2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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i "like" the bulls moves this summer but as like a respectable 8th seed

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 11 October 2021 01:38 (two years ago) link

i dont think their preseason performance is too meaningful escpailly considered as jordan said the teams they played didnt have their guys, but their lineup does have a bunch of guys and if theyre going to run so they can do as many different pick and rolls as possible i love it

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 01:38 (two years ago) link

yeah and i don't think anyone who was critical of their offseason was saying they wouldn't have a good offense, it was more that they are at risk to have a very bad defense and have mortgaged a measurable amount of their future for a team that won't threaten to contend.

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 October 2021 01:41 (two years ago) link

i havent really followed what exactly their offseason moves were, the vooch trade was def awful, but now that were here i support their vision

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link

Two Dallas GOATs were spotted at the Cowboys' game.

⭐️ Luka Doncic
⭐️ Dirk Nowitkzi

📸 @JoriEpstein pic.twitter.com/VMstkgt6mX

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) October 11, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 01:45 (two years ago) link

i was kind of following the thread until they traded thad young and a 2025 first for derozan. between vuc and deorzan they're out 1st round picks in 21, 23, and 25.

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 October 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link

petition for dirk to come back and play 12 minutes off the bench and pop some deep balls, just have some fun out there

Clay, Monday, 11 October 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link

yeah thats not great, prob one of those situations where ownership has decided they just need to make the playoffs this year xp

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link

lol he truly doesnt give a shit just hates philly, love it

Ben Simmons reportedly “would have no problem going to Sacramento” https://t.co/7a9Ku6aq1R

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) October 11, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link

Sacramento fans rejoicing for once lol

the way he’s holding the ball in that pic…

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 October 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link

i was kind of following the thread until they traded thad young and a 2025 first for derozan. between vuc and deorzan they're out 1st round picks in 21, 23, and 25.


i’m also just personally skeptical of zach lavine’s offensive jump in the craziest offensive year in recent history when teams played nearly the entire season in empty gyms but maybe i’m crazy for that one. i think ppl aren’t giving enough credence to the possibility that we just saw zach lavine’s career year

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 October 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

imo theres a very good chance thats true, hes still a good player if he reverts tho

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link

it’s true — i mean, they will be *better*. it’s almost impossible for them not to be and if they aren’t their GM will be a season away from getting fired. but the justification for their moves is tied to the idea that lavine is as good or better, and idk. i just need to see it in a real season, i don’t trust a lot of the shooting numbers from last year. julius randle at the top of the list for me.

the only thing i’ll say for the bulls is a lot of ppl (me included) were making basically the same exact argument against the hawks last year — yeah they got better but how much better really? and then they were much better, at least after they fired their coach. nonetheless the bulls still look like a play in team to me

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 October 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link

the hawks are backed by the real growth of young players and signing known contributors

micah, Monday, 11 October 2021 04:28 (two years ago) link

rich wants his paycheck

Sixers officials and Klutch CEO Rich Paul have progressed in talks over recent days on a resolution to bring All-Star Ben Simmons back to Philadelphia in the near future, sources tell ESPN. Discussions are ongoing.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 11, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

The organization's hopes are unchanged: Get Simmons back into Philadelphia, onto the court and ultimately convince him that it's still the place for the long-term.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 11, 2021



woj printing transparent lies lol

J0rdan S., Monday, 11 October 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

you gotta give to get

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

sixers attempt to fill the Wells Fargo Center with paid actors, cheering Ben on, but the Tricorn hats give it away.

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

Yessssss!!1!!

Feel the brotherly love coming!

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

Do I want Ben Simmons back as a Sixer? No. But will I embrace his return if he proves he can work hard, apologize to the Sixers fans, and make a little bit of an effort? Also no

— Amy, but spooky edition 👻 (@amy_shee) October 11, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 11 October 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

^ harsh, but fair

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 11 October 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

ESPN story on All-Star Ben Simmons reporting to the 76ers in Philadelphia on Monday night: https://t.co/Gv86rfjKDW

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 12, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link

ok so he is there, next question is does he play?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link

the best plan for everyone involved is prob for him to play and be good at basketball

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link

i mean i guess he could take the jimmy butler route and just be a total pain in the ass until they trade him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:43 (two years ago) link

lol everyone is telling him to do that but he hates conflict and won't

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:46 (two years ago) link

Every time the ball touches his hands, he should shoot. Even if it's inbound from under the opponent's basket.

