60 yards in the air
Russell Wilson NUKE to Lockett š¤ÆSeahawks (-2.5) get a big score before the halfpic.twitter.com/gZxPD9x2HQ— ClutchPoints Betting (@CPBetting) September 12, 2021
― lagān, Sunday, 12 September 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
Tua TD!
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 September 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
cleve brownies looking pretty good
― mookieproof, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
yikes packers
― mookieproof, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
pats deserve to lose this for that cowardly field goal
― ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
cool int tho
― lagān, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link
yeah looks like they're gonna make it work but its still wrong
― ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
ball batted back and forth between teams in a one point 4th quarter game thats a high leverage play baby
― lagān, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
thats why we call it volleyball
― ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link
was wondering about that
― lagān, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link
this rookie here looking pretty good for the patriots
― lagān, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link
justice served
― ciderpress, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link
Fins woooooo. Defense got picked apart tho
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link
guess i jinxed the browns
my bad
― mookieproof, Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link
Baker really fucked up on that last throw
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
Classic Vikings loss today but overshadowed by the Pack looking like they have not played football
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 September 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link
That was pretty shocking
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 00:12 (two years ago) link
Everyone on the Saints looked stronger and faster than everyone on the Packers, it was wild
― frogbs, Monday, 13 September 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link
Matt Nagy just went for it on 4th-and-15 down 13 while in FG range with 11 minutes on the clock
probably the right call but that's definitely something you would never have seen half a decade ago. I would've called something that actually got the ball past the line though
― frogbs, Monday, 13 September 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link
I don't see why the Bears are starting with Dalton. I think this is pretty much all you're gonna get with him. They liked Fields enough to trade up for him and this defense doesn't look like it's gonna stop anybody right now
― frogbs, Monday, 13 September 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link
I think it's good to keep going like they are. I'm in no hurry to see the kid carted off the field.
― beard papa, Monday, 13 September 2021 05:20 (two years ago) link
holy fuck Raiders
― frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link
WHAT THE HELL
― frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link
for those of you not watching the Raiders just threw what looked like a game winning TD in overtime - players were already shaking hands at midfield - but it turned out to be like 18 inches short. they run it to the 3 inch line or whatever on 1st down, then commit a false start (LOL) then on 3rd down it slips through a receivers hands and doinks off someone's helmet and now the Ravens are going for the win
― frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:52 (two years ago) link
oh Ravens just fumbled. oh well, I'm sure nothing incredibly weird will happen now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link
what happened
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link
dunno if I've ever seen a QB throw a pick in that game situation before
― frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link
didn't expect this kinda old school 80s NFC East barnburner but i'll take it
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link
Giants really fucked that though, they needed a first down and not only was that route short of it, fucker dropped it anyway.
gave Washington the equivalent of 2 timeouts to get a field goal.
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:29 (two years ago) link
my mom is a Giants fan and is screaming at the Giants right now.
it's ridiculous how they have kept shooting themselves in the foot tonight. that was ballgame there.
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link
fucking hell these NFC East teams really know how to lose in the most excruciating fashion
― frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link
Washington sure af shouldn't act cocky after this one though, they played like shit defensively and benefitted from playing a much stupider team
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link
in retrospect dropping a wide open touchdown wound up costing the Giants big time
― frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link
yep. even Daniel Jones had a "what the fuck, man" look on his face after that
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link
receiver should retire IMO
two extremely goofy NFL games in a row
― symsymsym, Friday, 17 September 2021 05:28 (two years ago) link
one of my favorite things about the NFL is how frequently bizarre shit like that happens. its the natural outgrowth of a high-variance sport with dozens of nebulously defined rules. every week these guys come out and risk career-ending injury and it's all for naught because a guy jumped a tenth of a second early. i love it
― frogbs, Friday, 17 September 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link
otm its a great/terrible sport
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 September 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
The amount of hype the last 9 months about the Giants, especially Daniel Jones and Joe Judge, has been nauseating.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Friday, 17 September 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
i thought both jones and heineike were p solid last night, looked like competent starting qbs
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
amazing
Okay, so*Texans pick up 13 yards on 3rd and 15*Browns called for offsides*Texans can choose between 4th and 2 or 3rd and 10*They choose 4th and 2*They then punt the ball awayThe Kevin Stefanski reaction is amazing pic.twitter.com/HMpY4ErhX4— Benjamin Solak (@BenjaminSolak) September 20, 2021
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 September 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link
I see the Vikings lost in hilarious fashion again
― frogbs, Monday, 20 September 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link
wow Kelce
― frogbs, Monday, 20 September 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Lamar already has the most 200+ yd passing/100+ yd rushing games in NFL history
― frogbs, Monday, 20 September 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link
excited to see this andy reid clock management
― mookieproof, Monday, 20 September 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link
that last lamar drive was so fun. his runs seem so casual, like the other team somehow forgot he existed.
