Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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haha the sunday revive of this thread is so reliable. god i hate the guardian/observer.

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:42 (two years ago) link

hmmm i wonder whether trans people or the kind of men who ally themselves with terfs are the bigger threat to safe spaces?

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:53 (two years ago) link

the logic is impeccable

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:53 (two years ago) link

thought this week’s revive might be about the Nick Cohen piece (guess who are the enemies of free speech?)

bespoke sausages (seandalai), Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:19 (two years ago) link

Not clicking the link obviously but how do these people always try to directly argue with men about this shit without referencing the majority of women who are in favour of trans women having access to women's bathrooms and shelters

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:30 (two years ago) link

Thought the revive might be the Philippa Perry advice column … but the btl commentators are unintentionally quite funny rather than irritating this week, as they try to make sense of a rather vague problem scenario.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:43 (two years ago) link

its the same old shit that posits 'bleeding heart liberals' or w/e as the cynical vanguard pushing political correctness under the guise of equality for dubious and withheld reasons, conveniently without addressing (or seemingly even noticing), you know, the rights, demands and political organising of minorities.

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 11:47 (two years ago) link

Meanwhile, I'd be very happy to hear from women who have worked with Nick whether he is the champion they would choose for women's rights in the workplace. Happy to keep your name confidential, if you prefer.

— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) October 3, 2021

hah hah the fox-clubber is on the warpath against Cohen

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link

would be pretty funny to see Nick being cornered into actually apologising for something

Hate the alarmist reporting.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/03/we-might-not-be-over-the-worst-scientists-warn-as-covid-case-numbers-stay-high

There is no sign of a new strain, why are they quoting a Prof who has been predicting this to happen? Case numbers did bump up a bit but now it's stabilizing. Hospitalisations and deaths are going down.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 October 2021 13:14 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAyOSbdVEAQ6WoS?format=png&name=900x900

how does a journo get away with being a repeat offender around woman for decades? With a little bit of help from his friends usually

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

Follow Back Pro Sexual Harrassment

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link

in my experience cis dude journalists love sexual harassment and want more of it

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

Look I’m sure he doesn’t really want to defend the groping, just feels he has to in order to defend the transphobia. Be fair ppl

siffleur’s mom (wins), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link

i presumed it was bald solidarity

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

Doubly ironic in the wake of the deluge of why-oh-why think pieces about the police's toxic culture of misogyny. I think I said it earlier this week, journalists are even more protective of their own kind than the filth.

this is true and also not true: owen jones absolutely does not receive full solidarity even when he's attacked in the street by fascists

i mean bcz he is judged to be "not of their own kind" obviously -- but that's part of why the fascists are attacking him

mark s, Sunday, 3 October 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

Indeed.

The Picture of Dorian Lynskey: they find a portrait of a really cool and interesting man in his attic

— PolProf Wariotifo (@wariotifo) November 18, 2014

There are journalists who argue that OJ is not a journalist.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Sunday, 3 October 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link

what standards are they using to judge him? Maybe OJ has been a bit of a weathervane at times but many of his detractors have been slippery hypocritical liars and bigots at least 90% of the time and that is being generous.

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link

Guardian runs an article about yesterday's anti-Bolsonaro protests, that brought 700,000 out in Brazil. It doesn't mention any of the labor unions and social movements that organized them or the PT. It couldn't find a photo to run that wasn't full of PT flags though. pic.twitter.com/ck4q8DYKns

— BrianMier (@BrianMteleSUR) October 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 07:18 (two years ago) link

Lol, standard.

plax (ico), Monday, 4 October 2021 07:38 (two years ago) link

they might succeed in putting me off Succession

Number None, Friday, 15 October 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB1yBzTXIAQivHc?format=jpg&name=medium

a variation of statue of liberty crying.gif in the Graun today it seems, such fucking risible shit!

calzino, Sunday, 17 October 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

that is fucking despicable

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 October 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB1zzPCWYAM12zP?format=jpg&name=small

that's more like it

calzino, Sunday, 17 October 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2021/oct/23/judith-butler-gender-ideology-backlash?