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link

Or just chuck it at Embiid's fragile knees.

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link

lmao simmons just chucking like crazy is a good idea

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:53 (two years ago) link

only take threes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link

pull up for three on 4-1 fast break like a psycho and then give the jordan shrug

a doula for creation (Clay), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:55 (two years ago) link

haa

Sources: Sixers were unaware Simmons was flying into Philadelphia today. The organization was in constant contact with agent Rich Paul, but Simmons simply showed up at arena to take his Covid test prior to Sixers-Nets tip -- and that's when team officials knew he was in town. https://t.co/j3cGnC6mgG

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 12, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 03:20 (two years ago) link

Simmons is generating so much messy drama that Kyrie must be beside himself with jealousy.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link

i think morey might have been on the right track here. like, simmons value wasnt going to decline much as he held out longer - so why not just sit tight and wait for the right offer?

micah, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 04:49 (two years ago) link

it also sounds like simmons has cut out rich paul to an extent. or rich paul wants to appear to be more critical to "negotiations" than he actually is.

micah, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 06:29 (two years ago) link

i’m not sure simmons’ value changes much in either direction at this point. i feel like in general we know the strengths and weaknesses of simmons game pretty well, highly doubt he is going to unleash a new jumper on opening night. it is really all about whether a team decides it wants to pay whatever price morey is asking before the pressure gets too much in philly and daryl blinks first. i doubt daryl is planning on blinking first so he’s rolling the dice on the team being good, doc keeping the locker room in check etc and other teams feeling like he is willing to ride the situation out until they come to his level. this also all assumes simmons plays and isn’t showing up as a technicality just to get paid

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 October 2021 06:45 (two years ago) link

there is also a practical element to morey waiting to do the trade insofar as a number of guys across the league aren’t even eligible to be traded until mid december and aside from that most teams are reluctant to swing a trade of this magnitude in the period in between setting their rosters for the season and seeing those rosters play a certain number of games. harden had to essentially turn the sport into a farce to upend this dynamic but i don’t think simmons will be able to do that

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 October 2021 06:48 (two years ago) link

one could argue that simmons has already done that ahahha

micah, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 07:49 (two years ago) link

I think there is a high probability Simmons pulls a muscle in the first 30 seconds of training camp (i.e. gets paid, no fines). I think that is what this is all about.

Not sure what the Sixers plan is but:

I think the Sixers can at least get an 6-8 seed without Simmons, so might as well let him sit a little if the offers aren't good. Good being good (like what was discussed just upthread), not like Lillard.

xp wtf

― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:17 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

The fatal flaw in this is if Simmons actually plays. I've not defended the Sixers all that much in this, but I have defended the fans because they haven't (YET) done anything on the whole other than support Simmons and hope he develops into a superstar. But I've also said that Sixers management is dumb if they think the fan base (at this point) is going to welcome Simmons back:

hoping this all ends like the Aaron Rodgers drama and he just stays in Philly and everyone acts like nothing happens

― frogbs, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:04 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

There is no possible way this happens with the fanbase unless Simmons walks in and hits 5 3Ps in the first quarter of the season. And if he does, he better not go 3/10 from the line.

― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:14 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's fascinating either way.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link

I’m not sure Rich Paul really scores that many wins for his clients per se

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link

one could argue that simmons has already done that ahahha


there is something farcical about this whole situation but imo that’s coming from the sixers side mostly. what i mean with harden is him openly disrespecting the organization on the court by blatantly not trying, disengaging himself from the game etc which really forced the trade. simmons isn’t in a position where he can do that imo, the sixers will just bench or suspend him

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

he should play hard but also take a lot of 3s

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

woww

Kyrie Irving will not play or practice with the team until he is full participant, Nets say.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 12, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link

gl w that

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

Full statement from Brooklyn on Kyrie Irving pic.twitter.com/SyIQPNZo7d

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) October 12, 2021

sooooo are they paying him or not

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

crazy he only needs to get one shot. the microchip doesn’t even activate until after the second shot!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link

hollinger published his team preview on the pelicans today and has them 43-39 and 7th in the west

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

did he write that before it came out that zion will not be ready to start the season?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link

what do we think about Desmond Bane out of memphis? He looked like he might have some break out potential against the hawks

Heez, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link


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