― symsymsym, Monday, 20 September 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link
he would seriously run for 300+ yards against Green Bay
― frogbs, Monday, 20 September 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link
Huh...go figure, I guess Sam Darnold was not the problem with the NY Jets.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 06:56 (two years ago) link
ESPN's gotta sign this kid
This kid crushed the Jets in his film breakdown from Sunday's game š(via td.sports | TikTok) pic.twitter.com/i8d0EI94ZX— The MMQB (@theMMQB) September 22, 2021
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 23 September 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link
lol well done
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 September 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link
True but this game did have a particularly unusual dynamic. When it got down to 3 minutes I honestly thought they may just kneel it to prevent a turnover. But I guess getting to play Cincinnati instead of KC is worth the risk.
― frogbs, Monday, 10 January 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link
one of three black nfl head coaches gets fired after posting back-to-back winning seasons, stay classy league
back down to one, but iām sure eric bienenemy and byron leftwich will enjoy being interviewed eight times each
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 January 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link
fired after one season and getting wins with a third round rookie qb. It's such bullshit.
― symsymsym, Saturday, 15 January 2022 02:32 (two years ago) link
this seems uhh really bad for the league
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/02/hue-jackson-suggests-he-was-paid-extra-for-losses-as-browns-head-coach/
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link
the problem is what the reaction will be.
fans could theoretically file class action suits if this turned out to be true, as it could be considered a form of fraud. so the NFL will probably try to blame a few 'bad apples' as owners, fine them, and then will change the draft into a lottery system like the NBA.
and they'll be happier that people are focusing on THIS problem than the other, racially-concerning items brought up.
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link
wild stuff but I totally believe it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:52 (two years ago) link
Flores sounds like a stand-up dude.
― DJI, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link
on the one hand, I really dislike how he handled Tua (telling him "if you're gonna be that bad, I'd have drafted Mac Jones" in the middle of a game).
on the other, he was royally fucked and I support him 100% on this. and I hate our owner and hope he's given the donald STerling treatment.
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link
if true, i'd imagine the league takes this way more seriously than sterling was by the nba, just given that they are increasingly in bed with gambling companies and preserving the integrity of games (and the notion that there are payoffs to throw games, which is really just the owner doing what mob guys used to do in boxing) really threatens that, which i would imagine is their biggest area of potential earnings growth.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link
i mean shit if donald sterling was an nfl owner i'd expect he'd still own the team
yeah the gambling link is an interesting angle, and why I am guessing Congress will threaten to investigate the NFL (like they always do) for 'improprieties'.
whereas come on, we know teams tank, we always did, the thing was you just never actually fessed up to it for good. Flores broke the unwritten rule but paying someone to tank IS a touch beyond "encouraging playing younger players for development purposes, if you get my drift wink wink".
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link
I read Joe Posnanski's Browns Diary during the Hue Jackson years and he was always bewildered by some of the moves (particularly in-game) that Cleveland would make, often writing stuff like "I know for a fact that Jackson is a better coach than this, he never did this kind of thing with the Raiders, so what is going on here?" That 0-16 Browns team was far from average but there's no reason they should've lost every game; they weren't like the Lions of '08 where they just sucked at every position, they had a lot of talent but just blew games every which way they could. Joe never went as far to outright suggest they were throwing games on purpose, but he did use a lot of language like "it's almost as if..."
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link
letās burn down all sports
Somehow I knew this would come back to the Wizards. Just one of those years. Six Degrees Of Unconscionable. https://t.co/QJAFLtyGM4— Dave Zirin (@EdgeofSports) February 2, 2022
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
OF COURSE they tanked!! Tanking is perfectly fine. They wouldnāt have gotten Myles Garrett otherwise and settled for, like, Solomon Thomas or some shit.
