Amia didn't even link to it on her twitter so perhaps a mistake on her part. She would've known what The Observer are like.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 August 2021 11:02 (two years ago) link
Was very dispiriting reading people like Richard Williams linking to this yesterday.
You have to wait and work for @MsRachelCooke’s payoff in this absorbing and beautifully written piece, but it’s worth it. https://t.co/AMmt63dJ6m— Richard Williams (@rwilliams1947) August 8, 2021
― Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 9 August 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link
I like Richard a lot but his politics are melty and I got that sense from him when I followed. Was one tweet out of a thousand and he was never aggressively pushing it. He is wise to butt out of it most of the time and concentrate on his beat.
It would've been great if most of his music writing pals had done the same.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 August 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link
I almost unfollowed him over some melty and plain wrong bullshit he posted about Sturgeon. But yeah he is basically a very nice guy and not one of the idiot aggro-melts and a decent music writer.
― calzino, Monday, 9 August 2021 12:09 (two years ago) link
I know plenty of melts who still have no patience for terfdom tho. I guess you could argue he doesn't realise why this piece qualifies?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 9 August 2021 12:14 (two years ago) link
a lot of people just read the "oh my god disagreement is a dying luxury" bit and it tickles their melt pleasure centres so much they mayn't read the "also trans people shouldn't exist debate me"
― Tumbledown Duck (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 August 2021 12:34 (two years ago) link
can't read that Williams Tweet as anything but solidarity with terfdom tho tbh
― Tumbledown Duck (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 August 2021 12:35 (two years ago) link
That para did include guff about 'equality', generalising about others, stuff that if you weren't aware of how this debate operates on twitter you'd lamely like the look of.
I don't think Williams has a toilet obsession, is how I break it down.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 August 2021 12:45 (two years ago) link
Oh god, that’s lovely of you. Thank you. I hope others are as patient— Rachel Cooke (@MsRachelCooke) August 8, 2021
Ugh.
― pomenitul, Monday, 9 August 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link
does green heart white heart purple heart emoji mean "I'm a terf" ?
― rob, Monday, 9 August 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link
sorry I guess it means gEnDeR cRiTiCaL rmde
― rob, Monday, 9 August 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link
yes it's from the suffragette flag colours lol
― ufo, Monday, 9 August 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
Green - GiveWhite - WomenViolet - VotesThey aren’t allowed to used suffragette colours for terfiness, I ban them from it.
― Madchen, Monday, 9 August 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link
Sometimes they have an avi with a heart featuring the suffragette colours in stripes.
― the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 9 August 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
trans women are women
― plax (ico), Monday, 9 August 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
Problem is I've seen plenty of "not transphobic but not involved in trans liberation" feminists with those colours up too. They've co-opted what was a positive symbol, and there will be people who don't know about the co-option. Definitely worth double-checking if you see it, though.
― emil.y, Monday, 9 August 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
yeah i've seen that and its all v confusing
― plax (ico), Monday, 9 August 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
anyway these people (terfs) are such weirdos. who knows what they're on about most of the time. They start talking in weird tones about 'sex classes' and lesbians being attracted to vaginas (i had thought sexual attraction was at least somewhat more nuanced than that) and 'male-bodied' people. i would definitely say 'dud'.
― plax (ico), Monday, 9 August 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link
I lurk on Mum$n3t sometimes to my eternal shame, the feminism sub-board is basically wall-to-wall ranting about either changing rooms access or public figures who must be regarded as traitors if they haven't expressed searing hatred for anyone not espousing binary gender opinions. All very odd.
― the people of dorchester are marching upon us (Matt #2), Monday, 9 August 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
There does seem to be something slightly unhinged about transphobia.
― Soundtracked by an ecojazz mixtape (Tom D.), Monday, 9 August 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
Readers and fellow authors had been critical on Goodreads and Twitter of descriptions in the memoir, including the use of racial tropes such as “chocolate-coloured skin” and “almond-shaped eyes”, and references to one student as “African Jonathon” and another being “so small and square and Afghan with his big nose and premature moustache”.Another passage was highlighted for the inclusion of ableist descriptions, in which Clanchy, a poet and teacher, refers to two autistic children as “unselfconsciously odd” and “jarring company”, and writes “probably, more than an hour a week” in their company “would irritate me, too, but for that hour I like them very much”.
Another passage was highlighted for the inclusion of ableist descriptions, in which Clanchy, a poet and teacher, refers to two autistic children as “unselfconsciously odd” and “jarring company”, and writes “probably, more than an hour a week” in their company “would irritate me, too, but for that hour I like them very much”.
kudos to the Orwell Prize jury for awarding one to this Kate Clanchy book and Picador for publishing this racist/disablist garbage.
