outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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"Show me the science that masks work," Caleb wrote on the City of San Angelo's official Facebook in December 2020. "Show me the evidence that school closures work. Show me the evidence that lock-downs work."


I guess he got what he asked for.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Sunday, 22 August 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

Are You Smarter Than an Anti-Vaxxer?

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 August 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

Many Have Failed, Think You Can Do Better?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 August 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqUy8915gBg

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 22 August 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link

_"Show me the science that masks work," Caleb wrote on the City of San Angelo's official Facebook in December 2020. "Show me the evidence that school closures work. Show me the evidence that lock-downs work."_


I guess he got what he asked for.


He found that essence rare (COVID filled droplets).

Bach on harmonica! (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 22 August 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

Prescient.

On July 4, 2020, Caleb helped organize "The Freedom Rally." A flyer for the event called it a peaceful protest by people “sick of the government being in control of our lives.”

epistantophus, Sunday, 22 August 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

Wake up, Sheeple!

The FDA is urging people to stop taking veterinary drugs to treat or prevent Covid-19 after receiving multiple reports of patients who have been hospitalized after "self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses," the FDA says. https://t.co/ZNXvsrwOsE

— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 22, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link

All right!
Stop whatcha doin'
'Cause I'm about to ruin
The image and the style that ya used to
I look funny
But yo I'm makin' money, see
So yo world I hope you're ready for me

Now gather round
I'm the new fool in town
And my sound's laid down by the Underground
You are not a horse
You are not a cow
Come on y'all
Stop it, now

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link

Hadn't considered them, but suddenly kind of craving veterinary drugs ...

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

Why can’t they be using ketamine

Bach on harmonica! (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 August 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link

Ketamine is one of the tranquilizers they put you on during the last few weeks on a vent

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Monday, 23 August 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link

Weird for a loved one to be in a k-hole in their final weeks. 6th sense style twist ending!!

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Monday, 23 August 2021 02:31 (two years ago) link

Ketamine is one of the tranquilizers they put you on during the last few weeks on a vent


Serious?

Bach on harmonica! (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 August 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link

yup

sleeve, Monday, 23 August 2021 02:43 (two years ago) link

Worst rave ever.

Bach on harmonica! (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 August 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

Everything's going great on the very active public Ivermectin Facebook groups.

Only a few people taking 10x what everyone else is taking, wondering what to do with a bottle of the injectable kind with a picture of cattle on it, or begging for earnest medical advice. pic.twitter.com/y22aJrtot3

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 04:41 (two years ago) link

Separately, this is very interesting to me.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/08/22/exclusive-first-u-s-covid-deaths-came-earlier-and-in-different-places-than-previously-thought

I still have wondered all this time whether I might have had a very, very early US case of COVID in late December 2019, due to my travel to my parents involving a transfer from SF to SFO airport via BART and then a shuttle pickup from there to Carmel. (Given SFO’s central role as an airport for flights from China and Asia combined with the holiday season, I’ve long felt it was a possibility.) I had a very distinctly crappy cold that emerged at the end of that visit home after a few days, and which lingered for some while. No way to be sure but even so.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 05:38 (two years ago) link

Everyone in my family but me travelled by plane in late January or February 2020, including to Georgia and DC on school trips, where they interacted with kids from around the country. My own presumed case of Covid came the first week of March, about a week and a half after both of my kids were sick for a couple of days. We suspected that maybe I got it from one of them, but neither my older daughter nor my wife ever tested positive for antibodies like I did. I do know a few people that had experiences like you describe, but it's a tough call, because that's bullseye cold and flu season anyway. Regardless, given so many people had/have no or mild symptoms anyway it's safe to assume it was definitely circulating throughout the tail end of 2019 and early 2020 before it all started to concentrate and compound in cities like NY.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 August 2021 12:25 (two years ago) link

No way to be sure but even so.

do you qualify for antibody testing?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 12:38 (two years ago) link

At the time when I was wondering the most — about this time last year — I was thinking that whatever might have happened appeared not to have left a huge impact, it’s not like I have ‘long COVID’ as others have described it. So I was curious but not compelled to find out more. Then other things took precedence until this story here. I might ask my PCP about it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link

I think if you have antibodies from the vaccine now there's no way to know if you had antibodies from before the vaccine. I spent a lot of time before the vaccine recommending people donate blood to the Red Cross to take advantage of their free antibody testing, but I don't know anyone else that actually did it. I kind of suspect far more people had covid than knew.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 August 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link