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:12 (two years ago) link
it's not about tanking
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link
Deliberately making in-game decisions that ensure a loss is called "taking a dive", not tanking.
Tanking is where you strip your team of talented, experienced players and field a team of talented but raw rookies and veteran mediocrities on cheap contracts you can ditch later. Then you let them play and lose, because the team was built specifically for losing games and can safely be expected to lose all on their own.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link
yeah, being paid to lose is match-fixing. the type of thing mafiosos used to do in baseball in the early 20th century.
the NFL is going to get sued out the ass if it becomes apparent this isn't smoke and mirrors. and I have a feeling Flores has receipts.
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link
if he doesn't, the NFL is going to lean really hard on plausible deniability
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link
i personally don't see why match-fixing is illegal -- joke's on you if you're betting on games, honestly -- but yeah the rest of the world disagrees. particularly when the leagues now have such close relationships with gambling apps
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link
well, there's the whole folly of buying tickets to games that you think aren't predetermined
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:54 (two years ago) link
Jet fans will sue, then someone will remind them they weren't tanking, they just sucked
ā mookieproof, Wednesday, February 2, 2022 2:47 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
well yeah, you kinda answered your own question there. if a team is deliberately trying to lose it's not just a rogue decision from the coach, and if several people know then in the gambler's mind that means HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE KNEW and deliberately FUCKED YOU OVER, which is just bad PR for sports betting all around
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link
The fun thing about this is that itās coming right as a No. 1 overall pick took a 2-14 team to the Super Bowl in 2 years so you could easily argue the Browns were actually right to do what they did
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 21:01 (two years ago) link
i need these tanking teams to drop little bread crumbs for Week 1 games from now on so I can clean up and retire
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 21:08 (two years ago) link
i gotta say it is weird that nashville got to the superbowl in their first year actually in the city, teeing up years of .500 futility and a lot of early exits in the playoffs and somehow also a rabid tennessee fanbase that wasn't that into the game until they came thiiiiiiiiis close to a championshipprobably just a coincidence
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2022 01:57 (two years ago) link
Posnanski has an article up about this and he mentions something I had totally forgotten about - when Hue Jackson got fired, he was notably pissed about it, which drew a lot of mockery because he only won 3 of his 40 games...but looking back it makes total sense, cuz the implicit agreement must've been that they were gonna actually start trying in Year 3
also makes the point that Hue was probably not literally paid $100k per loss, but rather that there was some clauses in his contract that rewarded him for doing dumb shit like starting Kizer every game
― frogbs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link
lol
Doug Pederson will need 3 wins to move into 5th place on the Jaguars all-time wins list, replacing current 5th place HC Urban Meyer.— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) February 4, 2022
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 February 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link
due to the nature of football as a sport the NFL hasn't had a major tanking problem but if they really want to eradicate the incentive to tank they're going to need to implement a lottery and some of the stuff the NBA has instituted. in the year that flores was allegedly offered money to tank, the dolphins would have been able to draft joe burrow had they actually tanked. burrow will end up being worth billions of dollars to the bengals if he plays a full career, and i think any dolphins fans would say it would've been worth all the losses, flores suing the team, the owner being thrown out of the league etc to have him. of course flores would probably still have his job if they had tanked for burrow. the browns main problem was not paying their coach to tank but tanking in a year where no elite QB was available (the year they took myles garrett) and then tanking for baker mayfield
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2022 20:53 (two years ago) link
NFL to eye diversity efforts in wake of Flores suit
well that's sorted
― mookieproof, Sunday, 6 February 2022 04:50 (two years ago) link
Kyler Murray just threw a pick six in the Pro Bowl
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:12 (two years ago) link
and now Kirk threw one
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link
well ok not a pick six, but a pick
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link
Lol now Russell Wilson did too.
This is execrable but I'm bored
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 February 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link
āHerbert. Throws. It is caught. Second touchdown of the day for Andrews.ā
Iāve never watched the Pro Bowl before. It really is as bad as everyone says.
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 6 February 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link
Yeah it doesnāt work at all for the same reason thereās not really a such thing as āpick up footballā the way there is basketball and baseball (if you have enough people)
― frogbs, Sunday, 6 February 2022 21:29 (two years ago) link
a. will the texans demand that lovie smith put josh mccown on his staffb. how long before the latter replaces the former, because jesus
i mean i guess it's cool that lovie's getting paid
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 06:35 (two years ago) link