outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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Hell yeah. I mean, it's kind of the only way.

Not entirely dissimilar from my recurring fantasy over the past month or so which involves some universally respected on both sides of the political spectrum person buying up universal airtime and hype
(Pretend it's a penitent Kanye or something. Anyway...) giving a speech just saying, "look. All of you ppl who are anti-reality and projecting your grievances onto political issues need to stop. You're ruining it for the rest of us. You're creating an insane world in which everyone is suspicious of everyone else 24/7, everyone is armed to the teeth in daycare centers, places of worship, grocery stores, strip clubs. Just stop this shit. Work out your personal unhappiness. But ffs don't project onto the rest of us, who are just trying to get through the day and raise our kids and grandkids amd take care of our pets and water out plants. It's fine if you don't believe in global warming, but what are you going to do if Jesus or Trump doesn't come back for 15 years or more? Address your own unhappiness (you freaks) Figure out your shit!! Your problem is likely your spouse/parent/employer and not biden/obama/hillary. Shame on you. [fifty seconds of hissing] The planet, the system that actually allows matt gaetz the literal air to say things is collapsing, at least in terma of human viability if you want more MGT, then at least make breathing a thing. Also, you guys are Nazis, just ftr. "

schwarzenegger basically did the perfect facebook post about antivaxers, the kind of thing you dream about saying to them. fat lot of good it did.

some universally respected on both sides of the political spectrum

You could try bringing back Jesus but the right would just hate him.

Tell me more Ivan Fyodorovich

Tracer, excellent point, as yeah, he woulda been a presumably non-objectionable figure to the right, but that moment of his came and went w/o much. Sucks.

Which adds to the seemingly constant
refrain these days -- why is there the constant expectation that the presumably willful ignorance, or, patently worse, malevolent bad faith spiteful grift of the right should be endlessly catered to and tiptoed around. I mean, if it were some abstract policy point, then fine to debate pro-wrestling style. Bring your absurd logic bad arguments to the table, by all means. But this is literally the future of your grandkids and theirs. I don't have kids, and am an extremely selfish shitty person, hate everyone, blah blah blah, and it still makes me apoplectic. There needs to be a universal uncompromising scolding of these people. Or else carve the country in two, unceremoniously, bc fuck this shit. Otherwise the future is global Alabama to put it at once mildly and starkly. (Ignoring a lot of global reality but this is a msg board, so)

separatism is not the answer sadly, there's lotsa cool folks in red country

yr frustration speaks to the larger issue for sure, compassion fatigue among health care workers and such

prob too much to hope for but this might be the tipping point in terms of the general public losing patience with these assholes

Sorry if my above post is alternately inarticulate or unhinged-sounding, but see karl malone's post upthread. We all have to read the news these days, just to function in basic sense, and constantly being exposed to all the weird other-sideism that is on the face irrational and sometimes just evil, to put it lazily, makes one feel like the simpsons frank grimes character

schwarzenegger basically did the perfect facebook post about antivaxers, the kind of thing you dream about saying to them. fat lot of good it did.

If it reached one Schwarzenegger-fan parent, it did good. You can’t expect that every moron or anti-vaxxer is a Schwarzenegger fan, would take Arnie’s advice over a doctor’s if they were, that any of them follow him on Facebook if they are fans, read enough of their feed to see every post if they do, were actively served that post vs 94 rabid anti-vax posts from randos that day, etc

Was wondering what happened to this guy. Basically all that posing and then he spends his last two months in misery.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/outspoken-conservative-radio-host-phil-valentine-dies-after-battling-covid-19

Then there’s this clod

https://news.yahoo.com/maga-rep-boasted-defying-pelosi-183421686.html

A strong read

https://www.minnpost.com/community-voices/2021/08/on-an-encounter-with-unvaccinated-america-at-the-hospital/

The man then asked if I felt “justified” in having my mother take up “valuable medical resources” when “people like my sister who have more of a right to live are in the hospital.”

BREAKING: The Rev. Jesse Jackson, 79, and his wife, Jacqueline, 77, have been hospitalized after testing positive for COVID-19.https://t.co/k6Vq3YngyJ

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 21, 2021

Well, as far as boosters go, if he was vaccinated in January, and indications are its effectiveness may begin to fade around 6 months, we're at, of course, 8 months. Hope they're OK.

And of course

VIDEO: Trump Booed at Alabama Rally for 'Get COVID-19 Vaccine' Remark

https://t.co/M0BT87be3e

— Mike Walker (@New_Narrative) August 22, 2021

Important work/finding by @Corine_GvK and @ErasmusMC team. Breakthrough (nearly all Delta) infections in healthcare workers had less viral culture positivity than primary infections despite similar Ct, viral load. Documents another benefit of vaccination: less infectious. Short🧵 https://t.co/gxrDdzxNoE

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) August 22, 2021

From most of what I’m reading, while antibodies can fade, t-cell immunity most likely lasts many years, so the vaccine doesn’t just “wear off”

This story eventually goes to where you think it does.

https://amp.gosanangelo.com/amp/8196516002

What, the Gofundme? I didn't see a "P.S., he died."

