Madonna & Missy Elliot's GAP commercial.....

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Madonna is a lost cause. Hardly surprising.

I have lost all respect for Missy Elliot over this. She can go fuck herself.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 4 August 2003 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

I work part-time at the Gap, and there's a bank of plasma monitors over the register. They usually just show Gap images, but right now the Missy/Madonna commercial runs pretty much continuously (without sound, since there's already a music mix pumping over the speakers).

...And people are FASCINATED by the ad. They stand there in little groups, frozen, staring up at the screens. (Occasionally, they'll break into little conversations about whether or not Madonna's "still got it," etc.) The level of attention is a little unnerving: you'd think they've never seen televised images of these entertainers before. Anyway, by this barometer, the commercial sure is popular.

gap 'ployee (samjeff), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

well yeah - you're talking dominant pop figure of past twenty years meets dominant pop figure of today (see "Say Say Say")

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

This ad would be much more entertaining if it had featured Missy Elliot dueting with a burly, black-denim clad Glen Danzig.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

Covering "Say Say Say," of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

My God you two need to start an ad agency NOW.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:18 (twenty years ago) link

Please no one mention that song again. What can i do, to get it through to you??

(But totally, altho when that came out i was like "who's the oddly-familiar fuddy-duddy with Michael?" Paul didn't seem very concerned with still "having it," it just seemed like a laugh.)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/urban/images/up_missy_blue_l.jpg http://members.aol.com/jimjbeat/gallery/glenn.jpg

"Say, say, say what you want but don't play games with my affection
Take, take, take what you need but don't leave me with no direction"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

I can see it all now!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 4 August 2003 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

advertising the new McGriddle, no less!

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

yes!

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

I must be the only MJ fan who can't remember 'Say Say Say'. Time to turn in my disco socks.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:35 (twenty years ago) link

Jesus H. Christ. Just listened to the cd (reprising the -- for lack of a better term -- "jingle") and it's truly, truly dire.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:53 (twenty years ago) link

hmmm, maybe the missy/danzig collab isn't so far off. i've recently seen a commercial for text messaging with music by the ramones and a kitkat commercial with what i'm guessing to be andrew w.k.

disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

(and let's not kid ourselves. the really bad thing about the gap commercial is the jeans)(the last sentence is grammatically correct, but it sure sounds weird)

disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

I thought you didn't advertise..?

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 11:04 (twenty years ago) link

...And people are FASCINATED by the ad. [Gap Customers] stand there in little groups, frozen, staring up at the screens.
Yes, but doesn't this describe all Gap customers all the time? They are attracted to shiny objects as fast movement. You could get the same effect by gluing tinfoil to the faceplace of a fan and turning the fan on at full power. Flappity Flappity Flappity.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

Whereas Goodwill consumers have more of an inner life? This is one of your lamest jokes/disses yet.

Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

In the latest NEW YORK magazine (with Heidi Klum on the cover), Missy explains herself regarding the rumour that she snubbed Madonna that day, claiming she "wasn't herself" due to a "personal crisis." More cringe-inducingly, Madonna purportedly sent her "spiritual adviser" over to Missy's trailer, who "gave her a bit of red string" to wear around her wrist.

Fuckin' stranger than fiction.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:20 (twenty years ago) link

Good god. That story just makes me want to burn down buildings for some reason.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:21 (twenty years ago) link

Yay! Ned embraces his inner pyromania! HONOR THE FIRE, NEDRICK!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

NEDRICK -> REDNECK.

YEEHAW!!

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

That story fills me with joy. I wish everyone was as inexplicably bizarre as Missy and Madonna.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

Clearly I have missed my calling.

Dan, would you like Alex and I to be ad agents, therapists or pyros? Or all three?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

Whereas Goodwill consumers have more of an inner life?
Naw. Most Goodwill customers are the same. It's just they have drugs and mental disorders to explain their behavior.

This is one of your lamest jokes/disses yet.
Joke? What Joke? It's a solid provable fact based on watching the behavior of actual human beings in the Gap. Go down to the Gap and carefully watch the inhabitants. It'll blow your mind.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

Dan, would you like Alex and I to be ad agents, therapists or pyros? Or all three?

CLEARLY ALL THREE. Who are you asking?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link

"Tell me how you are feeling and I will create an advertising campaign to help you achieve clousre. Then I will set you on fire." - Alex and Ned, Pyrotherapy & Advertising

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

This sounds like it should be the new opening quote on Iron Chef.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

It's a solid provable fact based on watching the behavior of actual human beings in the Gap. Go down to the Gap and carefully watch the inhabitants. It'll blow your mind.

And they are different from the inhabitants of any other shop how?

Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

Well, the guys in the chop shop always seem to look more nervous.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

And they are different from the inhabitants of any other shop how?
I'm not 100% sure why, but they are. I never see befuddlement of that sort in patrons of Sears, Emporium Capwell, JC Penney or Walmart.
But it is a noticable phenomenon*. Go down and check it out. When you have a theory as to why it happens, come back and tell us.

Note: Yes, I am exaggerating the intensity of the chihuahua on nitrous befuddlement I've noticed to anyone who goes into the Gap. But I'm not exaggerating about the existence of the phenomenon. It does, however, become painfully noticable in the Gap for Kids store. I suspect theres either subliminal messages on the loudspeaker or something being pumped in via the airvents < /PARANOIA>

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Just saw this commercial again. It gives me the shivers.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

This thread never really recovered from that vile opening post.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

The ad itself reminds me of the Run DMC/Aerosmith 'Walk This Way' vid, more than anything

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

ad report card Advertising deconstructed.

