Old time actors and directors that you were surprised to find out were married to each other once upon a time

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The train conductor played the bartender on All in the Family, just to continue the, um, derail.

Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:21 (two years ago) link

Jason Wingreen, who was also the voice of Boba Fett in The Empire Strikes Back, one of ILX's top 100 films of all time, not that IGAF

Josefa, Thursday, 25 November 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link

Thanks.

Don't think we talked about how Liza Minelli and Desi Arnaz, Jr. lived together for a while and were engaged briefly.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link

Was reminded of this because there is a hippie chick who looks quite a bit like Liza at the -20:00 mark of the VU doc #OneThread

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

That must have been just before Liza was engaged to Peter Sellers (she was actually married to Peter Allen throughout this time). Desi Arnaz Jr. was coming off his thing with Patty Duke, when he probably did not father her child, Sean Astin.

Josefa, Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link

Thanks. Saw most of that other stuff earlier in the week but it overflowed my buffer and I couldn’t quite remember any of it.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

No worries, I don’t pretend to understand any of this, I’m just reporting the bits and pieces that occur to me in the moment

Josefa, Thursday, 25 November 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link

Same here. It’s not like there is some Pete Frame figure for this stuff drawing us a diagram.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

Haha, there should be though

Josefa, Thursday, 25 November 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link

Maybe the same person who did that excellent Match Game mapping can step up to the plate.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link

Wait what? Who did this Match Game mapping?

Josefa, Friday, 26 November 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

Match Game

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link

Huh... I pretty much nailed it there.

Josefa, Friday, 26 November 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

Zsa Zsa Gabor and George Sanders. Can you imagine?

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 November 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

^^ said in the voice of Alfred Hitchcock

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 November 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

Somehow reminding me of the (final?) Green Acres episode I recently read about which was a failed pilot featuring Elaine Joyce and Richard Deacon.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 November 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link

xxp and also her sister magda!

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 November 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

... for just over a month!

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 November 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

I had to blink and check if it was April Fool’s Day when I saw that Liza Minnelli was once married to Jack Haley Jr. I guess John Lahr was unavailable.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

That’s a good one, but it has also led me to discover that John Lahr is *currently* married to Connie Booth of ‘Fawlty Towers’ fame

Josefa, Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

!

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 November 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link

Some good detail in the John Lahr Wikipedia article, including that his mother was a former Miss Cincinnati, much the same way Lou Reed’s mother, Toby, had been voted Queen of the Stenographers in her office in 1939. #OneThread

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 November 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link

Wait not just her office but all of NYC. If she had won a year later she would have given Ginger Rogers a special scroll in Grand Central Station at the Stenographer’s Ball.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 November 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link

I knew that Jean-Michel Jarre and Charlotte Rampling were married for awhile, but I didn't know that Jarre was also married to Anne Parillaud and is currently married to Gong Li.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 28 November 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

I think I recently learned and quickly forgot about that, so thanks for posting, when somebody like JBL posted something on Friendbook.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 November 2021 04:04 (two years ago) link

Can't find it now though.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 November 2021 04:09 (two years ago) link

Jean Marsh - co-creator of and played 'Rose' in Upstairs Downstairs. Married to Jon Pertwee from 1955 until their divorce in 1960, and had relationships with Albert Finney, Kenneth Haigh, and Michael Lindsay-Hogg.

Also a candidate for 'the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually still alive'. 87 years old.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 28 November 2021 11:27 (two years ago) link

Cool. Don’t know if I ever saw that Twilight Zone episode she was in.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 November 2021 13:07 (two years ago) link

Not married but Stella Stevens and guitarist Bob Kulick were together from 1983 till his death last year.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 November 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link

About to bust up in here like Kool-Aid Man with Ron Dante and Lana Turner, but her Ron Dante wasn't _the_ Ron Dante.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 November 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link

(xxpost: James! Go watch that ep NOW---one of the best TZs evah, in terms of effective production, casting, and no or minimal DO YOU SEE moralism overloading poignant clarity)
xpost:Stella and Bob reminding me of Les Dudek and---hold please for eventual thread relevance:
He (Les Dudek) had built quite a reputation around the Florida area as a proficient guitar player, having started playing in local bands as a teenager. Those bands were "The United Sounds", "Blue Truth" and "Power". That reputation would place him in the studio with the Allman Brothers Band for the recording of the Brothers & Sisters album.[1] He played guitar harmonies with Dickey Betts on the well-known song "Ramblin' Man" and acoustic guitar on "Jessica".[1][4] In Alan Paul's book, One Way Out: The Inside History of the Allman Brothers Band, Dudek claimed to have written the part in "Jessica" from when it modulated into G then eventually back to A.[5]
...He later collaborated with Cher, Stevie Nicks, and with two other Columbia artists, Mike Finnigan and Jim Krueger, with whom he formed The Dudek Finnigan Krueger Band in 1978. A DFKB album was released by Columbia Records a year later.[1]

