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it's mad how honest and confident this bloke is, just like 'yeah caned a load of ket and made a world-class record'. fair fucks, bj burton
― maelin, Thursday, 30 September 2021 12:49 (yesterday)

Indeed. mego-like melodic glitch was always the future of pop. Finally people are catching up to what I have been saying for 10000 years.

RobbiePires, Friday, 1 October 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

the Mego releases do seem like they influenced the last two Low records

Dan S, Friday, 1 October 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link

I posted this a bit upthread but yeah, definitely: https://pitaemego.bandcamp.com/track/get-out-3

cwkiii, Friday, 1 October 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

right on, robbie. i'm just breaking into mego & pita now via fennesz, and eschewed my instruments for just my laptop now...

maelin, Saturday, 2 October 2021 13:09 (two years ago) link

re: Mego, I thought Florian Hecker's Acid In the Style of David Tudor was good, it seemed like a precursor to Rashad Becker's Traditional Music of Notional Species Vol 1

Dan S, Sunday, 3 October 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link

off topic, but Becker's record is one of the more incredible things I've heard in the last decade

Dan S, Sunday, 3 October 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

Hitting the ground running in 2022! pic.twitter.com/jjCm8z4ZOz

— LOW (@lowtheband) October 3, 2021

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 3 October 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link

wtf?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 October 2021 01:39 (two years ago) link

lol

gbx, Sunday, 3 October 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link

i was walking around listening to 'hey what' on headphones today and a helicopter flew low overhead from behind me and i thought it was the music

flopson, Sunday, 3 October 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link

im curious about bj’s process. he says in that interview upthread that they send him “songs” and have “complete trust” in him.. how much back and forth is there between them? how much of the sound is post-processing versus pedals?

flopson, Sunday, 3 October 2021 05:33 (two years ago) link

i feel like the manipulated digital distortion comes more from techno and industrial than editions mego. not that it has to be one or the other

flopson, Sunday, 3 October 2021 05:39 (two years ago) link

they've been pretty clear that the songs were all written beforehand & then deconstructed & arranged in the studio with bj's help.

https://www.vulture.com/2021/10/low-interview-alan-sparhawk-mimi-parker.html

this interview gives a bit of insight into the back & forth between the band & bj. i get the impression that alan really loves playing around with pedals etc. to get weird sounds, but he doesn't have the deep technical know-how that bj does, so bj's job is to execute alan & mimi's sonic or conceptual ideas, or just do his own thing and see if they like it.

ufo, Sunday, 3 October 2021 05:54 (two years ago) link

thx!

flopson, Sunday, 3 October 2021 05:58 (two years ago) link

it's still setting in for me that there are no drums on this record aside the last song. i literally never even noticed

maelin, Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link

It's like finding out the Doors didn't use bass. except for a band I actually care about lol

Vinnie, Sunday, 3 October 2021 11:12 (two years ago) link

Oops apparently that's not really true? Let's just forget I mentioned that sub-Low band

Vinnie, Sunday, 3 October 2021 11:14 (two years ago) link

there's a lot of side-chaining to the drums that got taken out which kinda gives the feel of the drums being there even though they aren't

ufo, Sunday, 3 October 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link

since we're attempting to trace possible electronic music antecedents to the new Low sound, the first thing that came to mind when reading Burton comments about deleting the drums and using 'negative space' as a rhythmic device was Pan Sonic

for me though, what is most compelling is not Burton's production—which isn't really that unsual for those of us familiar with experimental electronic music, noise, etc.—but the band's openness and commitment to this new structural approach. I just love this sense of adventurousness and curiosity about finding new ways to articulate their songs, it speaks volumes to their intelligence and integrity as artists that they're still out here taking risks when they could be coasting on their rep, and this latest album shows that it's not just a late-career anomaly but a genuine development. it's really inspiring!

missingNO, Sunday, 3 October 2021 12:21 (two years ago) link

It's like finding out the Doors didn't use bass. except for a band I actually care about lol

― Vinnie, Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:12 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Nah they used killer session guys on the records, Larry Knetchel from the Wrecking Crew, Harvey Brooks (Dylan,Miles Davis), Jerry Scheff (Elvis), Lonnie Mack and some others

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 October 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link

