Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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I've also mentioned a couple different times that I use it less for convenience and more because I find it to be more secure

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 6 September 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link

i don’t even lock my phone

mookieproof, Monday, 6 September 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link

baller move

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 September 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link

Phone?

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

I don't even use GPS. Rarely leave the house without knowing where I'm going.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link

i don't even own a fingerprint

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:53 (two years ago) link

You owe d-mac a royalty fee

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link

I can recall a time when to go to a soccer match, you would purchase a ticket - maybe from the ground, maybe by post or telephone.

Then a time, very recently, when you would carry a dedicated little plastic card with your name and number as a supporter of that club, and when you ordered, online or by telephone, the card would be 'loaded' with the ticket, or rather, the stadium turnstiles, I suppose, would be primed to accept you when you touched them with that card.

I attended a lot of matches both ways.

I have now arrived at a time when I receive an email from a club telling me that tickets are on a 'digital pass'. I click a link to something that has a scannable code thing, but when I try to do that it makes no difference. I don't believe that said pass is anywhere on my mobile phone as it was supposed to be. The whole concept seems also to involve Google Pay, a thing I have never had or wanted anything to do with.

The tendency is to think that I will never be able to go to a match again.

I admit that during a pandemic is a bad time to go to a match anyway.

I continue to believe that while technology has improved some things, it continues to make some things worse.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link

I went to a show right before the pandemic started. It was the first show I had gone to where I wasn't asked to print out my tickets at home - I actually had to have the doorman scan the QR code in the Ticketmaster app on my phone. I was fine with that (gripes about souvenir ticket stub collecting notwithstanding), but when I got to the club, it was in an area with shitty cell reception and for some reason the app timed out while I was in line and I was having a rough time trying to get it back up again. I managed to get it back up by the time I got to the front of the line, but it was way more frustrating that just having a fucking ticket.

peace, man, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

Yes - I can see how that is bad.

Requiring internet access to get into a thing is bad because internet is not always reliable.

But I think what I described is bad at another level - I can't even get to the point of notionally having the ticket on my mobile phone.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

always keep a screenshot or local copy

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

our local soccer team only accepts the digital ticket and will not accept screenshots. they have a dynamic barcode that changes periodically so screenshots won't work.

reception is awful outside the stadium. so you have to remember to download it to Google Pay in advance or you have a very bad time.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

that is extremely annoying

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

fwiw I have both PIN and fingerprint enabled on my phone, I usually use fingerprint because it's quicker, but if I've just put handcream on or washed my hands the fingerprint reader doesn't work, so I can just put the PIN in then

bovarism, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

The first time I drove through empty roads to a deserted transport hub for a covid test and had a masked person in PPE scan the appointment barcode on my phone through my closed car window was one of the most filmy dystopian-future moments of the past few years.

kinder, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link

Ok, I won't flat out say it's a "backward step," but I do miss being able to press the garage door button and then run out into the driveway like Indiana Jones.

Instead, I have to walk back inside the house and then out the front door, like a schmuck.

pplains, Saturday, 18 September 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

But aren't most sensors located a couple inches off the ground, thereby allowing you to step over the beam they shoot?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 18 September 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

what is being discussed here

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 18 September 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

Ok, I won't flat out say it's a "backward step," but I do miss being able to press the garage door button and then run out into the driveway like Indiana Jones.

Instead, I have to walk back inside the house and then out the front door, like a schmuck.

― pplains, Saturday, September 18, 2021 1:12 PM bookmarkflaglink

lol I discovered this wasn't possible when housesitting for a friend.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 September 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

But aren't most sensors located a couple inches off the ground, thereby allowing you to step over the beam they shoot?

Yeah, but I'm so slow tall that by the time I get to the door, it's already five feet off the ground.

Sic reminds me of the time I came home and my garage door wouldn't open at all. When I got inside, my Australian brother-in-law told me, "Took forever for me to open your garage door. Finally realized I had to pull on that red handle hanging down!"

pplains, Saturday, 18 September 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link

hah!