I qualified for antibody testing last December when my PCP recommended further blood work for an irregularity that thankfully amounted to nothing. I tested negative.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

like half the people I know think they had Covid in early 2020. obviously I don't know but I remember back in Feb 2020 my wife had this weird episode where she couldn't really taste anything but salt. a week later I was in the clinic getting tested for the flu, which I swore I had because I felt so sick, but I tested negative. my Mom also said she was very sick at this time. lmao @ if we locked down so hard despite already having it

frogbs, Monday, 23 August 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

In the early stages of the pandemic, we assumed that we had already been in contact with it since my wife works in health care. We had also had a particularly nasty cold in early winter. We were still sheltering and taking as many precautions as we could, but we had our fingers crossed that we had somehow been through it already without any of the worst symptoms. When she finally got an antibody test in May 2020, it was a huge disappointment to learn that she had not yet had it.

peace, man, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:01 (two years ago) link

FDA granted full approval to Pfizer vaccine. All our problems our solved!

Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

BREAKING: South Dakota sees the country’s LARGEST two-week COVID surge with a 230%+ increase in cases in the wake of the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.

— MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) August 22, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

Good morning!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

so doesn't that mean, given SD's population, the entire state is infected?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

I think if you have antibodies from the vaccine now there's no way to know if you had antibodies from before the vaccine. I spent a lot of time before the vaccine recommending people donate blood to the Red Cross to take advantage of their free antibody testing, but I don't know anyone else that actually did it. I kind of suspect far more people had covid than knew.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, August 23, 2021 8:59 AM bookmarkflaglink

there are specific antibody tests that test for prior infection that won't pick up the vaccine. i dont' know what they are, though.

I knwo this because I got an antibody test at my doctor's behest and then in the results it said IF YOU HAVE BEEN VACCINATED, YOU WILL GET A NEGATIVE RESULT HERE BECAUSE THIS TEST PICKS UP PRIOR INFECTION

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I dunno. I asked the facilitator of the antibody study I've been enrolled in if the study is now moot, now that the vaccine has pumped me full of fresh antibodies, and she said they were just going to shift to following *those* levels rather than the (fading) natural antibodies that were there before.

Re: the FDA, all those hundreds of millions of doses were given *before* it was approved so of course those should be totally discounted. I'm waiting to see what happens after hundreds of millions of doses of the *safe* vaccine are given before I give it a chance myself.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link

The fuck is this

The Pfizer vaccine "will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee)"$PFE $BNTX https://t.co/GveqPaeXNu

— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

"Nah I'm waiting on Dexylfentazurmin."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

Goalposts, goalposts, never were there such movable goalposts...

Fox responded to FDA's full approval of the Pfizer vaccine by asking if it was rushed

"FDA just giving full approval to Pfizer's COVID vaccine, it's the first vaccine to get that full approval and in record time too, that has critics asking if the process was rushed. Was it?" pic.twitter.com/gadMyxB4vY

— Lis Power (@LisPower1) August 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

Well, WAS IT?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

You tell me, you can do research with the Google like I can.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

My Google machine stopped working and I can't buy the AA batteries at the moment.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link

it was the first to be approved and also faster to be approved than any others that were approved huh

in a bar, under the (seandalai), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

Ahh, so 'the approval was rushed!' will be the new talking point for idiots who want to die but can't commit to the staid formality of actual Russian roulette.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

Can't trademark Coronavirus Vaccine.

Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

Goalposts, goalposts, never were there such movable goalposts...

Every bit helps, I guess, but this is the least surprising development ever and is why full FDA approval is only going to help a very small percentage of the innocently confused as opposed to the much higher percentage of stupidly evil.

Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

I knew the goalposts would move upon full approval, but even I didn't expect it to happen that fast. FOX is a menace to public health and needs to be treated as such.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

i don't care about the noise, it was already there. more mask mandates will now be arriving and any increase in the # of people who get the vaccine is good. it needed to happen.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link

yeah, this is undoubtedly good news. This weekend we returned to a million-plus vaccines a day. Those operating in good faith who said they awaited FDA approval have nothing holding them back now.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

Yeah the cascade of requirements that'll kick in here will be something.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, it's an incredibly positive development. Just watching the all very vaccinated FOX hosts "just ask questions" about the safety is fucking unconscionable and borderline criminal.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link


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