Between the years 1979 and 1982, Les and Cher had a personal as well as professional relationship.[6][7] Dudek wrote and performed some of the music for the 1984 movie Mask starring Cher, Sam Elliott, Eric Stoltz, and Laura Dern.From Cher main article:
In 1980, alongside Italian record producer Giorgio Moroder, Cher wrote her last Casablanca disco recording, "Bad Love", for the film Foxes.[109] She formed the rock band Black Rose that year with her then-lover, guitarist Les Dudek. Although Cher was the lead singer, she did not receive top billing because she wanted to create the impression that all band members were equal. Since she was easily recognized when she performed with the band, she developed a punk look by cutting her trademark long hair. Despite appearances on television, the band failed to earn concert dates.[110] Their album Black Rose received unfavorable reviews; Cher told Rolling Stone, "The critics panned us, and they didn't attack the record. They attacked me. It was like, 'How dare Cher sing rock & roll?'"[53]
(They didn't like Allman and Woman much either, seems like.)
While she was with Dudek, Dickey Betts married Cher's assistant, Paulette (can't find her last name, but think it was Coelho? Mother of Duane Betts, who grew up on road w Allman Brothers Band, and is now co-leader of Allman Betts Band.
(Dudek got around quite a bit professionally as well, should write his own book.)

dow, Sunday, 28 November 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link

Late last night, on The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, I saw Felicia Farr as a lonely, somewhat careless/princessy, playin', wanderin' around housewife and stepmother, spied on and gaslighted by weirdo new kid in the neighborhood Bruce Dern--as written, directed and played, a fairly nuanced female character, struggling with personal contradictions and male gazes (incl. that husband, somewhat manipulated by Dern), for this pulp genre, show and especially era.

Recalled seeing her in some other shows, ones I wish we still got on these digital antenna channels, like Naked City and It Takes A Thief. Movies incl. original 3:10 to Yuma and The Venetian Affair.

Also (husbands appear right after this):
Farr's later films include the bawdy Billy Wilder farce Kiss Me, Stupid (1964) with Dean Martin and Ray Walston later star of My Favorite Martian as her husband, a role originally intended for Jack Lemmon; Walter Matthau's daughter-in-law in Kotch (1971, Lemmon's only film as director); the Don Siegel bank-heist caper Charley Varrick (1973) with Matthau; and more than 30 TV appearances on The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, Bonanza, Ben Casey, Burke's Law, and many others.

Personal life
On September 2, 1949, Dines married TV actor Lee Farr,[9] a marriage which produced a daughter, Denise Farr, who later became the wife of actor Don Gordon. Farr's second husband was actor Jack Lemmon; they married in 1962 while Lemmon was filming the comedy Irma La Douce in Paris. They remained married until his death in 2001.[1]

During her marriage to Jack Lemmon, Farr gave birth to a daughter, Courtney, in 1966.[1] She is also the stepmother of Lemmon's son, actor and author Chris Lemmon, from his first marriage.
Yep, "is": she's still with us, age 89, according to wiki.

dow, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

That explains a lot. Remember watching Kiss Me, Stupid with a friend who commented that he thought Ray Walston was playing what should have been the Jack Lemmon role. We had no idea that it had been intended for Lemmon but knew of his history with Wilder and thought it appropriate when we learned that Felicia Farr was his wife.

Forgot that Arlene Dahl (RIP) had been married to Fernardo Lamas and was Lorenzo Lamas's mother.

Duck and Sally Can’t Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link

Joan Crawford and Douglas Fairbanks Jr.

Duck and Sally Can’t Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

Seems like this stuff is hard to keep track of, as I see Josefa first brought up Liza and Desi as well as James MacArthur and Melody Patterson earlier this year and I had no recollection.

Duck and Sally Can’t Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

Geraldine Chaplin was the partner of director Carlos Saura for 12 years until 1979, starring in his films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_and_the_Wolves (1973),https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%ADa_Cuervos (1976),https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisa,_vida_m%C3%ADa (1977), and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_Turns_100 (1979).
...They have a son, Shane Saura Chaplin.