I’ve only had to pull the release rope a couple times at my place, most notably when the power was out for three days after storms last year. I remember thinking, hey, hope this thing works

mh, Saturday, 18 September 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

Same. My favorite part is putting it back into place. It's like a little model train set or something!

pplains, Saturday, 18 September 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link

Mo money mo problemz

calstars, Saturday, 18 September 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

totally feeling like Tuomas in the famous ppl pics thread here

was able to guess at the change that’s taken place by pp’s last post, but then I get two more mysteries out of the rest of the same post

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 18 September 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link

Alice Cooper was one of the first "shock-rock" artists of the 1970s. Lady Bird Johnson was the wife of Lyndon Johnson, the 36th president.

Now what two mysteries can I help clarify.

pplains, Saturday, 18 September 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

i remain lost on this garage door thing but tbf i'm also not reading any of the posts very carefully

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link

for the first and probably last time in my life i feel smug about having a garage door opener

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

most modern garage doors have sensors in them to prevent people from getting hurt so if you hit the button to start the garage going down and attempt to run out really fast to get outside before it closes, it senses you there, and the door starts going back up.

back in my day you just got crushed and died and your friends remembered you as the badass you were.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

xpost

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link

Used to be, if you needed to leave your garage on foot to the outside world, you could press the button on the wall of your garage to close the door and then run out real quick, ducking to avoid hitting your head, if you had to.

But then, America got all "politically correct" because "children" were getting "asphyxiated" by doors slamming down on them and now, we've got these little sensors on either side of the portal:

https://i.imgur.com/INwCuOi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/U02zmqd.jpg

So if anything breaks the beam between those two sensors while the door is closing – a car, a child, a pet, Indiana Jones – the doors immediately stop closing.

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

xpost

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

thanks, both of you! still hazy on the red handle/release rope part but i can accept them as details of the process that i don't really need anyone to waste time trying to verbalize.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 19 September 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

xp it just disconnects the door from the opener's motor so you can use the door manually in the event of a power outage or something. to reconnect it you just slide it back in and it kind of clicks into place, thus the model train reference.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 September 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link

You can't open the garage door from the outside with the red handle, obv.

Another fun fact: Sometimes the red handle attracts hummingbirds!

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link

I had to build a little cardboard cover for one of the sensors because it was getting tripped by the sun on very sunny days, which would make it impossible to close the garage.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 19 September 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

that sensor looks very easy to disable, and probably uninstall altogether

the risk of getting crushed by the door is the entire point of going fast to avoid it. how are your kids ever going to learn how to avoid dangers in this techno-utopian nanny state. cut the red wire.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 19 September 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link

You're absolutely right. I hadn't even thought of that.

Now, what I would need are sensors above the door, for those two days each year when I'm bringing down Christmas decorations and putting them back up from a ladder.

I haven't been on the ladder when someone's opened the garage door, but we've had some close calls.

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/JYgUeKI.jpg

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link

Also, the red handle:

https://i.imgur.com/nYAvuoV.jpg

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link

idk if i'm impressed or frightened by your garage nook that holds four (4) storage boxes

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link

For $40 you can get a wireless keypad remote and stick it on the outside of the garage and have a profoundly life changing experience

joygoat, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:16 (two years ago) link

Looks like a photo from the wacko real estate thread

calstars, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

Cats were angry when we first put the litter boxes up there, but now, it's like a fun little adventure!

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link

for the first and probably last time in my life i feel smug about having a garage door opener

― call all destroyer, Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:41 PM (yesterday)

for the first and probably last time in my life i feel smug about not having a garage

sarahell, Sunday, 19 September 2021 07:19 (two years ago) link

dont even

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 September 2021 09:16 (two years ago) link

fumbling around changing tapes or CDs while driving was messy and dangerous but still, I think, preferable to trying to get my phone to connect via bluetooth and play Spotify while driving.

mahb, Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link

Carplay and Android Auto are supposed to fix that problem but only newer cars have them

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

technically wrecked my car while I was changing trax on my amazon prime music but it was less the distraction and more dark roadway and truck illegally hanging over a median in my lane, obscured by the darkness of the poorly lit street

I sued Cannibal Corpse anyway

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link

My old iPhone would automatically connect to my car's Bluetooth each time but with my current iPhone (11) I have to manually connect each time.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 19 September 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link


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