(first 1 problem, I know...)
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 3 September 2021 08:07 (two years ago) link
world
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 3 September 2021 08:08 (two years ago) link
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― Number None, Friday, 3 September 2021 08:13 (two years ago) link
The update that allowed you to unlock your iPhone if are wearing an Apple Watch has been a godsend in the face mask era.
― Jeff, Friday, 3 September 2021 11:55 (two years ago) link
Apple are rumoured to be bringing in-screen TouchID back but doesn’t look like they got it in production in time for the iPhone 13.
― Alba, Friday, 3 September 2021 12:06 (two years ago) link
FaceID works fine for me when I'm wearing sunglasses.
― DJI, Friday, 3 September 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
You need to get the special Apple sunglasses. They're $300 and can't get wet.
― cardio free europe (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 September 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link
ahah. Surprising that it can work with sunglasses on. Mine just won't unlock if it can't see my eyes.And to add to the issue : it's even worse because the password used to be 4 digits but now it's 6 !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 3 September 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link
i heard today that iPhone 13 might have the ability to make satellite calls? as a backup when 4G/5G coverage isn't there??
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 3 September 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link
I would be surprised by that. I think the rumor was just "Apple is using a QCOM chip that has support for this network therefore they must support it." Those chips also have FM radio receivers in them.
― DJI, Friday, 3 September 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
But that would be rad for camping/hiking.
― DJI, Friday, 3 September 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
"I don't have a signal" seems like one of those things that should've already been a thing of the past
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 September 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
I dont even own a signal
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 3 September 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
my android phone scanned my face both with and without glasses on, and still only unlocks maybe 25% of the time, and never if I have sunglasses or mask on.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 3 September 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link
y'all seriously can't type in four #s? ... I don't want any face recognition or fingerprint ID on my phone -- like, the fingerprint thing especially seems kinda classist
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
I like the biometric stuff because it is truly unique. Not sure if my using it has negative effects on other people though.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 3 September 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
Guess we don't have to "accept" this, but wireless phone charging. We just bought our first one - an Anker thing with two charging pads. First, it's not really "wireless" (duh) because there's still a wire to the charger, and then the charging pad takes up way more desk/counter space than just a phone with a charger. You have to take the phone out of the case to make it charge at all (maybe because I have a magnet on the back of my case for attaching to a car phone holder), and you have to place it exactly right or it doesn't charge, plus it's slow.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 3 September 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
it's just that sometimes you have stuff on your hands and fingers, and ... honestly, I have not tested it to see if various materials or amounts of materials would prevent the touch recognition from working (or the whole thing of ... I have to take gloves off to use the phone .... uh, that's kinda annoying) ... though tbrr, the whole thing makes me think of all those movies and tv shows that involve cutting off the person's finger to access the vault.
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link
I do like my wireless stand charger because it does double duty propping the phone up as well, but yes, it is annoying that it's slower than wired
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 3 September 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link
I still think cutting off my thumb would be more difficult than swiping my PIN
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 3 September 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link
I guess it depends what is stored on your phone and how damaging the consequences of theft would be? ... I'd rather have to deal with apologizing to people for spam messages from my gmail due to phone theft than getting a thumb reattached but ... idk ... I don't want to shame anyone for their security precautions or storing stuff on their phones
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
Do you not have the dot pattern thing option? I find that the easiest to swipe quickly.
― kinder, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
And cutting someone's face off? Still more difficult.
― Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 September 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link
I don't swipe ... I type with my fingernails (if my fingers are dirty) or just with my fingers -- the buttons are big! It takes 5-10 seconds idk. It takes more time to find the phone in my bag.
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link
xp But what if someone fucked up your face so that you couldn't access your phone, and you needed to call someone to report being assaulted (or let friends/family know) ... I think the likelihood of injury resulting in screwing up facial recognition is probably more likely than someone cutting off your thumb (or losing it in an accident)
― sarahell, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link
swipe pattern is good but they've put the emergency call button right underneath the grid and if your pattern starts at the bottom, which mine does, then it's a fiddle.
