'Jackie Brown' is a great fucking movie.

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Aimless:

After completing Pulp Fiction, Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary acquired the film rights to Elmore Leonard's novels Rum Punch, Freaky Deaky, and Killshot. Tarantino initially planned to film either Freaky Deaky or Killshot and have another director make Rum Punch, but changed his mind after re-reading Rum Punch, saying he "fell in love" with the novel all over again.[4] Killshot was later adapted into a film, produced by Jackie Brown producer Lawrence Bender. While adapting Rum Punch into a screenplay, Tarantino changed the ethnicity of the main character from white to black, as well as renaming her from Burke to Brown, titling the screenplay Jackie Brown. Tarantino hesitated to discuss the changes with Leonard, finally speaking with Leonard as the film was about to start shooting. Leonard loved the screenplay, considering it not only the best of the twenty-six screen adaptations of his novels and short stories, but also stating that it was possibly the best screenplay he had ever read.[4]

Tarantino's screenplay otherwise closely followed Leonard's novel, incorporating elements of Tarantino's trademark humor and pacing.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

afaics, Tarantino's best contribution was ensuring Pam Grier played the lead character and bringing Forster in for the main supporting role. The script, as noted, closely followed the novel. If Tarantino had bowed out early and handed over the same cast and script to another director, the movie would probably have worked out just fine.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

did you read the script before or after you saw the film?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

(xpost) As much as I agree that the performances of Grier/Forster are central--and as much as I'm far from a Tarantino lover--I do think he brought a lot to this that another director wouldn't have. Sam Jackson is, for me, as crucial as Grier/Forster, and I suspect he and Tarantino really worked together to craft that character. Or little things like Johnny Cash as Ordell sits outside Jackie's apartment; that's Tarantino.

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link

The script, as noted, closely followed the novel.

Aimless, did you read the excerpt explaining Tarantino's changing Jackie to a Black woman? That's a major change!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

I found this pretty empty and tedious when it came out; but very curious to rewatch as an older viewer -- perhaps the slower rhythms will make more sense. Not a big fan of the novel either - I think it’s the nearest Leonard got to producing a stock “Miami caper” novel.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

perfect line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e7wbs_xfas

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link

tarantino’s fingerprints are all over this movie, from the script to the soundtrack to the camera angles to the dialogue to the casting to the editing.. ffs just look at get shorty or true romance for a taste of what a “replacement level director” would bring to a story like this

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

A "script" isn't even a play -- it's a network of suggestions that a resourceful director will modify.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

The source material maybe helps the pacing of the movie somehow? I dunno. But t has a much more relaxed vibe than anything else he’s done and I love it so much. It moves at the speed of Forster’s character, and with his same intensity

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

There's a shot of Forster walking out of a screening at an AMC mall theatre, his hands in his pockets, that's so casually good, so redolent of the character he plays, that no one else could've realized it.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

he's walking out of an weekday afternoon screening!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

that's a great shot

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

It’s such a *casual* film, even when shit gets wild.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link

yeah exactly

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

It's a great movie, great cast, great book, but to argue any Tarantino movie doesn't have his fingerprints all over it (for better or worse) and that anyone could have done it is crazy

AND he's literally the only director on Earth who was going to cast Forster and Grier as the leads in a movie in 1997

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link

I remember reading an interview with Stephen King where he said his reward for finishing a novel was reading an Elmore Leonard book. I thought that a really wonderful compliment.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

it’s a really great version of the kind of films and TV shows I normally hate

Dan S, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link

and yeah, Tarantino’s fingerprints are all over it. It is a movie out of time, like Forster & DeNiro & Grier, so all the locations & cars & outfits have a very specific 70’s look while also seeming like present day…down to like, the car Forster drives or the loungey carpeted bar they go to, Grier’s airline & uniform. Tarantino cares enough about that granular stuff to hire the kind of ppl who *also* care. Same with the music. To me his specificity is what defines his style

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:47 (two years ago) link

Y'all are my people, y'all know this.

pplains, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

But

pplains, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/hfHQVoB.gif

pplains, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

lmao

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 00:33 (two years ago) link

sry pplains

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link

please pass the milk, please

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link

AND he's literally the only director on Earth who was going to cast Forster and Grier as the leads in a movie in 1997

yes, and probably the only one with the confidence to play out the entire heist scene twice & at that pace. The film is a miracle.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link

lol pp

Tarantino more about footprints anyway surely

siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

https://media1.giphy.com/media/BMTzHbtf96few/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e476barkc2oirf4s7whed7dqp8y4ciywyev112uy7d3&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

QT while he's editing one of the numerous female foot shoots in his movies

calzino, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

Oh no, someone accidentally added sexual overtones to the scene in Jackie Brown where the first woman Louis has seen in many years seduces him, in a manner that establishes her propensity for boundary-pushing. No wonder Sally Menke got fired for this blunder.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link


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