outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

Just wait until they OK the vax for under 12 and that vaccination rate drops.

This response to the earlier tweet made me lol

A friend told me that hours after having the AZ jab, one of his nipples started dispensing pina colada and he couldn't stop singing the score to HMS Pinafore. Over the next 4 days he gained the ability to judge the exact weight of any vegetable just by looking at it.

— Tony (@Prague_Tony) August 27, 2021

haha

pic.twitter.com/nfAV1wCUKa

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) August 27, 2021

that "haha" is in response to table, not the tweet i posted. every death of an anti-vaxxer police officer is a tragedy or whatever.

But yeah, this shit is incredibly heavy and I'm more and more infuriated with anti-vaxxers every day.

We've talked about this elsewhere on ILX and previously on these threads, but the obstinate, murderous idiocy of people who believe that their opinion outweighs objective medical facts is just completely confounding to me.

It's not even THEIR opinion. Karl put it best when he talked about his father taking the opinion of "someone (not even a defined source or person) on Facebook" over the pleas of their doctors and family members.

I’ve heard that one too, from an aunt - “I never really get sick”. Stupendous logic, good luck with that.

I've never died, so obviously I am never going to.

My wife was just talking with a friend that works as a nurse in a west side ER. She said that yesterday she saw six people die of gun shot wounds, but no one dying of covid, so ... phew, right? (sighs) She said that of course there *are* people catching covid and coming in, too, but their lives are so chaotic that covid is the least of their concerns. Anyway, her takeaway was that covid is ironically the factor unifying racist idiots and the people the racist idiots hate the most, unvaxxed in the ERs, together at last.

"I have an immune system" is even stupider than the freedom stuff

https://www.businessinsider.com/colorado-anti-vaxxer-sheriffs-deputy-dies-of-covid-19-complications-2021-5

'Three weeks before his death, Trujillo had updated his Facebook profile picture to include a border that read, "I have an immune system," the MailOnline said.'

https://smile.amazon.com/Anti-Vaccine-Shirt-immune-system/dp/B07FHD59XJ

pic.twitter.com/NxmdfsGruv

— ashley (@ashrpash) August 27, 2021

xpost Does his tombstone read 'he had an immune system'

i have a belly button

lol

He had an immune system yes, but sadly our yellow sun failed to transfer all his other super powers.

Whoops just fell and broke my leg in seven places, good thing I have an immune system.

I had a friend who used to drive right over potholes, saying "that's what the suspension is for."

Got the news this morning that an IT guy where I used to work died yesterday from the delta variant. 50ish, abhorrent political views, don't want to speculate on his vax status - he went into the hospital on the 13th.

(i tried scrolling to see if this was shared already but it looks like it hasn't. sorry if it has)

oh boy. anti-vaxxers are going to have a field day with this one:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-no-infection-parties

The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus. In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.

“The differences are huge,” says Thålin, although she cautions that the numbers for infections and other events analyzed for the comparisons were “small.” For instance, the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group. And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people, versus 19 reinfections among a similar number of people who once had SARS-CoV-2.

No one in the study who got a new SARS-CoV-2 infection died—which prevented a comparison of death rates but is a clear sign that vaccines still offer a formidable shield against serious disease, even if not as good as natural immunity. Moreover, natural immunity is far from perfect. Although reinfections with SARS-CoV-2 are rare, and often asymptomatic or mild, they can be severe.

i included that last paragraph as, let's say, to provide more context. but as a non-expert, it seems pretty clear to me that this is starting to be endemic.

from what i can gather:

we all have or will get some amount of covid virus load in our lifetime. each person may require different amounts of virus load to feel/get sick, which means we may all have some level of "immunity" or "protection" due to our body fighting off different amounts of virus loads. i feel like this may be related to asymptomatic cases, which would make sense to me (not that this should mean much to anyone)

i say anti-vaxxers are going to have a field day because the whole "textbook" immunity is what they were saying. i'm not for politicizing getting vaccinated, but this may fuel more of the politicizing, as right wing/conservatives/republicans have been saying this since the beginning of the pandemic

personally, if all this is true and i wasn't vaccinated, i would still prefer the first time i'm exposed to covid to be through a vaccine, even though it may not offer more immunity from re-infection than getting covid. but i feel like there will still be a lot of people who will not see it that way

but this may fuel more of the politicizing

oh dear. i hope this doesn't get politicized

would still prefer the first time i'm exposed to covid to be through a vaccine

nb: the mRNA vaccines do not expose you to covid

just to save the response and then my dumbass snarky response: yes, we all realize it's already politicized, but no, we do not yet all realize that it's been politicized to the 100% level. it physically cannot be more politicized. the atoms of political belief cannot be any more solid than they already are. it is dense and total

