discogs marketplace?

Awful - yeah, there were some stores even that would re-shrink used albums in the 70s. The first clue I got was when I was about to list an album as Mint/VG+ when I noticed the cutout didn’t go through the shrink - that is, the album had at some point been cutout, opened, & re-sealed. When I opened it, the record was VG at best & it went in the bargain bin instead of Discogs.

I got another batch of records where the record store had put stickers on the jackets “this album has been tested & plays perfectly” and some of them had shrink over top of the stickers.

As a seller I offer to open & inspect sealed records as an option, but no buyer has ever asked me to do so.

I dunno what I’d do if I was on the other side of your sitch; probably refund the price difference between the M and the actual grade.

yeah its a tough spot for the seller to be in. not gonna leave bad feedback bc its such a strange rare situation, but just annoying.

my first tipoff that something was weird was that the record had a huge sticker on the front of the shrink that says "FACTORY SEALED!" which, uhh, i'm pretty sure they dont put on at the factory, lol

When you see that on a beer bottle, that’s when you wanna start worrying.

Awful - yeah, there were some stores even that would re-shrink used albums in the 70s. The first clue I got was when I was about to list an album as Mint/VG+ when I noticed the cutout didn’t go through the shrink - that is, the album had at some point been cutout, opened, & re-sealed. When I opened it, the record was VG at best & it went in the bargain bin instead of Discogs.

FWIW, one of the deejays in Chicago (I can't remember who) once recalled on-air when she worked at a record store, there was some douchebag who would come in every month to buy a stack of records AND a pack of cassettes. He would then come back a few days later and return all of his opened records (but not the cassettes). Before my time, but I was stunned that was even doable when it was obvious what the customer was doing - I guess that probably led to a lot of "re-seals."

Maybe you're trying to be fair to the seller or just don't want the hassle but don't rule out returning it for a full refund. If you used PayPal you'll have strong protections and they can reimburse return postage.

dealers can usually tell when the seal is real. those 70s pressings have those little breather holes.

Before my time, but I was stunned that was even doable

People routinely bought books, read them, and returned them when I worked at a bookstore. Didn't even lie about it, because management didn't care. Unsold books got pulped so it didn't even really matter that much other than being a hassle for the cashier processing a return (and fucking over the author of course). Graphic novels were a popular item for this, like manga that costs $9 but you can read in about two hours.

They're raising USPS prices for the holiday season again (between Oct. 3 and Dec. 26, 2021) - doesn't effect media mail but heavier and faster services will be a little more costly. I guess this is going to be an annual thing now?

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/national-releases/2021/0810-usps-announces-proposed-temporary-rate-adjustments-for-2021-peak-holiday-season.htm

Found this gem last night:
https://www.frogworth.com/Discogs%20lol.png

I would say 98% of my orders are paid within seconds. With the ones that aren’t paid instantly, up to this point I’ve generally sent a friendly reminder the next day like “Thanks for your order; I can send it out upon receipt of payment, cheers” type of thing, but at this point I’m inclined to not do anything at all until receipt of payment (including even locating the fucking thing in the stacks) and just let non-payers time out & get the auto-feedback. What’s everyone else doing in this regard?

i myself have been a non-payer through just being a total space cadet but tbf discogs' UX is TERRIBLE in that there is a big honking "pay now" button that does not actually pay now, it sends a message to the seller and caculates the shipping and then presents you with an extra step to pay (iirc back in the old days you even needed to wait for the seller to respond with the shipping charges, further breaking down the system) and it's definitely happened that i've switched tabs in that little interstice, forgotten about it and then had sellers gently prodding me and then i get all flustered when i remember that i was buying a £35 grant green album at 2 in the morning

i just let it sit, it drops out of the cart in a week or two, right?

i don't know, i always end up paying for it. i DID want it. sometimes the seller is kind of pissed, i feel bad.

My payment threshold is 14 days, so I usually send polite reminders after 5 days and 10 days. Discogs emails its own reminder after 13 days, I think. The 5 day reminder frequently elicits a response.

I paid instantly till recently when purchased and paid for items were in stock and the refund I got back with exchange rate fuckery I ended up with less in my PayPal than I had before. I think it's fair for buyers to wait for confirmation that items are in stock.

*weren't in stock

wtf who takes 5 days to pay after checkout

I submit the problem here is the app, desktop browser wirks great for orders

https://i.ibb.co/j5v3xMr/refund.jpg

Here's how I got stung. PayPal account before purchase was 11.13EUR (+CC Payment) and after the my refund I was left with just 3.14EUR on my PayPal because the guy didn't have something in stock so I asked to cancel the order.

I still haven't left the seller feedback but it really annoyed me.

I think it's fair if someone hasn't paid to just confirm you have the stock and that you will send it as soon as payment is received.

is that Nicolas Milcent? that fucker ripped me off as well

Different Nicholas

How did you lose money when you got a full refund?

My PayPal account went from 11.13 Eu before sending that (as well as a CC payment that was refunded in full) to 3.14 Eu after the refund. My guess is the Euro vs the NZD strengthened in between me paying him and him giving me the refund. 7.99 EU is unaccounted for?