― koogs, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
When you submitted your last post, weren't you relived to see the big window come up that said, "Are you sure?" It gave you one last chance to make sure everything in your post was on the up-and-up.
And then, when you did click "YES", another window popped up announcing "Post submitted!", freezing your screen until you clicked the "OK" button.
Wait, this didn't happen for you on ILX? And you hope it never does happen? Why, I thought you all were concerned about online safety!
― pplains, Friday, 3 September 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
I truly don't understand why people have a problem with typing in a pin to open their phones. Never will use the biometric stuff.
― Kind regards, Anus (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 September 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
I dont even own a fingerprint
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 September 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link
True. Apple/Google does.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 6 September 2021 02:07 (two years ago) link
― Kind regards, Anus (the table is the table), Sunday, September 5, 2021 2:01 PM (yesterday
High Five!
― sarahell, Monday, 6 September 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link
Agreed.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 6 September 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
Also biometric stuff is fine and its hard to rail against it too much without sounding a bit well much
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 6 September 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
Would happily do a blood test to open my phone tbh
I'm having a hard time seeing what is bad about any individual using whatever method suits thrm.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 6 September 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
I just spit on my phone and it does a DNA test to unlock.
― Jeff, Monday, 6 September 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link
I swipe it through my butt crack like a credit card
― ✖, Monday, 6 September 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
― brimstead, Monday, 6 September 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link
That goes both ways
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 6 September 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link
I kind of assumed people hated the biometric stuff if they don't work for that industry or one that relies on it but that they figure everything else is compromised anyway do who cares
seems bizarre to me to have no problem at all with it even then but I feel the same about people who support or don't mind having CCTV cameras everywhere, I'm intimately familiar with the you're being a bit much about this look
― Left, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
I guess blurring of the line between surveillance and convenience (and the unclearness about who the convenience is for) seems like such a self evidently bad thing to me that it's weird how normal about it people are. and the potential price of not being normal about it is terrifying (which means you have to become your own cop and do a lot of their own work for them)
― Left, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
i don't think biometric stuff you have on phones (android here) leaves the device. so my fingerprint is hashed, the hash stored, and any new presses are similarly hashed and compared against the stored one.
if i bought a new phone i'd have to re-register my finger. if i put my phone into airplane mode it'll still unlock. so, slightly different.
― koogs, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link
I think if you are carrying around a phone and doing all the regular internet stuff people do, you've already conceded this a long time ago, and the biometric stuff only adds a tiny piece to the massive amounts of personal information you've already given away (like your precise location 24/7).
That being said, I totally don't begrudge anyone for not being comfortable using this stuff. OTOH, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what harm I'm causing to others if I prefer to use it.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 6 September 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link
I find it gratifying when someone from another country validates my horror about eg those banners on london buses because I know I'm not the only one but people get so weird if you bring it up as a problem like they're half contemplating turning you in or something
― Left, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
that's the logic I understand xp, I do not understand not understanding how it could possibly bother people at all regardless of logic
― Left, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
it's not so much the fingerprint or where it goes in this case as the cumulative effects these things seem to have on behaviour around surveillance of self/others in general & the sense that any hesitancy or criticism is kind of suspicious
― Left, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link
I’ve never heard anyone express suspicion about someone being hesitant around biometrics or fingerprints, and certainly not here. On the other hand, people moaning about their privacy being taken away by big tech are seemingly everywhere.I’m not happy about CCTV everywhere but that feels like a different issue.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:35 (two years ago) link
are the people moaning about that wrong
― Left, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link
Well it depends why. Usually they’re moaning about their own personal use and there’s a very simple way out of that which is to stop using Facebook and Google and Amazon.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
Helpfully, there are about 10000000 other good reasons not to do business with those companies as well.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link