If you watch the Instagram video Alan posted of his pedal chain on "More" it's pretty amazing how he's able to come up with much of the noise and randomness without too much studio trickery. One of his pedals iirc was kind of a boutique harmonizer with all these randomizer attributes, which really helps fill in the space but also, and more importantly, accents and emphasizes all these overtones brought out by the distortion pedals. That's one reason I was surprised there were no synths on the record (though I guess in the video Alan *is* using a guitar synth pedal). Various drones and notes sort of appear and hover mysteriously in the background, but what I just figured were keyboard drones were actually the decay and delay of the guitar attack being randomly held, modulated and mutated.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:24 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I just watched that video and it’s amazing how clean the melody is at first before he turns on the synth and metal(?) pedals. Goes from sounding by the books Low to a riff that could’ve been on a Deftones album.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Trust came out nineteen years ago today, and so I've been listening while withstanding an absolutely slammed day at work. Stealing away from my current task to say that this record remains one of my favorites of theirs, particularly in terms of lyrical content— there's a sinister quality to the lyrics here that is comparatively unrivalled, if sometimes approached, by other albums.

I also think that my first experiences of this record are a perfect way to encounter it— listening to it on repeat on long bike rides on lonely roads past flat Ohio cornfields.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 October 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

going to start the poll next week if anyone wants to start thinking about it

ufo, Monday, 25 October 2021 06:15 (two years ago) link

Yes, please do it ufo! I'm actually nearly complete with listening to all their albums at this point. Long Division was the latest for me - a few excellent songs in the first half but not as strong as Curtain Hits the Cast, which has a similar mood

Vinnie, Monday, 25 October 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link

my ballot will be ready

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

I hope people don't hesitate to trust their instincts on where to rank the HEY WHAT songs.

cwkiii, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

I don't generally participate in polls, because my mind has moved beyond being able to rank anything, but this band would be particularly difficult, since so many of their songs kind of fit the same mode and none of them are bad. Plus, there are so many of them!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

So, hats off, you OCD lunatics!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

I thought we were doing an albums poll, a songs poll...i don't know if I can do that.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link

as in, that's not something I've ever even considered.

albums is hard enough.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link

Ha, I'm not even sure I could rank the albums.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 October 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

I could do it, but the top 5 would be agonizing.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

Right now, though, the first record is my favorite.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

Because this band's so consistent, the top 10 songs and top 5 albums are probably going to surprise no matter what places. Can't wait.

octobeard, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

I keep loose tabs on my fave Low songs, I could get a Top 25 fairly easily

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

Do You Know How to POLLtz?: ILM Artist Poll #111 - Low

here it is

ufo, Sunday, 31 October 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

They opened for one of the Yo La Tengo's Hanukkah shows last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD5Xa510XuE

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLYmrHBzMqI

StanM, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

great video, especially the first half. i feel bad, i ended up playing the youtube on mute at 0.5x speed, along with the streaming track, so that the video cuts were twice as slow for the first few minutes - there are some really beautiful shots in there that just go by too fast at 1 per second

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Here's a wonderful, intimate, rare interview with Mimi about their career — she talks about their beginnings, life on the road, balancing the band/marriage aspects, and her faith. She also shares she was diagnosed with advanced ovarian cancer in December 2020 and went through chemo and surgery from January to August last year (thankfully she's on the other side now!):

https://www.mixcloud.com/SHEROES/sheroes-radio-episode-58-featuring-mimi-parker-of-low/

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 20 January 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

wow thanks for sharing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link

I had noticed her wearing a hat during the weekly sessions when she was there but never thought that was going on - thank gxd she's over it

StanM, Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Seeing them tonight, stoked.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link

Also seeing them tonight. Got a nice front and center spot at the balcony. Ready for this building to break in half.

yeah but how, Thursday, 17 February 2022 01:06 (two years ago) link

Predictably but still kind of surprisingly, mostly songs from the last three albums, with a focus on the new one and only one or two from before that (and only one or two from before *that*). But what more could anyone want from a band than what they do every night and on every album?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 February 2022 13:39 (two years ago) link

so was it good or not

StanM, Thursday, 17 February 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

It was good! They're always good!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 February 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link

my ex saw the show, last minute ticket replacement. i always talked and listened to low but she didn't really like them. she came away absolutely worshipping them, instant megafan. i saw low once, but it was when they were making their worst albums. there are only a few years of low that I don't absolutely worship myself, and it was during that time i saw themn. but she was so glad and happy about the show that she actually thanked ME for some reason, by text, afterward, like i had anything at all to do with it! it doesn't make sense but it completely does, sometimes when you're introduced to the thing you love you want to acknowledge everyone and everything along the way leading up

dig your way out of the shit with a gold magic shovel! (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 February 2022 04:07 (two years ago) link

well, that did it, i'm seeing low for the first time at the end of march

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 February 2022 04:20 (two years ago) link


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