i don't care about the noise, it was already there. more mask mandates will now be arriving and any increase in the # of people who get the vaccine is good. it needed to happen.
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link
yeah, this is undoubtedly good news. This weekend we returned to a million-plus vaccines a day. Those operating in good faith who said they awaited FDA approval have nothing holding them back now.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
Yeah the cascade of requirements that'll kick in here will be something.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 August 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
Don't get me wrong, it's an incredibly positive development. Just watching the all very vaccinated FOX hosts "just ask questions" about the safety is fucking unconscionable and borderline criminal.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
...it's the first vaccine to get that full approval and in record time too
omg I can't even begin to think why
― Diggin Holes (Ste), Monday, 23 August 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link
If the Republicans were in charge you know they would overrule the FDA then launch a two-year investigation into whether or not it was rushed, and then also tie it to George Soros and the Clinton Foundation.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 August 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link
they're going to do that anyway
― professional anti- (Karl Malone), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
Turning Points dipshit Charlie Kirk was in town here over the weekend, speaking to our county Republican Party (who paid him $20,000 just to come, the grift never ends). At one point he declared "I am not vaccinated, and I will not be," and got a loud round of applause. Anti-vaxx is now the mainstream GOP position, at least around here. Republican officials who probably HAVE been vaccinated won't admit it in public for fear of backlash. What a shitshow.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
He’s less dangerous than elder?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
"Secrets Swingers Club hereby demands all its swingers be vaccinated...."
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
“He’s less dangerous than elder?”Wrong thread ignore me
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 August 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
i think there’s something deep in the red-meat truck drivin mentality of the red stater that was really primed for this. it’s the mentality of the motorcyclist. yeah it’s dangerous. but i don’t care. you might want to live in fear buddy, not me. so my chances of disease are higher, so what? it’s my choice. i smoke, i ride motorcycles. i’m ready to die. i’m right with god. i’d rather just just one month without fear than the rest of my life in a cage. and just because YOU disagree doesn’t mean i have to live by your rules. oh my decisions affect you too? well YOUR decisions affect ME too! who are you to say your scared-ass beliefs should trump mine, KAREN?
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 August 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
Unfortunately that sounds about right. I don't have any openly anti-vaxxers in my media feeds but occasionally some acquaintance posts something vaguely like "I'd rather _______ than live in fear" or "blah blah so divisive these days" and they clearly think they're taking, like, the neutral middle "reasonable" line.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
the "argument to moderation" logical fallacy is probably the one that drives me the most up the wall.
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link
fully vaxxed motorcyclist here.
― bulb after bulb, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link
Is the GOP really such a collection of morons that they don't realize their antivax rhetoric stands a good chance of decimating their own constituency? Or are they just going full Jim Jones at this point?
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link
The biggest disconnect in the whole "I don't want to live in fear" mentality is also feeling like you need to take a handgun to buy eggs at Kroger.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
"i don't want to live in fear"
*very obviously lives in state of complete fear and paranoia*
― professional anti- (Karl Malone), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Monday, August 23, 2021 11:16 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
there's a pretty solid chance that covid deaths materially affected the election outcome in wisconsin and arizona in 2020.
so, the short answer is...yes
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
I smoke AND ride motorcycles.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
lol sorry bulb. not all motorcyclists!
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
okay so the analogy’s not perfect xpostbut i feel like the impulse is similar. and it’s very attractive. you want to live in a society that’s perfectly safe and everybody tells you what to do all the time go right ahead. but me i want to LIVE my LIFE. yeah maybe i need to pack a gun sometimes. that’s cause life gets fuckin real and raw (i’ve heard) and i don’t mind dealing with it head on. yeah I’M A LITTLE BIT OF A BADASS.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
like that’s some deep down identity shit that “epidemiology” isn’t going to make a dent in
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
I'm curious because I recently moved to WI and not trying to be overtly interrogative, but do you have a source for this?
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
i do not!
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
― professional anti- (Karl Malone), Monday, August 23, 2021 12:19 PM (ten minutes ago)
comirnaty dread
― rob, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
Posse Comirnaty
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
in fact, i was overestimating the number of covid deaths in wisconsin, which is currently at 8.6k (would've been many less in november).
xps
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
it's probably a mistake to assume significantly more Republican voters died of this come Nov 2020 when nobody was vaccinated but I wouldn't be surprised if this winds up swinging a close one next year
― frogbs, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
Be nice if DeSantis died of COVID
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s720x720/239723722_10158204553366500_4675306312778919555_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=IF27F_o3GnIAX_cq942&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=3799ae3af608fb7d6159c0cbeee0fe17&oe=614871CB
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
I'm sorry. A mod can remove that if it's triggering anyone. It came up in my feed yesterday posted by someone who only posts like once a year and that was her yearly contribution.
That's exactly what I'm talking about
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
It doesn't matter that it's utterly untrue, it feels true
I think Simba had free health care iirc
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
I think Tracer Hand nailed the mindset, even if the connection to motorcycles was based in stereotyping. It is a bravado that rationalizes doing whatever your appetites, desires and fantasies suggest, no matter what the risk or danger and it lasts right up until the moment the person crashes into a wall of reality. There are thousands of paraplegics out there whose last moment of health was spent whooping with joyous abandon as they dove off a cliff into shallow water.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link
Trump Jr just off camera aiming a massive cannon at lion #2
― rob, Monday, 23 August 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
everything about his quality of life is his own responsibility except for encroaching human habitats, poachers, hunter tourism, mass prey die-off due to drought from climate change, general poisoning of the ecosystem, basically the impact of asshole humans who don't acknowledge that their actions alter the lives of everyone around them....
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
Hmm yes precisely.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 23 August 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
the brother of a friend, a guy in his 50s, is several weeks into a hospital stay because he had a no-helmet single-rider motorcycle wreck ... during multiple emergency surgeries they discovered he had COVID, which was helpful when he had to go on a ventilator for a while ... he seems to be doing better, just posted a photo of his cast-and-brace-covered leg with the caption "only 8 or 9 more surgeries to go"
he lives in Florida btw
― Brad C., Monday, 23 August 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
More like identifying with lions because they are alpha predators with no natural enemies (other than humans), but the person who posted that is far more in the position of an aging gazelle the 'free' lion is gazing at hungrily.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
NYC just mandated all employees to be vaccinated with no opt-outs.
Teacher's union responded with some vague language re: collective bargaining, but that's just going to be details (I hope).
― Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
Sorry, NYC schools.
Good, although I'm curious to see what kind of shitshow there is going to be if a significant number of teachers either leave or just don't comply.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
I've seen a couple of threads w people having meltdowns talking about quitting and boohoo won't they be sorry when "all" the teachers quit, and, like...no one is going to miss your Long Island blue lives matter bumpersticker ass. Kids will be better off without ever knowing what you think of their selves and their families.
Fuh.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
Based purely on anecdotes, I'd guess more teachers have left or are leaving because of all the other miseries of COVID education than will because of vaccine mandates. Literally every teacher I know got a vaccine as soon as they could. Some went to other states and counties to do it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
Where are they going to go? The state is expected to have a similar mandate very soon.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
the majority of teachers want vaccine mandates as it is going to save lives
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 August 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
I am going to guess the ratio of teachers who don't want the vax and who are bad teachers approaches 1:1.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Monday, 23 August 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link
approaches 1:1
Maybe not so simple a ratio as that, especially in the kindergarten through 2nd grade. But I definitely understand the sentiment.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 23 August 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link