― calzino, Friday, 13 August 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
earlier clanchychat: Literary Clusterfucks 2013
― mark s, Saturday, 14 August 2021 09:22 (two years ago) link
ah yes the failure of the publishers to either not gaf or not notice what kind of content they are putting out is understandable in this era. The Orwell Prize jury on the other hand, they allegedly read this and considered it a prizeworthy book. Oh and of course now Lionel Shriver has waded in to defend this trash.
― calzino, Saturday, 14 August 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link
failure the wrong word there but u know what I mean
― calzino, Saturday, 14 August 2021 09:41 (two years ago) link
you could be forgiven for wondering if Clanchy has even read her own book here
― calzino, Saturday, 14 August 2021 09:53 (two years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/16/i-used-to-tut-at-people-who-need-glasses-to-read-a-menu-then-i-joined-them-I used to be a twat completely lacking in empathy! It's a Chiles format headline but he'd never be so crass.
― Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 06:07 (two years ago) link
that's psychotic
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 06:23 (two years ago) link
Yes, it's appalling.
Meanwhile:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/17/talibans-victory-afghanistan-laid-bare-western-hubris
In the shadow of New York’s burning twin towers, I was one swept along on that “something must be done” tide, that drumbeat for a war to stop terror and liberate oppressed people.
It's curious that history has repeatedly proven Jeremy Corbyn MP right, prudent and sensible about things, and the same people who were wrong get to go on calling him an irresponsible extremist.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 07:03 (two years ago) link
xxp just saw on Twitter that Zoe Williams also used to believe hayfever didn't exist.
― bovarism, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 09:50 (two years ago) link
jay raynor's latest observer review made me chuckle, though i have zero sympathy for people who eat at such a place tbh
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link
oh it was of 'polo lounge' in london.
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
jay rayner increasingly enraged as every dish arrives covered in polos
― mark s, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
"A £38 bowl of rigatoni bolognese has a grimly sweet and cloying sauce that tastes mostly of tomato ketchup and profit."
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link
Paying £38 for a bowl of bolognese is about boasting about the price you paid for it and nothing else. It's very clickbaity to write about it in the first place.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
Probably a liveblogging artifact but this paragraph is something:
Besides the US, the 227 nations in the EU and the UK, the statement was co-signed by Albania, Argentina and Australia, as well as Brazil, Canada and Chile. Colombia, Costa Rica and Ecuador were also signatories, as were El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. Added to them were North Macedonia, New Zealand and Norway, as well as Paraguay, Senegal and Switzerland.
― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link
love to liveblog on amphetamines
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
lol
― "Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
This is pathetic even by Guardian middle-class whinge standards
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/aug/14/there-is-holiday-hell-and-then-there-is-self-catering
Holiday Hell = having to provide your own condiments and travelling 20 mins to the nearest Tesco. Jesus
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Saturday, 21 August 2021 09:39 (two years ago) link
"Needless to say, the nearest Tesco is 20 minutes’ drive"
sympathy rating zero
― calzino, Saturday, 21 August 2021 09:53 (two years ago) link
shit it used to be a half hour walk to the nearest Tescos in Newquay, but it was a fun walk - because you are on holiday!
― calzino, Saturday, 21 August 2021 09:54 (two years ago) link
and bringing lots of wine, beer and horrible readymeals back to the caravan feels good.
― calzino, Saturday, 21 August 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link
the worst thing for me about this for me is (and I suspect many others) that I haven't had a holiday since 2010 and really don't want to see performative whinging by smug m-c pricks.
― calzino, Saturday, 21 August 2021 10:01 (two years ago) link
"20 minutes’ drive"
They have a car! Incredible.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 21 August 2021 10:40 (two years ago) link
if it's all about convenience then just stay at home, or get an air B n B that is in a flat above a Onestop.
― calzino, Saturday, 21 August 2021 11:06 (two years ago) link
― kinder, Saturday, 21 August 2021 12:04 (two years ago) link
the guardian published some really shitty sentences about afghanistan over the last couple of weeks, though i suppose everyone else did, too
― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 21 August 2021 12:26 (two years ago) link
Suzy on the politics thread pointed out a Guardian interview with Apsana Begum MP. I've now seen it.
I don't have a general view on the case, but Suzy was entirely correct to note how the interviewer spends a lot of time harassing ms Begum for living in a council house.
This is very bad as:a) it fails to understand principles and benefits of universal provision (one of which is that policymakers should live in council housing and then might care about it more)b) the interview is about how ms Begum was harassed about her home, and proceeds to ... harass her about how she should leave her home!
It's outrageous.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link
Leftwing outsider Sharon Graham elected as Unite union leaderKeir Starmer likely to be pleased with union’s choice of successor to Len McCluskey
Sure, Graun
― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:41 (two years ago) link
hah hah trying in vain to distance Kieth from the stench of defeat
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:50 (two years ago) link
It's Orwellian, somebody should write a book
― pings and noodles (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:51 (two years ago) link