Did he give a full refund or partial refund? Find it difficult to believe that changes in exchange rate over a week or two would eat up 3/4 of the refund.

Ah, misunderstood your post. I thought the item cost 11.13, I guess that exchange rate around have made a difference given it was 130 Euro.

There's an image a few posts earlier that shows the details of the two transactions and the balance of my PayPal before and after.

It's only the difference between 11.13€ and 3.14€ but I think that's still far more than you'd expect for the exchange rate difference over four days. It doesn't look like a prtial refund - it's showing the same figures as for the original payment.

I don't really understand why it would affect your paypal balance if it went to the credit card but maybe that's how the do it.

what happened to me was super weird, dude prob never sent the tape, I told him I'd have to take it to PayPal after a while, he said OK, I got a refund, then an email from PayPal saying "your refund has been delayed", then it was canceled, this then happened like 4 times and the last time he sent the "payment" PayPal closed the case and I couldn't seem to reopen it no matter where I navigated to.

then, of course, that last one was canceled as well

I don't really understand why it would affect your paypal balance if it went to the credit card but maybe that's how the do it.

I use the PayPal credit I have from selling records to buy more but this purchase I only had 11.13 EU as a balance so the rest of the payment was deducted from my credit card. I would expect to get the same amount back but I didn't even though the refund was the full amount. The only thing I can think of is the exchange rate changing so the credit was full for my credit card but only partial of my PayPal balance. It's weird to me too.

OK, yeah I think that could make sense. It's maybe worth knowing as well that if a refund is issued within 24 hours Paypal uses the same exchange rate as the original payment.

Right. Too bad this guy took 4 days after receiving payment to work out he didn't have it.

To be honest, that's happened with me occasionally. An item I thought I had, turned out to have been sold a long time back. I have processed full refunds in those cases, and everyone's been fine. Apart from one who went on ridiculous and wanted to sue for compensation for the disappointment, but I never heard a peep after day two so hey.

I can see how it could happen, but from now on I will ask for confirmation that the items are in stock before I process a payment. If that means the seller has to locate them, so what? They will need to to ship them anyway.

And if you're a seller and the buyer has purchased but not processed payment I don't see the big deal in confirming items are in stock and you will get them shipped as soon as payment clears.

Agreed, it’s not a big deal to do so. I’ve sent dude a reminder as such. Thanks for the feedback!

I agree with you, but the temptation to pay it then and there is strong.

Why does 90% of my wantlist always consist of listings from Europe? I can’t figure out if Americans don’t sell their records or if I’m just looking for albums that were released by European labels or something.

Sometimes I just accidentally add the UK or European version to my wantlist, but sometimes it'll be the US edition and still when I click on the link it's like:

16 For Sale from $24.99

Well, that almost seems like a reasonable price!

$24.99
+$40.00 shipping
$64.99 total

Ships From:Peru

I think certain UK sellers just relist their entire stock more often. the first two pages of my wantlist are always the same 2-3 shops over and over again. definitely wish there were an easier way to filter around this

You have 17 new items in your wantlist

Same overpriced stuff every day from the same sellers.

Sad_trombone.mp3

I've been dying for a filter that only shows me US listings of things in my wantlist. It's such a slog to scroll through, as frogbs said, the same damn relistings every single day in the "98 new albums for sale in your wantlist" emails, and they are also international so they're not only part of the furniture in the emails but wouldn't have been a consideration either way. And yeah I've wondered similar things as zacata... why is discogs more of an international marketplace overall? Most items for sale seem to be dominated by sellers outside US regardless of whether they're relisted or not.

You can filter by USD which at least gets you like halfway there

one thing that really annoys me is all the stuff listed at unserious prices, since these are the albums that are always clogging up the wantlist. you know the ones, where the lowest/median/highest is like $15/20/25 and then every available copy is $55+. I wish you could just filter out anything that's like 10% above the highest price.

Yeah from their perspective it makes sense for them to, whether manually or with algorithms that adjust pricing competitively constantly, price things opportunistically if it seems an album might be on track to become rarer than the demand, but agreed like you I'm not interested in being the buyer that puts it on that track. To that same point I sometimes wonder about the person who bought something for +$20 more than what it sold for like a month or less prior. These people either do not fret over being a sucker and overpaying or they needed [album] BAD and they need it NOW.

Just got my first negative feedback from a buyer who was having problems with PayPal. I have received the payment, seemingly immediately, and was none the wiser there had been an issue. The negative feedback was left five minutes after the order was placed.

Did a purchase yesterday, I think my first since all the changes to automate shipping costs. I paid right away but the seller still has to review things and say it's looking fine, I guess (take the status from payment pending to payment received). Fine by me as I'm familiar with the site... but I could see how people would be confused by "pending" after they just paypal'd funds that the site should be aware of.

The negative feedback referenced an issue with a catchpa, which is very much out of my control, and seems to have successfully completed a number of other sales on Discogs. Just a bit frustrating.

You can definitely get that removed

In the meantime, you can always post a reply to the feedback, which everyone will be able to see.

Hi, have written the reply and will request removal, though have first asked the buyer to remove it.

I can accept negative feedback for something that was in my control, tbf this just looks like someone was pissed off and that appeared the route to complain!