There we go. FDA clears Moderna and Pfizer's Covid vaccine booster shots for ALL U.S. adults. Just like that. https://t.co/i3o2juKoPs— Chise 🧬🧫🦠💉🔜 MFF (@sailorrooscout) November 19, 2021
― suggest bainne (gyac), Friday, 19 November 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link
we've got another 'covid winter' comin' up. i'm glad I sneaked in getting some minor medical needs attended to between July and October.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
Let's hope it's a spike (which I expect) and not a surge. Looks like Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Michigan are doing worst.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
Illinois isn't quite as bad as those states yet, but not quite as high yet. It's not surprising, given other countries, but still frustrating. Just glad my son's sequence has started and my wife and I will both be boosted by Monday. All we can do at this point.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
What do you guys reference for nationwide metrics? I’ve been
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link
*only checking nyc figures on gothamist for awhile
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-18/covid-delta-sub-variant-is-spreading-fast-in-u-k-survey-shows
That represents a 2.8% daily growth rate for sub-variant AY.4.2 over the course of the REACT survey, from Oct. 19 to Nov. 5, the researchers said. Still, the new sub-variant seemed less likely to cause symptomatic Covid.
iiiiinteresting
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
Whoa. Get boosted.
Slides for ACIP meeting are up. Pfizer's 3 dose vs. 2 dose study is up: https://t.co/A2UABg1QSz pic.twitter.com/rL3hDkPdWp— Edward Nirenberg (@ENirenberg) November 19, 2021
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
xpost of course the news bytes regarding delta sub-variant is the 'more contagious', people neglecting quotes like the following
Christina Pagel, director of the Clinical Operational Research Unit at University College London, told CNBC there’s no reason to be concerned over the variant yet. “Delta compared to alpha was around 60% more transmissible, it was doubling every week,” she said. “This is going up by a percent or two a week — it’s much, much slower. So in that sense, it’s not a big disaster like delta was. It will probably gradually replace delta over the next few months. But there’s no sign it’s more vaccine resistant, (so) at the moment I wouldn’t be panicking about it.”
“Delta compared to alpha was around 60% more transmissible, it was doubling every week,” she said. “This is going up by a percent or two a week — it’s much, much slower. So in that sense, it’s not a big disaster like delta was. It will probably gradually replace delta over the next few months. But there’s no sign it’s more vaccine resistant, (so) at the moment I wouldn’t be panicking about it.”
or the possibility that it's making people less sick (which admittedly they say it's too early to say for certain)
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
The "boosters approved for all adults" thing is funny to me, in my world every adult has already gotten the booster because nobody at Walgreens cares whether you're formally "eligible" and I just can't see the slightest moral issue with "taking somebody else's spot" at this point, it's easy as heck to get these appointments.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 19 November 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
the vast majority of people who have got the booster already were in fact eligible but many didn't know it because of the CDC's inscrutable recommendations that recommended boosters for like 90% of the population using incomprehensible language.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 November 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link
it's easy as heck to get these appointments.
not in my neck of the woods
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 November 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link
What do you guys reference for nationwide metrics?
I bounce around, but I look at covidactnow.org pretty much daily.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 19 November 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
http://www.covidactnow.org sorry
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 19 November 2021 20:05 (two years ago) link
Same here. To be clear, it wasn't as difficult as it was back in March and April or anything, but I was really surprised by how difficult it was compared to what I'd heard. It took me a week of searching, on and off, to find one that didn't require a 20-30 minute drive and time off of work. Even then the first appointment I could get was a week out (this Sunday, finally). The Walgreen's within a 10 mile radius had nothing open until the week after Thanksgiving and our local health system had nothing until after Christmas! I think my timing landed right when it opened up for the 5-11 crowed, which was good news and certainly explained some of the difficulty, but it took much more patience and hunting than I expected.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
another source for nationwide metrics, recommended to me by a statistics professor:
https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression/
― Brad C., Friday, 19 November 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link
Also, jumping back to yesterday's discussion about school shortages. We JUST NOW got an email that our district has to abruptly cancel school Monday and Tuesday of next week (we were already off Wednesday) due to staff shortages.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
So, uh, yeah. There are definitely bigger problems and more important things in the world right now, but struggling to find childcare for two days on a Friday afternoon (along with every single parent in the entire city) is not something I needed to add to the pile.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link
That sucks, jvc. Tbh I think it's a little crazy that workplaces expect people to show up the week of Thanksgiving. It has always seemed a wasted week to me— school never had much going on, and neither has work. Why keep up the charade?
