Bob Dylan-negro-blues-bossa-nova-type material while the Velvet Underground blasted the room with high-decibel sounds.” AKA what shrinks used to call BREAKTHROUGH--thanks James! And thanks, Seymour KRIM!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Krim
― dow, Sunday, 28 November 2021 05:11 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3WMbxheyaQ
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 November 2021 06:29 (two years ago) link
Just read this whole thread off the back of watching the doc - excellent use of a Sunday fyi. Now diving into all the live material which somehow I mostly haven't listened to.
VUare Bizarro World Beatles
Yes! Underrated/band-defining drummer; career trajectory converging to dashed-off stories about Sweet Loretta Jane, Lonesome Cowboy Bill, Rocky Raccoon, Sweet Jane, etc; person called John. Basically the same band.
― Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Sunday, 6 February 2022 22:42 (two years ago) link
Thought the doc did a great job of illustrating the context for the band: how these people found themselves in this place at this time, making this music. Less good at what happened once they were doing actual band stuff imo.
― Vangelis fleadh (seandalai), Sunday, 6 February 2022 22:43 (two years ago) link
xp definitely give a listen to "Sweet Sister Ray", imo a key piece of history that remains unreleased:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaOyQbDTKs
― bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Sunday, 6 February 2022 22:48 (two years ago) link
I thought it was on the big White Light/ White Heat box set?
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 7 February 2022 03:59 (two years ago) link
no, the La Cave version is the one people wanthttps://pitchfork.com/thepitch/309-invisible-hits-the-velvet-undergrounds-elusive-sweet-sister-ray/
― StanM, Monday, 7 February 2022 04:41 (two years ago) link
it would have been 100% less-marketable as a band doc, but would have been cool if the movie had been all about the buildup to VU and ended with the release of the 1st album
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 7 February 2022 14:07 (two years ago) link
Yes indeed.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 February 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link
There are a few rock biographies like that. Re-make/Re-model: Becoming Roxy Music by Michael Bracewell has lots of information about the band members' artistic and cultural environments as young men (and about 5 pages on Bryan Ferry's hairdresser) but ends with the recording of the first album. In Joe Jackson's memoir, he gets to 1978 about 15 pages from the end of the book.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 7 February 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link
Feel like there is a thing in any kind of biography of the Before and the After. The Before is the kind of interesting part of how the person forms their identity, the After is all the "And then I wrote" etc. Anthony Burgess was kind enough to split his autobiography into two volumes along that fault line.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 February 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link
not that you could have done a miniseries but the whole trajectory of the members lives is so fascinating for the superfan, so unlike Roxy or Joe Jackson settling into steady and comfortable careers; Lit PhDd, Wal-mart and Tea Party rally, methadone goth, midwifing "Hallelujah" to singing competitions, etc.
― bendy, Monday, 7 February 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link
Heh
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 February 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link
you forgot "tugboat captain"!
― bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Monday, 7 February 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
Ferryboat Sterl.
― Bastards of Fish (Tom D.), Monday, 7 February 2022 16:42 (two years ago) link
And that’s the short and long of it
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 February 2022 16:45 (two years ago) link
"Sweet Sister Ray" is a groovy jam, but I guess I don't really don't hear the magick that others seem to hear in it...
― False Pretenses Lad (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-new-york-earth-room-new-york-new-york
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 March 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link
What’s the link? Is that the End of Cole Ave venue?
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 6 March 2022 20:07 (two years ago) link
No. Walter De Maria was the drummer for The Primitives.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 March 2022 20:10 (two years ago) link
The Velvet Ground
― Josefa, Sunday, 6 March 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link
They're gonna tell you that everything is just dirt.
― city worker, Sunday, 6 March 2022 20:20 (two years ago) link
Ha, exactly.
― Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 March 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link
xxxp oh! I was looking for Maclise or Powers and concluded it must be the venue itself
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 6 March 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link
"worth a million dollars" lol
― Mark G, Monday, 7 March 2022 07:18 (two years ago) link
You're just dirtYou're just dirtThe only word for you is dirtThat's the only word that hurt, you're just dirtThat's all you're worth - cheap, cheap dirtYou know they call it cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, uptown dirt
Not so cheap, actually.
― nickn, Monday, 7 March 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link
Ha, was thinking of that one too.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 March 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link
Gearhead tells all:The Kent Copa that Sterling and Lou were playing was from the 1964–’66 range, since theirs had the more angular, rectangle-shaped pickups. These were low-output pickups with a strong DC resistance rating, but they were rather gnarly with a hint of overdrive, even at calm control settings. The real magic happens when the Copa is paired with a raunchy amp (à la the Danelectro-made Silvertone 1484) and a primitive fuzz like the early Vox Tone Bender.
Two other quirks to note: The bridge was a non-adjustable plastic job that did not help with intonation. So, if your guitar was off from day one, it would be off forever. Second, the tremolo on the Kent Copa is actually very good! The spring is recessed into the body and the darn unit just works amazingly and has a great feel.https://www.premierguitar.com/pro-advice/wizard-of-odd/kent-copa-guitar
― dow, Saturday, 12 March 2022 02:38 (two years ago) link
!!!! don't think this was posted before?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVxkWnwcFYw
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:16 (two years ago) link
News to me, thanks.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link
wow!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:25 (two years ago) link
I think it's in the documentary?
― Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link
Guess I must have been focusing on the wrong corner of the split screen.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link
I don't know if it had audio though.
― Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link
I was about to say it sounds and looks like Moe wasn't there and that is indeed the case:
"Candy Says" live at the Paramount Theatre, Springfield MA, April 17, 1970
Video shot by Steve Nelson on monochrome soundless videotape. The audio was captured separately by unknown source
The Velvet's performed this night as a three piece (Lou, Sterling, and Doug) Moe had just gone on maternity leave
― Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
Wow that looks like a transmission that slipped out of the ether
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link
Right, exactly. It’s kind of a triptych version of a Warhol Screen Test.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:45 (two years ago) link
She went on maternity leave but they still set her drums up? Or maybe they belonged to the opening or closing band?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 00:33 (two years ago) link
Most likely. The Tots or The Sundowners or whoever it was.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 00:37 (two years ago) link
audio for the whole show is here: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/615656049044848640/the-velvet-underground-paramount-theater
doug plays drums on a few tracks.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 02:15 (two years ago) link
I was six days old!
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 02:45 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I remember it from the documentary.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 08:49 (two years ago) link
One of those daft Facebook articles mentioned The Muppets doing the Velvet Underground on one of their "number" songs on Sesame Street or some such.
Did you remember this?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link
"Shiny, shiny, shiny number seven ..."
― nickn, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link
Nope, not found it..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 10:00 (two years ago) link
I'd've thought it was a wind up somewhere along the way either something misunderstood by the writer or a joke on their part. Would be very surprised to find they were overground enough to register in that way.
THough maybe it was a windup on the part of a hip production team. Some kind of irony in knowing the source vs the usage and thinkikng that the audience would never make the connection.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 10:04 (two years ago) link
I'm assuming it would be a more recent episode, than back in 1968 or whenever...
― Mark G, Thursday, 12 May 2022 20:53 (two years ago) link
.. obviously The Muppets weren't around in 1968, don't write in ..
They were around then, but were more into the Beatles...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4KUrntHu60
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 May 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link