In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.

ok

the higher hospitalization rate in the 32,000-person analysis was based on just eight hospitalizations in a vaccinated group and one in a previously infected group.

ok

vaccines don’t “expose you to covid” btw

nb: the mRNA vaccines do not expose you to covid

― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, August 27, 2021 12:24 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ya, i know. i just didn't know how to articulate this...i mean, if i can get immunity from getting covid or getting vaccinated, i'd rather be vaccinated, even though getting vaccinated doesn't offer as much protection from getting reinfected.

technically, i guess it would be first exposure to the spike protein, which is shared by both covid and the vaccine

but i feel like there will still be a lot of people who will not see it that way

It would really be a shame if these people die of covid.

lol

well, that's the thing. they are more likely to have more protection than you is the irony, lol

want a glimpse of hell?

fine with me if people get vacced...I am gd with my decision...the vacc roll out in IL Jan (1a) had to be over 65...dad was not...second rollout 1b notification went out Jan 28th (thurs)to those registered and then go get vacced...he had mild cold starting following Tues SO even if he had wanted vacc which he didn't it would have been too late BUT early treatment if had been televised like WASH HANDS SOCIAL DISTANCE AND WEAR MASK would have saved his life if I would have known also thousands of others before vacc came out...I don't know who was and still is behind the hush on early treatments but they are evil wicked sinister killers

well, that's the thing. they are more likely to have more protection than you is the irony, lol

― Punster McPunisher, Friday, August 27, 2021 2:52 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well the other thing is that those strident anti-vaxxers who miraculously manage to tiptoe through the COVID raindrops unscathed are going to subsequently feel so completely immortal and will remain just as pigheaded and stupid and (let's be honest) clearly ready to stop being alive as they were before (if not intensely moreso) that a sizable number of them will almost certainly still wind up dying prematurely of something stupid and preventable. These are not people built for longevity.

well, that's the thing. they are more likely to have more protection than you is the irony, lol

The dead ones will have the most protection of all. lol!1!!!111111!1111

Fuck out of here with this shit.

BREAKING Florida Weekly DOH Report

Positive rate down to 16.8%
Inferred cases for tomorrow: 22,514
Deaths: 1,727 is new RECORD
Weekly vaccinations continue to climb

Too many more deaths to come. But this is consistent with plateau (even some improvement) from VERY high levels. https://t.co/l5W4yLkWq3 pic.twitter.com/p9FQ3xki3Y

— (((Howard Forman))) (@thehowie) August 27, 2021

read the whole thread though - almost 32% of this week's cases were kids 19 and younger o_O

Hmm, really, you surprise me with this news.

Virginia's Liberty University Announces Campus-Wide Quarantine amid Rise in COVID Cases https://t.co/fyjGIcrfkG

— DonnaCassata (@DonnaCassata) August 28, 2021

Well blow me down

Thought they believed in freedom down there

A friend and I wondered if we were seeing the usual #Floridafraud with the high number of Miami-Dade County vaccinations. How can so many hospitalizations keep happening when our overall jab rate is the best in the state and ranks with some northeastern US counties? He theorizes we're getting too many people flying in and making up an address to get jabbed.

I can't speak for Miami Dade, but a lot of the people in our metro hospitals here are not necessarily from the city/county but from outlying (less vaccinated) areas.

What’s the benefit of making up an address for the jab? Not sure I follow that logic.

I think Tipsy's explanation makes more sense than Alfred's friend's.

If you come from overseas, there’s been a lot of vaccine tourism into the US.

i know some older folks vacationing around neighboring states to get 3rd and 4th shots, like, on whims

The article buries the lede but this tweet sums it up

30-year-old leader of a prominent anti-mask, anti-vax organization got Covid, tried to treat it with horse paste, and is now dead. he leaves behind 3 kids and a pregnant wife https://t.co/KCt5EanigQ

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) August 28, 2021

Wait, so they made paste out of a 30-year old horse that died of Covid? I thought that's what they do with old horses.

rest in pieces

p sure that article was upthred (or on the other thred)

I think it was updated with " ... and now he's dead."

Epitaph: 'He died as he lived: worm-free.'

Well frickin' THAT took long enough

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— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 28, 2021

The damage done

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-28/la-me-rural-california-covid-surge-vaccinations-lag

Such genius

Gilles Simon on vaccination:

“Basically, I really did not want to. I am not very afraid of Covid. My basic philosophy is: If you are afraid of it, you vaccinate, otherwise , you don’t”

Today: *Simon’s coach tests positive for COVID, meaning Gilles must withdraw*

…

— Olly 🎾🇬🇧 (@Olly_2021) August 28, 2021