yeah bridges was so good in their playoff run, type of guy everyone wants
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link
i think jjj might have more upside but hes def behind bridges in development, i think the thing people dont realize about him is what a good shooter he is, hes not just a catch a shoot guy he can already do all sorts of single dribble relocations come off screens a so forth, for a young big man to have that part of his game already so developed is... intriguing
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
he seems like a worker too if his defense improves to the point they can play him at center and hes out there taking 9 threes a game, well watch out
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
i will watch out
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
good
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link
feels like phoenix kinda low balled bridges which is not surprising coming for them and he either took it just bcuz he wanted the security or he gave them a bit of a discount owing to ayton, johnson etc being up soon as well. bcuz i feel like ppl were talking about him being able to go into RFA and get something close to a max level offer, or at least something in the 4/100 range that jarren got
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
i guess from memphis POV they're looking at john collins getting 4/125 and prob feel like they're saving some money on this. guy didn't even play last year so it is really valuing his potential but i would agree w/ them that he will be worth it
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
its hard to turn down that first $90m
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
yeah if he's happy there and just wants to get it over w/ and bank $90 million more power to him
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
i know personally i just took the first $90m that was put in front of me
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
i turned it down and now i’m only making $6 million like dennis schroeder
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
wonder what Huerter's gonna get
― Heez, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
is 90 the max bridges could get?
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Monday, 18 October 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, October 18, 2021 12:08 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Except Brett Brown iirc.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 18 October 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
i think he would be eligible for 25% of the salary cap which would be $32m per year as opposed to the $22.5m per year he got on this deal but i am absolutely no salary cap expert and i think ayton is going to be the one getting that kinda contract from the suns anyway. i believe also if you wait until RFA you can get an extra year unless you get the designated 5 year rookie max extension (i.e. luka, trae, mitchell etc) which i'm sure is what ayton will get. for example john collins reportedly turned down 4/90 from the hawks last offseason and then signed 5/125 w/ a player option in the final year this offseason, i think there were ppl who saw bridges doing something similar but instead he just took the money upfront. again it's important to note i may be completely wrong
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
duncan robinson got 5/90 from the heat w/ a player option as well. worse deal than bridges in terms of AAV but did get the player option year. maybe bridges calculation came down to just taking the 4 years and hitting FA again w/o playing this season out just to get a player option. in a sense you're trading some security (the extra year on the contract) for a different kind of security (locking in your money early)
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link
wonder if ayton is having feelings about bridges deal getting done first. otoh maybe bridges going a bit under market value will make him feel special that he's gonna get more.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
its all about feelings you see
A thing I keep hearing is that teams like to max out their players because it gives them a maximum contract to trade with, and they feel like if they don’t they lose the “max slot.” I don’t fully understand it tbh
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 18 October 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
yeah doesnt make a ton of sense
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
Although Doc Rivers tells me the “chemistry” with @BenSimmons25 and his teammates is getting better everyday, I can tell you he did NOT put his hand in the team huddle to end practice and stayed in the back before immediately exiting the court while others stay out shooting pic.twitter.com/i2sBAoEHO2— Jamie Apody (@JamieApody) October 18, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
soudns right jordan. honestly that number for bridges is about right i think. it will be a bargain if he keeps improving but thats not always a given. the ayton deal is much more interesting to me
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Monday, 18 October 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
I think the JJJ deal is where I draw the line. He just hasn’t gotten better over three years. Sure the talent is there. With a guy like Michael Porter (a deal I still have reservations about) you have a clear upswing and he’s not gonna forget how to shoot.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 18 October 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link
jjj just been injured a ton it seems like. like every time he starts to string some games together something else pops up. but yeah he really hasnt proven much at all
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Monday, 18 October 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link
i do think what happened w/ john collins informed the grizz decision here. if you think he's going to give you a healthy season where he plays well then someone will prob give him an offer sheet at or around the collins contract. so i understand why they decided to cut that opportunity off and give him a bit more than they would prob like to based on how he's played so far this year.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
personally, i will defend them betting on the role/archetype he fills as a player, which i think is pretty valuable if he can do it well. 3 point shooting big man who isn't a total sieve on defense (tho his defensive numbers aren't great) is a player a lot of teams would like to have. at least it's not like jarrett allen where he's exceeded expectations as a player but you're still giving $125 million to a center who can't really do anything but jump and rebound
i think another way of looking at it is that myles turner's rookie extension was 4/80 and john collins was 5/125. JJJ's is basically dead in the middle of that which feels pretty appropriate to me
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link
ESPN Sources: Suns talks with Deandre Ayton on rookie extension have ended --- without a deal. Ayton expected max contract and owner Robert Sarver hasn’t offered it. More coming on consequences for failing to reach deal with 2018 No. 1 overall pick. NBA Today debut, ESPN2. Now.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 18, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link
Indiana Pacers guard Malcolm Brogdon has agreed to an additional two-year, $45 million extension – guaranteeing him $89.3 million over the next four years, his agent Austin Brown of CAA Sports tells ESPN.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 18, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link
Because the contract is for a total of four seasons (the current contract and extension), Brogdon is not allowed to be traded this season. https://t.co/8LF6GoFIUP— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) October 18, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
woooowwww @ sarver!
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Monday, 18 October 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
incredible
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Monday, 18 October 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
Ben Simmons practicing in sweatpants with his phone in his pocket. pic.twitter.com/MEdQLxudcK— Jeff Eisenband (@JeffEisenband) October 18, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
lol even doing some light shooting is annoying as hell with a phone swimming around in your pocket, so i can tell how seriously he is taking this.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 18 October 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link
excellent footage haha
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Monday, 18 October 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
Atlanta Hawks guard Kevin Huerter has agreed on a four-year, $65 million rookie contract extension, @PrioritySports agents Mark Bartelstein and Andy Shiffman tell ESPN.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 18, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
Milwaukee Bucks guard Grayson Allen has agreed on a two-year, $20 million rookie extension, his agent Mitch Nathan of @CAA_Basketball tells ESPN. Allen arrived with the defending champions in a trade this summer. He was the 21st pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 18, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 18 October 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link
huerter kinda like jjj for me. needs to show he can stay healthy
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Monday, 18 October 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
sarver really knows how to murder great teams
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 06:02 (two years ago) link
time for a new thread imo
― micah, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 08:32 (two years ago) link
it's the day
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link
hoops!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
huzzah
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
Ben Simmons doing a great impression of my during a basketball unit in high school phys ed
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
i'm sure the locker room vibe w Simmons and the rest of the Sixers is breezy and fraternal
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
so weird that the Simmons and Kyrie situations went completely unresolved, you dont see that a lot in professional sports
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link
have at it 2021-22 NBA "REGULAR" SEASON THREAD
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link