man, his voice is sounding pretty pinched and weak, I wonder if he's on a lot of pain meds.

Give him one more night

Probably better to replace him with a hologram of fully-haired 1970s Phil.

“Fully haired”

Fully bearded, maybe.

That clip is sad for lots of reasons, not least that the tour hasn't even started yet. So yeah, he looks and sounds pretty weak ... and those are clips from the *rehearsal*, which means extra breaks, re-dos, etc. But the whole thing seems kind of sad and joyless. In that brief interview Mike sort of mumbles that this feels like a "nice time to do it." During a pandemic? With your drummer/singer weakened and incapacitated? Sure, Mike. Nice. The only nice thing about Genesis in 2021 is that they all do seem to have remained on good terms, even the ex-members, to an extent. Other than that, sorry, no.

Back when my buddy heard the band was reunited he got really excited and asked if I wanted to get tickets. I told him how terrible it feels to see a beloved band so far past its prime that you wish you could take back the new memory and return to the more positive old memories. I showed him a clip of Phil on his short tour in I think 2018, and he looked and sounded ... not great. And that was almost four years ago.

Yeah, the idea of a Genesis concert being anything but unwatchably sad seems... against all odds

I'd watch something like a Storytellers or Unplugged thingy though

They should all retire to a (second) home by the sea.

Waiting for nurse to tell them...

...supper's ready

No Walker Required

ABACABAARP

lulz

Cause it's no fun being a senior citizen

The real reason Phil is sitting down on this tour is Mike Rutherford's pathological need to be the tallest person on any stage. His first victim was Steve Hackett, now Phil.

it's more that he has impacted anal glands and needs to occasionally scoot across the floor during the show

Get better Phil. Rough.

Trying to think of an older band whose classic lineup* are all still alive, but can't come up with one.

*counting banks/rutherford/collins/gabriel/hackett here

Black Sabbath

CSNY

Was going to say The Kinks but apparently Pete Quaife died 11 years ago and nobody told me.

The five original members of Manfred Mann, who formed in 1962, are all still alive.

All eight original members of Blood Sweat and Tears (formed 1967) are still around, and none of them have been in the still-existent group since 1977, though I guess their "classic lineup" (such as it is) debuted on the next album.

i had no idea Collins was in such bad condition, much less that he was doing the Solomon Burke stage show. He looks rough for 70.

Per wiki:

In April 2009, Collins had surgery to repair dislocated vertebrae in his upper neck, which arose while drumming on the 2007 Genesis tour. Following the operation, he lost feeling in his fingers and could only grip drum sticks if they were taped to his hands. In 2010, Collins alluded to feelings of depression and low self-worth in recent years and said he had contemplated suicide, but he resisted for the sake of his children. In 2014, Collins said that he was still unable to play the drums and that it was not arthritis, but an undiagnosed nerve problem. In 2015, he underwent a spine operation. In 2016, he said he was still unable to drum with his left hand. His doctor advised him that if he wanted to play the drums again, he would need to practice as long as he took it step by step. In his 2016 autobiography, Collins acknowledged that he had struggled with an alcohol problem following his retirement and third divorce. He also stated that he had been sober for three years.

In January 2017, Collins said he was a type 2 diabetic and had received treatment with a hyperbaric chamber after he developed a diabetic abscess on his foot that became infected. In June 2017, Collins cancelled two shows after he slipped in his hotel room during the night and hit his head on a chair as he fell, resulting in stitches for a severe gash close to his eye. The fall was caused by his drop foot, developed as a result from his back operation.

In 2017, Collins began to use a cane to assist with walking and performed on stage while sitting in a chair.

Please don’t tape drum sticks to Phil Collins hands, it’s not funny.

lol

The guy went from a workaholic so intense he barely drank to stopping work and realizing he had nothing to do all day except chug vodka.

Yeah, I get why people hate Phil, but there's something very sad about his slipping from the bouncing egomanic rock-star with Hollywood pretentions of the 80s, to old man Steptoe now. I mean, he obviously has made terrible decisions in his private life and seemed to have been an awful guy to be married to (or, at least, to be divorced-via-fax by), and his actions towards the Phenix Horns seemed unnecessarily spiteful. But he's aged so hard and so fast. And he was a brilliant drummer BITD, no matter what you think of the songs he wrote and sang.

Chances of him writing a late career masterpiece? Against all odds

But that's the chance he had to take

That song is the apex of "you dumped me but I killed myself, welcome to a life of guilt" songcraft. He's a dark little psycho on the quiet, is Phil. Fuck In The Air Tonight, that's his moment of peak evil.

I fucking love it, as well. There's a masterful self-pity at play in Phil's best work, and when he abandoned it he became as anodyne as his critics always claim.