Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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I blur. Otherwise I’d have to make my bed.

Jeff, Thursday, 28 October 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

blurring would allow people to attend meetings from the can. afraid to point that out because then the company will mandate it

"bathroom breaks are no excuse for non-attendance! you have a mute and a blur button!"

the utility infielder of theatre (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 October 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

I put a lot of effort into decor but rarely have visitors so goddammit I'm going to absolutely show it off in the backdrop of a meeting.

Evan, Thursday, 28 October 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

I'm either sitting on my couch (blank white wall behind, maybe a corner of a painting visible above my head) or sitting in my "office," in which case many, many books will be visible behind me stacked in columns from floor to about halfway up the wall.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 28 October 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

my guitars have been on the wall of our home office space since long before covid when it suddenly became the background to all of her zoom meetings.

when guys (it's always only guys who say anything) with like joe bonamassa / blues laywer vibes ask if she plays and she deadpans 'no' and never follows up, or if they ask about a particular one and she'll say shit like 'yeah that one's red' or 'well that one has got a strap'.

joygoat, Thursday, 28 October 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

her = my spouse that is

joygoat, Thursday, 28 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

My office is set up so that the wall behind me is all poetry broadsides or fliers or weird pieces of art that my friends made. There's one that has a photograph of a very phallic crystal on it that has received some raised eyebrows, and there's a piece of art that is actually a drawing of the grim reaper fucking a woman from behind, but it's too weird for people to make out the specific of it lol

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 October 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

the grim reaper one also has the words "LEGENDARY SIGHTSEERS" on it.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 October 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

I'm weirdly self-conscious about making sure my guitars *don't* show in my work photos, like probably overly paranoid that people would (correctly) assume that I'm sometimes noodling on the guitar in my office on less busy WFH days.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 October 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link

work zooms sry

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 October 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link

people are thinking a lot about backgrounds is what I hear

mh, Friday, 29 October 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link

Someone once spotted my bass in the background and asked if I'd entertain them with a number.

I replied, man, who do I look like, Jeffrey Toobin?

pplains, Friday, 29 October 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link

there's a piece of art that is actually a drawing of the grim reaper fucking a woman from behind

it might be that people find this uncomfortable and unpleasant but don't want to seem prudish about saying something. It wouldn't bother me personally, but I've been in workplaces where people have had unnecessarily sexualised conversations etc and I've seen people squirm but feel too uncomfortable to say anything, and unable to leave the situation otherwise.

boxedjoy, Friday, 29 October 2021 10:09 (two years ago) link

yeah tbqh i would seriously reconsider this choice table. displaying sexually explicit materials in a work setting can very definitely rise to sexual harassment or related catgeories of bad behavior, and even if not, have a good chance of creating an uncomfortable work environment which i imagine you don't want to do! i am not a lawyer or an HR person, i've just taken the annual trainings and it seems dicey. i get that it's your home office, but ppl on a zoom call are forced to see what's behind you...

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 October 2021 12:25 (two years ago) link

It's a metaphor for what capitalism is doing to all of us

(but I agree with the Doc)

gin and catatonic (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 October 2021 12:30 (two years ago) link

not related but on the topic of Zoom, i would just like to complain about the transcription feature in recordings, which is absolutely awful speech-to-text stuff and should not be on by default. really didn't appreciate my lecture comments about Kasimir Malevich turning into "mounting a bitch." like maybe there should at least be a thing that alerts you when they think they're going to insert swear words?!

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

lol!

Nhex, Friday, 29 October 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

hahahaha

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

Maybe it was the grim reaper

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

ahah
During a conference the organizers switched on that transcription thing... but the lecture was in french and the transcription in english.
That provided some awesome surrealist cut-up text !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 29 October 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

wrt the blurring thing: it's wild that you can do something complete innocuous and people are sitting there fuming about it apparently, had no idea that would be an issue for anyone

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

This thread has taught me that some people don't think at all about their zoom backgrounds and some people think way, way too much about other people's zoom backgrounds.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

yeah i don't even think about it i just used blurring from the start, no one i work with needs to see my place (not for any big reason i just don't see why they need to so why show it?)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

I lucked into setting my desk up in a way that the view was a very bland stretch of wall behind me. So nothing to keep clean or think about, but I absolutely get the blurring thing. I just can't imagine putting that much thought into what someone else has behind them, either way.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

seems like people do things differently and have different reactions to the different things other people do

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 29 October 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

Well, it can be distracting. I had a conference with a very serious public law professor and I must admit I was a bit surprised to see that all the furniture and decoration in her home are pink.
Nothing wrong with that but I don't really want people to see my private space !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 29 October 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

huge lols at Kasimir Malevich, thank you for that

also I think about zoom backgrounds a lot because I love seeing the random spaces that everyone had to improvise into wfh setups and what kind of weird shit they choose to surround themselves with, i'm sad when people have fake/blurred backgrounds.

joygoat, Friday, 29 October 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

fwiw, you usually can't see the "legendary sightseers" art unless i'm in a sitting position, which is next to never— i stand at my desk about 95% of the time.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 29 October 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

trust me, also, when i say that i've checked to make sure that it can't really be seen or deciphered when i am sitting.

you all must think i'm a true idiot.

