Worst ever festival line up?

So if no-one was injecting drugs into strangers, is it still unusual that a lot of the fatalities were apparently due to cardiac arrest?

not when you're crushed and asphyxiating, no

all nine people at Rockskilde died of cardiac arrest

Neadnerthal otm, I keep seeing people conflating cardiac arrest with heart attack, which aren't the same at all. Not saying you Halfway, but esp on Twitter I keep seeing people saying, "don't you think it's suspicious that so many people had heart attacks??? there is more to the story we haven't heard".

i'm just struggling w/ why so many people I know literally don't get the mechanics of a crowd surge. like I get not everybody was the concertgoer I was pre-pandemic but it's like the feeling of standing with your feet not being on ground, lurching in both directions in a sea of people and trying to stay upright, with zero body autonomy.

and nobody's conducting the train, it's like a tug of war and nobody knows who is on either team

My wife says ppl on social media are spreading rumors about a satanic ritual being involved or something? JFC...

heh yeah that too. cos we need a Michelle Remembers 2 by winter

Oh yeah the social media discussion around this is absolutely deranged, on the level of middle-school rumors.

I mean, the posters and set design and the rest lean unabashedly into occult kitsch, so it’s fair enough that people take that seriously, in the way people would if someone died at an Ozzy concert in his prime.

Rode past the concert site last night on my way to work. Due to the investigation, they haven't yet taken down the stages or a good bit of the tents etc. It's quite eerie, particularly the main stage, which backs right up on the Main St. fence, and easily visible to anyone passing by.

one of the worst festival line-ups i saw recently was for travis scott's "astroworld". my heart just about stopped when i saw who was playing :O

FP

too soon?

feel like such a heel for laughing but...i did.

One of the hospitalized victims has died, bringing the death toll to 9.

Hospitalized 9-year-old dies, death count now 10.

https://abc13.com/astroworld-festival-tragedy-ezra-blount-child-injured-at-travis-scott-concert-2021/11236835/

It’s very sad, and I’m surprised children were there. Are festivals typically all-ages?

Usually. You have to remember that this particular event was presented as being a kinda-sorta family friendly event, with amusement park rides and a carnival midway. I can imagine alot of tickets were gifted as birthday or early Christmas presents.

most festivals are all-ages, aren't they? unless we're talking like small-time punk festivals at one bar or something.

i can't think of any big festivals like this that are/would be 21+.

That’s interesting; I don’t remember seeing kids when I attended a fests back in the day, and they wouldn’t have seemed like an environment for children. Lots of drunk adults, rowdiness, etc. Not to put the blame on people who brought kids, I’m just surprised they were there.

(I’ve seen kids at seated stadium concerts, of course)

maybe they are different elsewhere in the world, but the big ones i've been to have all been kid-friendly, i think.

9 years old, went to a concert and died. so sad.

They removed Travis Scott as a Coachella headliner, but don't worry, Rage Against the Machine is still there, which means there will be plenty of chill music for the packed crowd to relax to.

read that as Travis Tritt

I'd be down for Travis Tritt at Coachella

They could troll Travis Scott by just featuring bands and people named Travis. Travis Tritt, Travis Barker, Travis, Randy Travis ...

i'd be down for Hologram GG Allin

holographic piss

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – As Helping A Hero has already awarded over 150 homes to veterans across 24 states, Johnny Morris, founder of Bass Pro Shops, issued the 100 Homes Challenge to help fund the next 100 homes. As part of the challenge, Lee Greenwood and Paula Deen will serve as hosts of the Helping A Hero Telethon, which will premiere on Monday, December 27, at 8e/7c PM on RFD-TV, The Cowboy Channel, and One America Network.

Music performances by Crystal Gayle, Debby Boone, The Oak Ridge Boys, The Frontmen, John Conlee, The Gatlin Brothers, Home Free, Darryl Worley, and a finale with Sam Moore and T. Graham Brown with special guests Janie Fricke, Lee Brice, Michael Ray, Tim Rushlow, and Darryl Worley will highlight the one hour program.

Yes, it's a telethon, not a festival, but I'd say anything from the founder of Bass Pro Shops, in conjunction with Paula fuckin' Deen and Lee fuckin' Greenwood, raising money for "military personnel severely injured in the war on terror," broadcast on the Cowboy Channel (wtf?) and One America Network, has got to be one of the worst ever *anything.*

If they're truly raising $$ for wounded vets (as opposed to more... sinister things that crowd could be up to), I'd call it a draw.

This is kind of a weird lineup:

https://vegasexperience.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/970x250-standard-copy.jpeg

vegas is unspeakably weird so it's vmic

doesn't seem that weird to me.

I don’t see any two of those acts going together—maybe Vanilla Ice and Tone Loc?—let alone all five. Maybe I’m wrong

it's an 80s and 90s dance party in Las Vegas. what exactly are you looking for here? some sort of stylistic coherence or something? people are not there expecting the bands to "fit" together.

i'd actually say that's a pretty impressive/understandable lineup of live performers for an 80s/90s dance party on NYE in Vegas.

xp: Bobby Brown is also roughly era/audience appropriate.

I don't associate the Village People with the '80s, but hey, why not throw them in, right?

They were already "Ready For the 80's" in 1979!

I'm really starting to question the integrity of this Fremont Street Las Vegas 80s and 90s dance party

The Fremont Street Experience, a cultural institution with an insanely high bar

It’s not eligible for this thread because Vegas? Lol

Not to belabor this, you guys – but to me, that collection of acts just didn’t fit any particular “taste profile”… unlike the more intentionally curated “retro” concert packages you see all the time. I have a hard time seeing someone rush to buy a ticket based on that lineup, even if they do just wanna party on NYE. That’s why it’s funny! I’m not mad at it.

Shit From Ages Ago Party

Hoping the Village People do the "ice ice baby" background chant.

Are we expecting lineups to somehow have a very specific theme? That can work, but I much prefer large, genre-spanning lineups. I know that can and has gone wrong and that ILM likely prefers the former.

morrisp are you familiar with the oeuvre of any dance-y cover act that plays at a local outdoor (non-music) festival? most have stepped up a bit but songs from all those artists could be done… by one band

or a cover band that plays at any suburban festival to be half-listened to with families milling around

I’ve also had the “beer tent at a state fair where every song is country or hip hop” experience so idk

Yeah a decent wedding band trying to please an audience aged 40-70 would almost certainly bring out some of that material, with Flock a sort of odd band out - maybe if the the groom had been a new wave dude in '85, they might add "Space Age Love Song" to the mix. Maybe not the full intro to "Modern Love Is Automatic" unless specifically requested.

its a funny lineup in the sense that back in their day all of those acts fans would have actively hated each other. but yeah, also its pretty much a direct lift from the playlists of many oldies stations in 2021 and millions of modern listeners wouldnt identify those acts as being different genres today, in the same way that they would classify frank sinatra, elvis, and the ronettes together.

I'm familiar w/the Jack FM principle, but I guess in my mind there's a difference btw "this playlist is so random!" and "I'm going to buy a ticket to stand in a room and watch each of these particular artists play multiple songs" (who even wants to hear Vanilla Ice play multiple songs?)

(...but for all I know, it's sold out, and you guys are totally OTM!)

it’s an entire street experience, man