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 19 November 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link
Oh I don't disagree but, well, long story and I have to be here at least the first two days of the week.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
Oh I totally get it. I also have to work on Monday and Tuesday. It's still absurd.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 19 November 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
My university is fully open until Thursday. I usually cancel Wednesday class.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link
Students start break on Wednesday, but we're open that day still for staff.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link
I cancelled class Wednesday because I teach at 8:30 and there's no way any of my already sporadically-attending students were going to show up for that.
― joygoat, Saturday, 20 November 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link
Good thread
Trying to keep objective.But looking at the numbers around boosters, my main concern is that the results are being absurdly undersold.Most people are sick of COVID, sick of being told what to do, and are thinking of boosters are a nice-to-have.They are transformative. (1/4) pic.twitter.com/coSDo7YtpD— Paul Mainwood (@PaulMainwood) November 18, 2021
Moderna Booster Update: 8+ monthsPeople question long term data on the vaccine. I'm the longest term data there is at 20+ months post vax.8+ months ago I was boosted.I now had a 2nd LabCorp test my blood for antibodies, and I am STILL off the charts still at >2,500U/ml pic.twitter.com/hlrzuMjVjk— Neal Browning (@NealBrowning) November 16, 2021
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
wow, thanks
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link
That is what I like to hear.
― hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
xp Yeah thanks for posting that.
― Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
Holy fuck
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
What really sucks is that while "we need more data before issuing boosters" is a reasonable position (and my position), a lot of blue-check voices started to say they were immoral or completely unnecessary.
So you got people who don't want them cos "the vaccine clearly doesn't work ", but also people who won't because it's unethical to hoard vaccine, or think only immunocompromised or elder people need them.
Agree that they have to fix the messaging because I was one of those people that was convinced they were a bad idea not that long ago
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
I would be totally fine with annual boosters, but unfortunately we live in a society. So the prospect that recurring boosters might not be necessary is extremely good news.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 20 November 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link
Definitely
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 November 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link
lol caek
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link
probly be mixed into the flu shot eventually or can mrna not do that or whatever?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:05 (two years ago) link
shit can we get the vaccine mixed in with molly
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
where we at with those pills anyways?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link
My husband and I got our booster and our flu shots at the same time this evening. One in each arm, and the shoulder in my flu arm is killing me.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
i was actually surprised how much my arm hurt after the flu shot too, as it hadn't happened in previous years
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 November 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link
I had the flu/booster combo in different arms too — the flu arm hurt most at first, but the COVID arm hurt more the second day. Felt fine otherwise tho. But people’s reactions to the booster seem to vary widely.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 21 November 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link
I got it on a Saturday so I would have Sunday to recover from whatever side effects might happen, since I don't have a client with a schedule that would allow me to lay down on a couch most of the day.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link
I don't have one with that schedule any more, I should say.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link
I got my booster yesterday morning and overheard the pharmacist that U of TX is working on vaccine delivery through a patch that you wear on your arm for 12 hours that supposedly provides better uptake than an injection.
― hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Sunday, 21 November 2021 12:48 (two years ago) link
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:22 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I got the double (Moderna booster/flu) yesterday and it's the opposite for me.
― hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Sunday, 21 November 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link
This morning I have a horrible headache and two arms that I can't raise over my head.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link
good job typing! I don't get the one shot per arm thing. I'd have to live really far from a clinic. My only side effect from each thing was a useless arm.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 21 November 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link
I'm on a cell phone. :-) (I took some ibuprofen, which helped.)
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 21 November 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
Completely insane
Party divide in vaccination now outstrips other demographic factors including education, race/ethnicity, and insurance status - an unvaccinated person in April was almost equally likely to be an R or D; now 3.5:1 Republican https://t.co/tXzshte8b0 pic.twitter.com/6YMnyXwqQA— Brendan Nyhan (@BrendanNyhan) November 21, 2021
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 21 November 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
I have to fly to Florida for work next month so I figured I might as well just suck it up and get the booster. Anyone out there have a mild experience with the first two shots but then get knocked on your ass by the booster? Just wondering for planning purposes, i.e. whether I should block off the day (or next day?) in case of reaction. I had Pfizer and my reaction to both the first two shots was mild, just got a little tired.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 21 November 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link
I was fine after first two, knocked out by booster, especially at night. Bearable though.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link
If someone subscribes to the Oregonian I'd love to read this
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2021/11/covid-19-deaths-leave-some-vaccine-hesitant-oregonians-unconvinced.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link