Judith Butler got to write a whole piece explicitly linking Transphobia to fascism after her para about that was deleted from the interview. Wonder how this came about.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 October 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

it's part of the same us guardian series as that interview, seems like they were basically daring the uk branch to intervene again

ufo, Sunday, 24 October 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link

The takes from the usual suspects.

Is this satire? pic.twitter.com/AJ8A0ak9FJ

— David Timoney (@fromarsetoelbow) October 23, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 October 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link

The below the line commentators get on my nerves at the moment, especially the ones who have nothing of interest to add in their rush to be the first to praise their favourite contributors week after week , eg

Philippa is a goddess. Every single letter she writes resonates with me- it’s almost spooky. It’s the one part of the newspaper I look forward to every week. Incredible.

81 likes

Though I quite liked this person’s boldness:

Jay, I was just wonering if I might be able to accompany you on one of your visits to an eatery (preferably, one which is half decent) just to test the veracity of your opinions. This could provide readers with some reassurance that you're not making all this up and that the photos do represent reality. I'd not want any financial renumeration for my trouble but would expect the food (and wine) to be paid for.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 24 October 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

A friend of mine was a regular dining companion of JR, until she was obliged to go gluten free, at which point the invitations ceased.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 24 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

for some reason I read JR as Judith Butler there. do they have thoughts on wheat?

kinder, Sunday, 24 October 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

Cheers for the link!

I applied, was accepted, had a lovely lunch at a local pub with a nice bloke - stayed for 6 hours drinking through the £100 tab they paid for - only to find they wont be publishing the piece as we got on too well 😆😁

— I was told of Gin (@Iwastoldofgin) October 31, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 October 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link

Happy to report my wife has finally cancelled her Guardian subscription because of all the transphobia and also them taking sudoku out of the weekend edition.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

xp

it was the quick crossword and kakuru puzzle on the back page of G2 that had me still occasionally buying the print edition, but this was before they became transphobia central and the MI5 house paper.

calzino, Saturday, 6 November 2021 09:19 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/oct/12/state-of-terror-by-hillary-rodham-clinton-and-louise-penny-review-politics-and-patriotism

Fawning review of Hillary Clinton's new airport thriller about "President Dumb" pulling out of the Iran deal.

Why do pols do this shit? Her husband has a couple out, too. Imagine Bernie or Corbyn putting out a ghostwritten thriller abt a leftist candidate getting fucked over by the right wing of their party, the clowning would never end.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 6 November 2021 10:57 (two years ago) link

i know its so undignified

plax (ico), Saturday, 6 November 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

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the Bennite Labour MP Brian Sedgemore wrote a couple of political thrillers back in the day, can't think of any other leftish politicians who have done this unless you count Chris Mullin who is probably better known as a writer than an MP

soref, Saturday, 6 November 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

i stood behind him in a shop once, he was very tall

mark s, Saturday, 6 November 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

and now he's dead

mark s, Saturday, 6 November 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

coincidence?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 6 November 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

'don't be tall in front of me!'

Mark G, Saturday, 6 November 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

Quite enjoyed the hammering Rachel Cooke received from BTL commentators for this 'peak Guardian':

Worried about waste and having too much ‘stuff’? Get rid of the fitted kitchen

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 14 November 2021 12:54 (two years ago) link

what kitchens? "I often put a joint in our coal hole" - WHAT?!

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 14 November 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link

The rarest of all things, a good Observer opinion piece.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/14/fortress-europe-violent-pushbacks-exploit-people-pursue-policy

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 14 November 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link

has (old-school RCP and spiked! alum) kenan malik managed to circle back to being more or less ok?

mark s, Sunday, 14 November 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

I wouldn’t necessarily go that far but a lot of his pieces on migration are decent.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 14 November 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link


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