2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

pull up for three on 4-1 fast break like a psycho and then give the jordan shrug

haa

Sources: Sixers were unaware Simmons was flying into Philadelphia today. The organization was in constant contact with agent Rich Paul, but Simmons simply showed up at arena to take his Covid test prior to Sixers-Nets tip -- and that's when team officials knew he was in town. https://t.co/j3cGnC6mgG

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 12, 2021

Simmons is generating so much messy drama that Kyrie must be beside himself with jealousy.

i think morey might have been on the right track here. like, simmons value wasnt going to decline much as he held out longer - so why not just sit tight and wait for the right offer?

it also sounds like simmons has cut out rich paul to an extent. or rich paul wants to appear to be more critical to "negotiations" than he actually is.

i’m not sure simmons’ value changes much in either direction at this point. i feel like in general we know the strengths and weaknesses of simmons game pretty well, highly doubt he is going to unleash a new jumper on opening night. it is really all about whether a team decides it wants to pay whatever price morey is asking before the pressure gets too much in philly and daryl blinks first. i doubt daryl is planning on blinking first so he’s rolling the dice on the team being good, doc keeping the locker room in check etc and other teams feeling like he is willing to ride the situation out until they come to his level. this also all assumes simmons plays and isn’t showing up as a technicality just to get paid

there is also a practical element to morey waiting to do the trade insofar as a number of guys across the league aren’t even eligible to be traded until mid december and aside from that most teams are reluctant to swing a trade of this magnitude in the period in between setting their rosters for the season and seeing those rosters play a certain number of games. harden had to essentially turn the sport into a farce to upend this dynamic but i don’t think simmons will be able to do that

one could argue that simmons has already done that ahahha

I think there is a high probability Simmons pulls a muscle in the first 30 seconds of training camp (i.e. gets paid, no fines). I think that is what this is all about.

Not sure what the Sixers plan is but:

I think the Sixers can at least get an 6-8 seed without Simmons, so might as well let him sit a little if the offers aren't good. Good being good (like what was discussed just upthread), not like Lillard.

xp wtf

― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:17 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

The fatal flaw in this is if Simmons actually plays. I've not defended the Sixers all that much in this, but I have defended the fans because they haven't (YET) done anything on the whole other than support Simmons and hope he develops into a superstar. But I've also said that Sixers management is dumb if they think the fan base (at this point) is going to welcome Simmons back:

hoping this all ends like the Aaron Rodgers drama and he just stays in Philly and everyone acts like nothing happens

― frogbs, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:04 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

There is no possible way this happens with the fanbase unless Simmons walks in and hits 5 3Ps in the first quarter of the season. And if he does, he better not go 3/10 from the line.

― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:14 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's fascinating either way.

I’m not sure Rich Paul really scores that many wins for his clients per se

one could argue that simmons has already done that ahahha

he should play hard but also take a lot of 3s

woww

Kyrie Irving will not play or practice with the team until he is full participant, Nets say.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 12, 2021

gl w that

Full statement from Brooklyn on Kyrie Irving pic.twitter.com/SyIQPNZo7d

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) October 12, 2021

sooooo are they paying him or not

crazy he only needs to get one shot. the microchip doesn’t even activate until after the second shot!

hollinger published his team preview on the pelicans today and has them 43-39 and 7th in the west

did he write that before it came out that zion will not be ready to start the season?

what do we think about Desmond Bane out of memphis? He looked like he might have some break out potential against the hawks

i believe that was factored in yes xp

a little optimistic then imo

i would be pretty surprised if they finished in the top 8

tough to see how they have a good defense, no frontcourt depth, none of their guards may be that great

i just read the piece and he doesnt think theyll have a good D his argument is that they upgraded their shooting and depth which were big issues last year and that maybe their new coach will at least get them to try on D

That’s def a best case scenario

basically he just thinks that with shooters around zion and ingram they will be able to put the ball in the ring

which is maybe not unreasonable considering zion is already a dunk and layup machine at only 21 years of age, now on the other hand he is a very heavy guy who just broke his foot

the one thing you get from reading these hollinger previews (which i really enjoy) is how much he/his model value depth

i personally don’t think you can have a passable defense with zion on your team as of now, and they’re reliant to some degree on guys like alexander walker, trey murphy etc who i have no idea whether or not they’re good. but zion, ingram, jonas, graham should be a ready made play in game contender at worst barring some disaster, tho since it’s the pelicans disaster may come into play

This is the second pretty serious injury for Zion Williamson in 2 nba seasons, and they essentially covered up both of them

their whole situation w/ him is so deeply bizarre

Pop continuing to be great:

ICYMI: Here's #Spurs coach Gregg Popovich's comments Friday on President Biden's proclamation of Indigenous Peoples Day...and Pop calling out Alamo Heights ISD for continuing to honor Christopher Columbus. #KSATnews pic.twitter.com/xislHX2NmJ

— RJ Marquez (@KSATRJ) October 11, 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBgvxBmXMAAbRSa?format=jpg&name=large

Wall for Irving, let's do it ;)

Irving for Simmons solves both teams' issues on paper. I don't see that working out for the Sixers for sure.

kyrie said he'll retire if hes traded his situation is more toxic than simmons imo

houston would probably rather have irving retire on them than have to keep paying john wall. A win-win!

thats prob true lol

retirement and drifting into obscurity is exactly what kyrie deserves and probably needs

kyrie said he'll retire if hes traded his situation is more toxic than simmons imo

― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:23 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

did he really? so he won't get the vax to play in home games and also won't accept a trade to a team that might be able to play him 75% of the time? he probably should retire, honestly

tbf he prob already has a reality show pitch locked and loaded xp

It's not like there's nothing good about Kyrie. Focusing on community shit might be good for him

Kyrie Irving is extremely generous:

· Bought George Floyd's mom a house
· Paid tuition for 9 HBCU students
· Bought 200+ kids Christmas presents
· Provided 250k Thanksgiving meals in NYC
· Donated $1.5M to WNBA players

It's sad to see him called selfish for a personal decision.

— Joe Pompliano (@JoePompliano) October 12, 2021

i mean its nick wright but still

Some NBA news:

There are a handful of Kyrie trades that potentially make sense for the Nets, Kyrie’s agents have made it known that Kyrie would simply *retire from the NBA* if Brooklyn were to trade him.

— nick wright (@getnickwright) September 15, 2021

Celtics’ C/F Al Horford has tested positive for coronavirus and is in quarantine, team says. Celtics forward Jaylen Brown tested positive Friday.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 12, 2021

Would love Kyrie to retire and do good works. Preferably right before GM6 of the ECF.

rich people tend to give a little money away im not going to canonize kyrie for doing the same, unless he gives me one million dollars

Oh boy pic.twitter.com/7gQRiV2OWE

— Vinay Killawala (@vkillem) October 12, 2021

his delusions of grandeur are amazing

now he's going to quit the only thing that makes his opinions anymore notable than any other dumbass on the street

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahwhwhwhwhwhwhahahaha

it’s worth pointing out how thin the sourcing is here but still, lol