I'm glad the paper used "dying of COVID" instead of "fighting COVID" in the headline.

I checked out the Gofundme link, curious. One of the comments? "Keep up the good work against government overreach! We're praying for y'all!" Yeah, keep it up, Caleb.

“ He was so hard-headed," Jessica said. "He didn't want to see a doctor, because he didn't want to be part of the statistics with COVID tests."”

Whoops

"in addition to a DNR, he had an order written in crayon that said his death needs to be attributed to Being Too American in a Communist World"

He died for the lofty ideal that every American has the god-given right to make the jigsaw puzzle of a cottage at sunset look like a basket full of puppies by mangling the pieces and hammering them together "the right way".

Another death from whiteness.

Pretty Dead (for a White Guy)

"Show me the science that masks work," Caleb wrote on the City of San Angelo's official Facebook in December 2020. "Show me the evidence that school closures work. Show me the evidence that lock-downs work."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAoCyShBKjk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz-mJed_bP0

Are You Smarter Than an Anti-Vaxxer?

Many Have Failed, Think You Can Do Better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqUy8915gBg

_"Show me the science that masks work," Caleb wrote on the City of San Angelo's official Facebook in December 2020. "Show me the evidence that school closures work. Show me the evidence that lock-downs work."_


I guess he got what he asked for.

Prescient.

On July 4, 2020, Caleb helped organize "The Freedom Rally." A flyer for the event called it a peaceful protest by people “sick of the government being in control of our lives.”

Wake up, Sheeple!

The FDA is urging people to stop taking veterinary drugs to treat or prevent Covid-19 after receiving multiple reports of patients who have been hospitalized after "self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses," the FDA says. https://t.co/ZNXvsrwOsE

— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 22, 2021

All right!
Stop whatcha doin'
'Cause I'm about to ruin
The image and the style that ya used to
I look funny
But yo I'm makin' money, see
So yo world I hope you're ready for me

Now gather round
I'm the new fool in town
And my sound's laid down by the Underground
You are not a horse
You are not a cow
Come on y'all
Stop it, now

Hadn't considered them, but suddenly kind of craving veterinary drugs ...

Why can’t they be using ketamine

Ketamine is one of the tranquilizers they put you on during the last few weeks on a vent

Weird for a loved one to be in a k-hole in their final weeks. 6th sense style twist ending!!

Ketamine is one of the tranquilizers they put you on during the last few weeks on a vent

yup

Worst rave ever.

Everything's going great on the very active public Ivermectin Facebook groups.

Only a few people taking 10x what everyone else is taking, wondering what to do with a bottle of the injectable kind with a picture of cattle on it, or begging for earnest medical advice. pic.twitter.com/y22aJrtot3

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 23, 2021

Just so crushing

https://www.news4jax.com/health/2021/08/20/jacksonville-mother-loses-2-sons-to-covid-19-in-12-hours/

Separately, this is very interesting to me.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/08/22/exclusive-first-u-s-covid-deaths-came-earlier-and-in-different-places-than-previously-thought

I still have wondered all this time whether I might have had a very, very early US case of COVID in late December 2019, due to my travel to my parents involving a transfer from SF to SFO airport via BART and then a shuttle pickup from there to Carmel. (Given SFO’s central role as an airport for flights from China and Asia combined with the holiday season, I’ve long felt it was a possibility.) I had a very distinctly crappy cold that emerged at the end of that visit home after a few days, and which lingered for some while. No way to be sure but even so.

Everyone in my family but me travelled by plane in late January or February 2020, including to Georgia and DC on school trips, where they interacted with kids from around the country. My own presumed case of Covid came the first week of March, about a week and a half after both of my kids were sick for a couple of days. We suspected that maybe I got it from one of them, but neither my older daughter nor my wife ever tested positive for antibodies like I did. I do know a few people that had experiences like you describe, but it's a tough call, because that's bullseye cold and flu season anyway. Regardless, given so many people had/have no or mild symptoms anyway it's safe to assume it was definitely circulating throughout the tail end of 2019 and early 2020 before it all started to concentrate and compound in cities like NY.

No way to be sure but even so.

do you qualify for antibody testing?

At the time when I was wondering the most — about this time last year — I was thinking that whatever might have happened appeared not to have left a huge impact, it’s not like I have ‘long COVID’ as others have described it. So I was curious but not compelled to find out more. Then other things took precedence until this story here. I might ask my PCP about it.

I think if you have antibodies from the vaccine now there's no way to know if you had antibodies from before the vaccine. I spent a lot of time before the vaccine recommending people donate blood to the Red Cross to take advantage of their free antibody testing, but I don't know anyone else that actually did it. I kind of suspect far more people had covid than knew.

I qualified for antibody testing last December when my PCP recommended further blood work for an irregularity that thankfully amounted to nothing. I tested negative.