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 29 October 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

The only thing I dislike about backgrounds is that sometimes parts of your body fade into them if you sit too far back and then it looks like your missing part of your head.

Fortunately at my company headless employees aren't too unusual

the utility infielder of theatre (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 October 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

sometimes parts of your body fade into them if you sit too far back and then it looks like your missing part of your head.

Yeah to be quite clear this is what I find distracting about the blur effect - I don't mind people hot wanting to have their rooms public. What I mind is the wonky head-edges that fluctuate when you move.

gin and catatonic (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

Either of those extremes though... in some moods I find them VASTLY preferable to that thing where there's a zone of blur-leading-to-sharpness around your head and behind you it's Cancun or whatever.

it's awkward for sure, like a somewhat primitive greenscreen type filter. Though I get judgy about how people install art and decorative objects (as well as what they are) in their homes, and the backgrounds, actually, to be honest, spares me the uncomfortable judging situation. Because if people like the way they decorate their homes and install art in a less than professional way, that is really just fine. If people truly like having a bunch of small pieces clustered together in a way so that each piece isn't really given enough space to be a discrete thing ... then, really, that's fine. If people like their shitty, tacky frames of things that really ... aren't worth being framed tbh ... that's a-ok.

sarahell, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

many, many books will be visible behind me stacked in columns from floor to about halfway up the wall.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:14 AM (yesterday)

this is actually a very good look. Shelves of books are great. Even stacks of books. It contains details that someone can look at if the meeting is boring. Books are aesthetic, and hard to "get wrong" (as opposed to art), and it makes you look like you aren't a bougie robot person.

Yesterday at work, I had a meeting with members of "larger more corporate non-profit" and one of them has the home office set up with a room that looks so minimal and neutral (beige, off-white, very tasteful) that made me think that this person is afraid to have a personality (or lacks genuine interests) as well as being affluent enough to afford so much open space without things in it.

sarahell, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

I can’t recall where I read it but there has been a whole cottage industry of hiring people to interior design your background. E.g. selecting books and items to make you look good/convey a certain personality.

Jeff, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

This thread is bonkers:

So, starting in 2010 Fisher Price re-released their Music Box Record Player, in a classic-toy version that doesn't work like the original. I got one, so I'm gonna take it apart pic.twitter.com/DytUrgzlCj

— foone (@Foone) October 29, 2021

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 30 October 2021 11:17 (two years ago) link

Are ppl thinking too much or not enough or in the wrong way in either extreme about their zoom backgrounds during this global pandemic and remember #bekind

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 October 2021 11:36 (two years ago) link

wowwwww at the fisher price exposé, that should become shorthand for an entire category of these things.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 30 October 2021 12:29 (two years ago) link

woah!
Fisher Price have completely fucked over their cash register as well. Don't get me started on that one.

kinder, Saturday, 30 October 2021 13:06 (two years ago) link

it would be cool if they were also secretly connected to the internet.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Saturday, 30 October 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link

Ooo, and voice activated.

Jeff, Saturday, 30 October 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

ty for FP thread

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 30 October 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

Fisher Price has invented skynet

sarahell, Saturday, 30 October 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

Lmao at the record player just being a repurposed music box

the utility infielder of theatre (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

it’s not, though. the original was a music box, the new one had a design requirement that required a steady stage spring->consistent motion transformation mechanism. and apparently the way to do that (probably by the third contractor down the line) was to buy bulk-sourced music boxes. it could be anything in there

the level of “we need input A to get to output B” in advanced electronics has utterly gone to shit to the point where buying remaindered little computers has meant you have all kinds of shit crammed into everything. in toys and mechanical devices it’s just rube goldberg all the way down

mh, Sunday, 31 October 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link

I would so much read a further investigation into the series of decisions that led that toy to be made that way. I can't believe it's somehow cheaper to make it so elaborately.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 31 October 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

this is how shit happens on the bulk market!

like, a mechanical temperature sensor isn’t something people make anymore, so I would not be surprised to pop open an electric tea kettle in a few years to find a sensor capable of running a portable weather station with humidity, barometric pressure, etc just not wired to anything

how many things can you think of exist that want a constant energy output off of a low-tension wound spring? music boxes and this thing

mh, Sunday, 31 October 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link

yeah but why not just make it the old mechanical way? Why did it need chips at all?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 31 October 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link

Presumably because it's cheaper this way. I'm no expert on mass production economics, but this assembly approach, inelegant as it is, costs less than setting up production lines for producing bespoke mechanical products.

Alba, Sunday, 31 October 2021 08:22 (two years ago) link

This is maybe the opposite of this thread, but twice in the last hour I've had services and sites, in this case expressvpn and the new yorker, offer me an email link to sign in. It's like they've finally realized everybody forgets their passwords and is constantly having to click to change their password and then just do it over and over again. Is getting an email every time you need to sign into something ideal? No, but as an option for when you forget a password it's a step better than being forced to make another password what you're just going to forget.

And yeah, I use 1password, but it's not always updated.

dan selzer, Sunday, 31 October 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link


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