Madonna Falls Into the Gap
Her new ad's a dud, but Devo cleans up the mess.
By Rob Walker
Posted Monday, August 25, 2003, at 7:53 AM PT

Remember the song "Good Vibrations," as it was reworked with Sunkist-specific lyrics? Or whatever that hair-care product was that was peddled by a woman singing, "I'm gonna wash that gray right outta my hair!"? As ubiquitous as popular music is in ads these days, the practice of reworking lyrics for the benefit of the advertised product has mostly faded. Or it had until recently. This formerly shunned practice returns in two recent ads: one in which Madonna and Missy Elliott perform on behalf of the Gap (see it here) and another in which Devo sings for something called Swiffer (see it here.).

The much anticipated Madonna ad is a total dud. In it, she dances about on a city-street movie set, lip-syncing a song that mixes the beats of "Into the Groove" with lyrics from the more recent single "Hollywood." Then Missy Elliott pops up and does a short rap on the subject of Gap jeans, and the two improbably prance about like good, Gap-shopping friends. Madonna sings the closing line, "Get into the groove, got to show ya some moves, best to take it from me. …" Totally limp.

As a failure, the ad is interesting because Madonna has always been praised as much for her ability to market herself as for her actual talent as a singer and performer. Long before the "cool hunter" idea entered mainstream marketing discourse, she was renowned for spotting new trends and exploiting them for her own benefit. But in the wake of yet another box office tanking (what was that last movie called?) and disappointing album sales, she can't even get an actual commercial right. Maybe Madonna really is over.

The Swiffer ad makes no particular attempt to be hip, self-conscious or otherwise. It's a totally by-the-numbers spot in which a central casting Mom robot-dances around her suburban habitat, using Swiffer cleaning products. The sound track is "Whip It," given new lyrics: "When you've got a dirty floor/ You need Swiffer …" and so on, climaxing with, "With Swiffer—place looks great! It's not too late! Swiffer's good!" There's a mild joke at the end as Mom's daughters (curiously dressed in 1980s outfits) hope that they will not inherit whatever condition has afflicted the old lady.

This is the most preposterous ad I've seen all year—and I love it. It's hilarious. And it only works because they got Devo's actual lead singer, Mark Mothersbaugh, to sing the sublimely stupid new lyrics.

Advertising Age reported the debut of this spot with the headline "Former Anti-Business Band Does P&G Commercials," and the story referred to "Whip It" as "the anthem of … Devo's rage against a society dehumanized by industry and commercialism." I would call that a novel interpretation of the song's essentially meaningless lyrics, but never mind. It's certainly true that Devo had a vaguely angry and corrosive attitude (or pose?) toward consumer society in general.

But to ask whether this means Devo has "sold out" completely misses the point. Mothersbaugh told Ad Age that the band agreed to remake the song for the commercial because "it was so absurd." He understates the case: The ad is perverse. As an aside, this isn't the first commercial to feature a Devo song: Target used "It's a Beautiful World" not long ago (a song that might actually qualify as a rage-filled anthem, albeit a subtle one; the less subtle video featured a series of nuclear explosions).

I would say that the Swiffer spot comes off as a parody, but that's not quite right. Because what makes it so delightful is that somebody at an ad agency actually thought it would be a good idea. Given the opportunity to make such a self-evidently foolish thing into a reality, placed in time slots aimed at the mythic American Housewife, it would have been a crime for Devo to say no. The name "Devo" was, after all, short for "devolution," a kind of evolution in reverse—so how could they possibly stand in the way of such a perfect crystallization of that idea?

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

It's a sad day, rationalization or not.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

huh? that devo ad sounds great!

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

this whole "musicians doing ads" thing is so politicized on ilm. i should note that my objections to the Gap ad were aesthetic, not ethical.

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

Not bad, amateurist.

Every time Missy (and the backing geeks) rap "Where you get them JEEEEEEEAAANNSS?" Eddie Murphy's gay intepretation of Mr T pops in my head.

Also, TS: M&M@The Gap vs The Jacksons do Pepsi. Because this is still less wrong than what Michael did to 'Billie Jean'.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:18 (twenty years ago) link

Saying "The ad is perverse." just sounds like a cop-out to me. An ad is an ad is an ad, regardless of its content.

Between these two cases, though, there's a bit of a difference. Mothersbaugh's not necessarily trying to re-introduce Devo into the marketplace....it's strictly a nostalgia trip, whereas the Gap ad strike me as desperate measure on Madonna's part to re-inflate the withering blimp that is her current album and to STAY CURRENT & RELEVANT!

Devo also did a Honda ad back in the distant past.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

FWIW, a group of girls at my office, typical GAP shoppers you could say, were going on and on about how cute this ad is.

Kim (Kim), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

(And for the record, American Life > Under Construction)

David Merryweather (DavidM), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

a group of girls at my office, typical GAP shoppers you could say, were going on and on about how cute this ad is.


...and you set them on fire, I trust.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

No no, but I did give them more work. I am "the man".

Kim (Kim), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

madonna looks tired and joyless in the ad. missy looks ebullient by comparison.

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

It seems they've clipped the ad a little bit, excising the final scene of Madonna asserting "I can do that too," trying to mimic Missy's split.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 August 2003 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

there were always two versions of it though. There's no agenda to that!

jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Monday, 25 August 2003 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

Sad effort in commercialism, though I'm glad to see Missy strutting her stuff anywhere.

Madge's bills can't be that tight, surely.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 25 August 2003 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

also even when saying something so colloquially american as "best to take it from me" madonna can't seem to let go of her adopted patrician accent. it sounds awkward.

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 19:29 (twenty years ago) link


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