outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

ok if it matters it was a response to your very last post which i did not read that way, not an attempted pile-on

I apologize to Tracer, it was definitely uncalled for and I fucked up by not considering the entire point. I'll be the first to admit that I get myself into hot water sometimes by multitasking and skimming posts too quickly, absolutely. Shame on me for that.

sounds like somebody could use a morale-improving kahoot quiz!

lol

I think harbl is allowed to express her opinion

On a message board

would be better if i wasn't, tbh

Quiet you

My own personal experience of being in a workplace union showed me that even in many of the unions, the buzzwords mean absolute dick. So many meetings where organizers and union officials would pay lip-service to ideas of solidarity, only to back away in negotiations.

Which is to say that I actually kind of disagree with both jon and Tracer here— I think that there is something good, mentally and emotionally, about going into a work setting and being around co-workers, particularly if the dynamic isn't toxic. I also am immediately distrustful of unions because of my own experience with them...in fact, before I decided not to adjunct this fall, I'd gone out of the way to *withdraw* my membership from the union.

i have dedicated my life to being anti-work, and i have a feeling i'm going to have to go to work again soon. but i think i'm going to liquidate my entire retirement account first (losing a bunch to taxes and early withdraw) just because i hate to "work" (make money for other people) so much, and not working is so many multiple times better than working that if you apply a net present value to it and give yourself some reasonable assumptions, it probably makes more sense to just say fuck off from the world and enjoy 5 completely non-work years, on your own terms, then it does to live 40 years and work all the time and finally take that big trip to south america when you're 75

why? because of covid. full circle

very curious to me that you feel this way but then i have never been part of a unionized workforce xxp

in fact, using this theory and stretching it past the limits of logic, some say that it is possible to live a better life in 1 hour, 1 amazing hour, than it is to work your entire life at a normal job in the united states

I don't think this undermines tracer's key point that atomised work forces are difficult to organise in terms of unionisation etc. Efforts to prevent unionisation often target making sure workers spend almost as little time as possible if any interacting with each other in person. I think this is partly why efforts to organise deliveroo staff have been more successful than Uber, drivers are inherently cut off by their vehicle from each other. This is not to say there are not huge opportunities to be had from working from home but it does seem to be rarely the case historically that workers ultimately benefit from these kinds of technological improvement, often the reverse, and as such we should be very mindful of the attendant risks. This seems quite reasonable to me.

very curious to me that you feel this way but then i have never been part of a unionized workforce xxp

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 15, 2021 10:44 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The union for teachers and university professionals at the institution where I spent four years is *notorious* for paying lip service to adjuncts and NTTs and then throwing them under the bus in actual negotiations to get better deals for tenured folks. Which demographic is more represented when negotiations take place? Tenured folks.

And this state of affairs doesn't exist because adjuncts shuffle in and out— many adjuncts have been at the institution for YEARS, some even a decade-plus. It's shameful.

I know this isn't the state of affairs in many or most unions. But it was my first experience as a union member, and it has made me extremely wary of them.

That was pretty much the conclusion I reached after trying for years to get our union to do anything at all for us. I spent some time trying to organize and get more turnout for union meetings and ended up feeling like I was being manipulated into making empty promises to people, so I eventually gave up. But it certainly doesn't help that the university keeps the adjuncts decentralized and none of us know who the others even are.

My opinion is work is bad and should be destroyed

Meanwhile, in one of the two worst states for new cases ...

Right wing extremist *TN Pastors Network* accuses CRMC of “murdering people” — says they should be able to go into the COVID ward to visit and catch Covid if they want to — insists people be given ivermectin 😵‍💫😷 pic.twitter.com/aa9KCfP1o9

— Cookeville Holler (@CvilleHoller) September 16, 2021

Why the fuck are we wasting hospital space on these dangerous assholes? Bomb threats, and it's only going to get worse. There needs to be a fully-conscious signature on a form saying that they should have gotten the fucking vaccine and they don't believe in horse dewormer as an effective treatment to get a hospital bed.