Her second long-term relationship has been with Chilean cinematographer Patricio Castilla, whom she married in 2006, and with whom she has a daughter, Oona, an actress in British and Spanish films.

In 1978, the Chaplin family were the victims of a failed extortion plot by kidnappers who had stolen the body of Charlie Chaplin. Geraldine Chaplin negotiated with the kidnappers, who had also threatened her infant son.[25]

dow, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

Robert Hays (Airplane!) and Cherie Currie (The Runaways)

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link

Richard Mulligan and Joan Hackett.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 December 2021 10:44 (two years ago) link

Not married,and not old time,exactly..

But I was surprised that Eric Clapton and Davina McCall were a longish term thing,back before Davina was 'famous'...

Mark G, Sunday, 12 December 2021 10:45 (two years ago) link

Lovely couple.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 December 2021 10:50 (two years ago) link

Always knew Ida Lupino was awesome, and even got to direct a bunch of movies pretty early on for a gurl, but didn't know she did all this!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_Lupino
Marriage-wise: first was Louis Hayward, "a protege of Noel Coward," later in movies I never hoid of; in 1938,"his profile was raised when he married Ida Lupino," who was 20 and had already been "the British Jean Harlow," and was about to have her breakthrough legit role, in The Light That Failed(1939)...a role she acquired after running into the director's office unannounced, demanding an audition.[12] After this breakthrough performance as a spiteful cockney model who torments Ronald Colman, she began to be taken seriously as a dramatic actress. As a result, her parts improved during the 1940s, and she jokingly referred to herself as "the poor man's Bette Davis", taking the roles that Davis refused.[13][14]Eventually, as a director, described herself as "the poor man's Don Siegel."
To that end, and having divorced Louis, she married and teamed with producer and writer Collier Young, formed an independent company, The Filmakers Inc. [sic], to "produce, direct, and write low-budget, issue-oriented films".[4][19][20]
Of these, The Bigamist(1953), made after their divorce "mined" Young's two-timing Lupino x Joan Fontaine:
The Bigamist is a 1953 American drama film noir directed by Ida Lupino starring Joan Fontaine, Ida Lupino, Edmund Gwenn and Edmond O'Brien. Producer/Screenwriter Collier Young was married to Fontaine at the time and had previously been married to Lupino. The Bigamist has been cited as the first American feature film in which the female star of a film directed herself.[1]

The film is in the public domain.
Then she married ol' Howard Duff (wiki claims this saved him from the blacklist), much later in Altman's A Wedding and lots of other stuff, esp. cop show leading roles, but mainly of interest to me, if at all, because co-starred w Lupino in four films worth mentioning: (Michael Gordon's) Woman in Hiding(1950), Don Siegel's Private Hell 36 (1954); Lewis Seiler's Women's Prison (1955), and Fritz Lang's While the City Sleeps (1956)/
Also, Mr. Adams and Eve is an American situation comedy television series about a married couple who are both movie stars. It stars Howard Duff and Ida Lupino and aired on CBS from January 4, 1957, to July 8, 1958.[1][2][3]The plots of many episodes of Mr. Adams and Eve were based on actual events Lupino and Duff had experienced during their acting careers, albeit exaggerated for comic effect.[2][/I} She directed some eps, and the characters were "created by"---Collier Young, also Exec Producer. [i]Duff and Lupino also co-starred as themselves in 1959 in one of the 13 one-hour installments of The Lucy–Desi Comedy Hour and an episode of The Dinah Shore Chevy Show in 1960. Divorced in '83, by far her longest hitch.

dow, Monday, 13 December 2021 05:04 (two years ago) link

She was from a very interesting family too.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Monday, 13 December 2021 11:19 (two years ago) link

What’s with the sic up there?

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 December 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link

Oh, one ‘m’

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 December 2021 11:40 (two years ago) link

The Bigamist is one of my favourite films, an interesting exploration of the nuclear family and gender roles, even without the real-life backdrop

abcfsk, Monday, 13 December 2021 11:50 (two years ago) link

Also a triumphant turn in Food of the Gods. (I kid, of course. We really need a thread for "bedrock Hollywood actors slumming in crap b-movies at the tail end of their careers".)

henry s, Monday, 13 December 2021 13:31 (two years ago) link

EXPLAIN THE SWARM THEN

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 13 December 2021 13:33 (two years ago) link

Well, there were these bees...

Mark G, Monday, 13 December 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

Michael Caine needed a new pool.

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 December 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

And he wasn't going to let a little bit of bee excrement stand in the way.

Santa’s Got a Brand New Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 December 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link


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