Let those who won't or can't sign die in a filthy ivermectin tent across the tracks.

i ask everyone to please watch that clip tipsy posted, from 1:30 the end especially

i know a lot of what i post is hyperbole, but the church i went to was like 65% that, all the time, median

i like how they give THE WOMAN 7 seconds at the beginning to give her elevator speech. but then the men speak. at leeeength

it's an inverted reflection of what men and people like me do all the time too. i just use different words

What a shame

life comes at you fast pic.twitter.com/8k1NYg69Qg

— Zachary Petrizzo (@ZTPetrizzo) September 17, 2021

damn, was hoping I'd never see that name again

ok Loomer

lmao she's on telegram complaining about how she can't get ivermectin because doctors are "weird" about prescribing it

give her rat poison imo

in a box that says Ivermectin written in crayon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ02zCMoxCo

Meantime

someone I went to high school with who “did their research” and won’t get the vaccine keeps sharing this pic.twitter.com/PWGa5A7ZxA

— paige (@BonerWizard) September 16, 2021

love how these days 'did my research' generally boils down to 'looked at some dipshits reddit/fb entry'

Erm. What ??!

Some 12,407 people were admitted to hospital in England up to 12 September who were either confirmed or likely to have the Delta variant of Covid-19, PHE says.

Of this number, 6,230 were under the age of 50 and 6,167 were aged 50 or over.

Of the 6,230 under 50, 4,517 (73%) were unvaccinated, 848 (14%) had received one dose of vaccine and 721 (12%) had received both doses.

Of the 6,167 aged 50 or over, 1,786 (29%) were unvaccinated, 435 (7%) had received one dose of vaccine and 3,913 (63%) had received both doses

is this an error?
(from bbc feed)

I guess in the grand picture if there is a considerably more amount of vaccinated over 50's (and I'm sure there is), this is probably an expected proportion?

It would be 100% if everyone was vaccinated.

The feed doesn't specify whether they were admitted because they had COVID or whether they were admitted for something else and just happened to flag up on the mandatory testing, as far as i can tell.

yeah, i realised the proportion thing after I posted.

xpost: They're also testing everyone that goes into hospital, so are presumably picking up a lot of asymptomatic cases in people that are there for something else.

Yep, it's going to be interesting to see "people who test positive get counted in the statistics even if they're there for something else, so you can't rely on them" go from a talking point of the COVID sceptics to a defence of the efficacy of the vaccine. It would make sense to publish a separate set just consisting of people who are there because of COVID, i guess.

btw update, nobody else at my kid's school (classroom of all under-12s) got COVID from the kid who had COVID

my dad's been exposed as of Monday at his adult day care. fun. testing him today. and now we can't use day care for a little while until we hear back on the testing of the people at the place.

gotta test myself and mom now too.

haha nice https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09/hospital-staff-must-swear-off-tylenol-tums-to-get-religious-vaccine-exemption/

hahaha. fantastic.

dad and I tested negative.

i bought four boxes of at home tests, gonna test him and I again on Sunday.

Glad to hear that, Neanderthal! Hope the home testing shows the same.

That exemption request idea is excellent - people need to understand the wider implications of what they are claiming.

A Food and Drug Administration advisory panel voted unanimously on Friday in favor of a booster dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine for people 65 and older and for individuals at high risk for severe disease, with the shot given at least six months after their initial vaccination...

Are they going to be looking at other versions of the vaccine?

I had the J&J back in April, and have heard basically nothing about boosters (which I'm fine with).. but it may be that we're cribbing all our info from Israel (who never distributed the J&J) and not doing any research on U.S. citizens, which seems really fucking lazy to me

i think they're considering separately what to do with J&J recipients? I could be wrong though

they are

good news about your dad neandy

Indeed.